Dublin GAA Discussion Thread MOD WARNING POST #2944

Jaden

Small, McCarthy, McMahon, Rock.

Middle Class?

Maybe if you renamed it to Glasnevin North Kickhams.....

Paulzx

clint_silver wrote: »

Im being picked up wrong here. Ive my award 2 course. Done it myself cos my club couldnt afford it. Dont care, happy to do it, not giving out for a second.
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I'm in a large club in Dublin. I had to pay for my own courses. Constant fundraising, constant begging for money. When you have large numbers of juveniles there's always a shortage of money. Dublin clubs are no different to rural clubs in this respect.

Large numbers involve requirement for increased playing facilities, gear and admin costs. Just because we're a large club in Dublin doesn't mean we don't have money problems

DoctaDee

Jaden wrote: »

Small, McCarthy, McMahon, Rock.

Middle Class?

Maybe if you renamed it to Glasnevin North Kickhams.....

I don't know John Small, but there was a world of a difference in the upbringing of the other 3.

I remember as a young fella being told, usually by aul wans pitch side to fakoff back to the flats - the fact that I can only remember 1-2 lads living there would've been lost in any attempt to respond.

Bono lived down the road from me .. He's the only ****er that sought to portray his upbringing as coming from a warzone, Kickhams draws from all strands of society

Dyr

Jaden wrote: »

Small, McCarthy, McMahon, Rock.

Middle Class?

Maybe if you renamed it to Glasnevin North Kickhams.....

Turnapin Kickhams

DoctaDee

Bambi wrote: »

Turnapin Kickhams

Places you never heard of growing up ... Came home from Croker on Sunday thru Dubber Cross and out by the Finglas Castle - young lad had a hard time believing that it was nothing but farmers fields. Never mind the Kickhams set up who would've thought there'd be a golf course in Ballymun !

Realt Dearg Sec

DoctaDee wrote: »

Places you never heard of growing up ... Came home from Croker on Sunday thru Dubber Cross and out by the Finglas Castle - young lad had a hard time believing that it was nothing but farmers fields. Never mind the Kickhams set up who would've thought there'd be a golf course in Ballymun !

It's probably the most surprising thing I learned hurling in Dublin, was just how rural some of the clubs are. Like playing against Wild Geese up in Oldtown is pretty much the same as playing a rural village team down home, with the club colours up outside the pubs and an actual water pump coloured black and amber (they even hurl more like country teams. If you don't know what I mean, you are probably from closer to town!). St Maur's as well was a funny one, fields and fields of cabbage around the pitch, their accent is like a very country version of the Dub accent, and even though it was Junior C they had posters up in town telling people about the fixture. Not at all what you would expect in Dublin.

ProudDUB

Realt, the farm land north of the airport, is some of the best in the country. North Co Dublin market gardening provides most of the Dublin supermarkets with their produce. It's a very lucrative business, especially for the larger, family run farm businesses like Keogh's & Keelings, so the land is unlikely to ever be bulldozed for housing or development. A lot of people are very surprised at how rural north county Dublin is. Growing up, I had cousins in Rolestown. Their lifestyles were incredibly different from mine, even though we were only a 10 minute drive away from each other.

DoctaDee wrote: »

Yeah very much so, funny you should mention Isles - back in the day when the only life in south side football was Thomas Davis there was a stretch of county finals when Isles played the toffs from Kilmacud and the toffs from Malahide.

The game changed late 90" s with the middle class areas being represented predominantly in county finals and forever since. Jaysis I remember the times we'd go down to mobhi road to put manners on the Glasnevin lot, then in the space of a couple of years they were tearing us a new one everytime we played.

Once fellas started pronouncing their "th" s" on the field the face of Dublin GAA had changed forever ..

I am mentally preparing myself for the day when I rock up to Croke Park & see a hipster man bun on one of our lads. One of Meath dandies was sporting one. So it's only a matter of time.....I weep for the future...

DoctaDee

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

It's probably the most surprising thing I learned hurling in Dublin, was just how rural some of the clubs are. Like playing against Wild Geese up in Oldtown is pretty much the same as playing a rural village team down home, with the club colours up outside the pubs and an actual water pump coloured black and amber (they even hurl more like country teams. If you don't know what I mean, you are probably from closer to town!). St Maur's as well was a funny one, fields and fields of cabbage around the pitch, their accent is like a very country version of the Dub accent, and even though it was Junior C they had posters up in town telling people about the fixture. Not at all what you would expect in Dublin.

ProudDUB wrote: »

Realt, the farm land north of the airport, is some of the best in the country. North Co Dublin market gardening provides most of the Dublin supermarkets with their produce. It's a very lucrative business, especially for the larger, family run farm businesses like Keogh's & Keelings, so the land is unlikely to be ever bulldozed for housing or development. A lot of people are very surprised at how rural north county Dublin is. Growing up, I had cousins in Rolestown & their lifestyles were incredibly different from mine, even though we were only a 10 minute drive away from each other.........

I've been out in da boonies 15 years now and it's very much a rural/parochial attitude to life and sport in particular. Early morning training so as the lads can get to the farmwork, nearly all the teams field 50% of players related in some way to one another etc.

There's people in da bosses village still referred to as blow ins having lived there 30 odd years - feudal football still exists, where the new generation settle old scores .. it's like any rural county in Ireland where the pride and honour of playing with the parish lasts long after the gates close on the career.

DoctaDee

ProudDUB wrote: »

.................I am mentally preparing myself for the day when I rock up to Croke Park & see a hipster man bun on one of our lads. One of Meath dandies was sporting one. So it's only a matter of time.....I weep for the future...

Didn't Seanie Murray grace the hallowed turf a few years back with said man bun ? .. it's like white football boots in my day .. you'd better be one hell of a player to wear them !!

Edit - very sloppy Seanie, very sloppy

ProudDUB

Christ, the rot has already set in ! :eek:

I remember earning extra pocket money with my cousins, picking strawberries at the fruit farms in Lispopple. I was considered 'soft' because I couldn't bend down for more than 30 minutes, without whinging about my back. So I was banished to pick the raspberries instead. Have disliked strawberries - and anyone from Wexford - ever since !

Bonniedog

DoctaDee wrote: »

Didn't Seanie Murray grace the hallowed turf a few years back with said man bun ? .. it's like white football boots in my day .. you'd better be one hell of a player to wear them !!

Edit - very sloppy Seanie, very sloppy

He was physics Phd and claimed never to have watched TV or know anything about other teams!

I would have liked him to have stayed.

I'd imagine once Skerries heard that one of their players had stayed in school after they were 14, they had enough .... I think they have a library now..... Peppa Pig DVDs mostly

Jaden

Bonniedog wrote: »

I'd imagine once Skerries heard that one of their players had stayed in school after they were 14, they had enough .... I think they have a library now..... Peppa Pig DVDs mostly

I heard they even have books - but both of them are already coloured in.

ProudDUB

When Des Cahill was doing MC at the 2011 homecoming ceremony in Merrion Sq, he was slagging off some of the players for giving out about being dragged out to culchie land afterwards. Poor aul Bryan, I bet he gets some slagging.

LeoB

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

It's probably the most surprising thing I learned hurling in Dublin, was just how rural some of the clubs are. Like playing against Wild Geese up in Oldtown is pretty much the same as playing a rural village team down home, with the club colours up outside the pubs and an actual water pump coloured black and amber (they even hurl more like country teams. If you don't know what I mean, you are probably from closer to town!). St Maur's as well was a funny one, fields and fields of cabbage around the pitch, their accent is like a very country version of the Dub accent, and even though it was Junior C they had posters up in town telling people about the fixture. Not at all what you would expect in Dublin.

North Dublin, the bread basket of Dublin and Ireland for many years. I remember a few Dublin lads getting out of a car one day and stunned to see the amount of cabbage and spuds in fields. Was sort of funny and a few heads of cabbage went home with him also. Places like Oltown, Garristown, Naul are still very rural, and long may it last. You could be anywhere down the country until you see the Dublin flags . A lot of the other towns are now totally different to years ago but got swamped during the building booms of 90s and 00s. Better roads mean it is only 25 minutes to city centre now, (outside peaktimes)!!
I was suRprised one day in a shop in Dublin when the shopkeeper picked my accent as being from Rush/Lusk area.

Thankfully a lot of the nasty tribal s**t is gone from the games out here. Still can be a bit tough but changed times now from 70s 80s and 90s.

As for the library in Skerries! The 2 colouring books they have are in black and white.;)

DoctaDee

ProudDUB wrote: »

...... he was slagging off some of the players for giving out about being dragged out to culchie land afterwards. Poor aul Bryan, I bet he gets some slagging.

He'd get more of a slagging for his faux Dub accent

LeoB wrote: »

.............Thankfully a lot of the nasty tribal s**t is gone from the games out here. Still can be a bit tough but changed times now from 70s 80s and 90s.

As for the library in Skerries! The 2 colouring books they have are in black and white.;)

I think familiarity bred contempt, back in the day didn't they have a Fingal league where they got to knock 7 bells out of one another on a regular basis ?
Nowdays the fortunes of the clubs have gone in different directions - O'Dwyers falling thru the floor, Garristown pegged out of league last year for failing to field, then the relative successes of Man O'War, Naul & Boughal in Inter football, with Pats, Maurs and Skerries in the Senior. there's rare an occasion now when they're pitted against one another.

Bonniedog

Margarets and Isles used to be savage affairs. A vestige of time when both were villages. Hardly notice Margarets even exists as a separate entity now, but club still going well I think.

Starlights were another rum lot. Played opposite the airport, hence the name I assume, and were made up of a few different families. Were thrown out of junior championships at least once.

Dyr

Bonniedog wrote: »

Margarets and Isles used to be savage affairs. A vestige of time when both were villages. Hardly notice Margarets even exists as a separate entity now, but club still going well I think.

Starlights were another rum lot. Played opposite the airport, hence the name I assume, and were made up of a few different families. Were thrown out of junior championships at least once.

I've been intrigued by Starlights, mainly because I never heard tiddlyboo about them growing up even though they're fairly close by

DoctaDee

Aren't Starlights next door to Ballymun in Turnapin ? ... have to say that was the 1st time they came on my radar too

Tombo2001

Godge wrote: »

You see the county game as the pinnacle, but it is the club and the kids playing the game that is most important.

Dublin have poured money into the grassroots, into the clubs.

The county board don't pay the manager. The team fund-raise for their holiday.

If Mayo spent less on training weeks in London and more on the grassroots, they might have won an All-Ireland by now.

I think that's a bit unfair. The grassroots in Mayo is very strong. Dublin clubs have catchment areas of tens of thousands each; can have 5 or 6 teams per year at underage. Don't forget also that Dublin clubs are in a position to charge more for membership - look at the fees at some of the bigger Dublin clubs compared to country clubs. More revenues = more to invest.

Bonniedog

DoctaDee wrote: »

Aren't Starlights next door to Ballymun in Turnapin ? ... have to say that was the 1st time they came on my radar too

Their pitch is around the corner from Kickhams, on the road facing airport, not far from the airport social club.


They are in Division 9 junior and Junior E championship this season. Still wouldn't fancy playing them I have to say! Only thing I recall is box in the head before the match and that there were about 6 brother from one family who had a strange surname. Fair play to them for surviving.

DoctaDee

Ah yeah great to see a team survive especially with the pulling power of BK - Setanta are much the same. I actually met a lad a few weeks back when we were swapping war stories who'd played with Starlights. I think it's great that clubs survive in the lower levels purely on the loyalty that fellas would have to them .. Rosmini and Commercials also spring to mind

Bonniedog

Commercials would be strong enough now. Have a few adults teams, camogie and under age hurling at all ages. Rathcoole is big catchment area, and was bit of GAA no mans land until Commericals started taking kids. Can't imagine many Rathcoole people ventured up to Saggart to play for Marys!

Are Rosmini still going? Haven't heard of them for years.

DoctaDee

Bonniedog wrote: »

....Are Rosmini still going? Haven't heard of them for years.

I was coming in the Drumcondra Road a while back and stuck in traffic I noticed there was a game on opposite the Skylon, next to Home Farm. I recognised Scoil Ui straight away (as ya do :rolleyes:) but for the life of me the red and black stripes wouldn't register.. had an ah yeah moment a few hours later then they were out in our place within a month at the tail end of last year .. funny how things click ..

Bonniedog

DoctaDee wrote: »

I was coming in the Drumcondra Road a while back and stuck in traffic I noticed there was a game on opposite the Skylon, next to Home Farm. I recognised Scoil Ui straight away (as ya do :rolleyes:) but for the life of me the red and black stripes wouldn't register.. had an ah yeah moment a few hours later then they were out in our place within a month at the tail end of last year .. funny how things click ..

That's good to hear. Do you remember when Down supporters stole their club flag on the way to Croke Park years ago! Probably after leaving said hotel full of porter.

Dyr

DoctaDee wrote: »

Ah yeah great to see a team survive especially with the pulling power of BK - Setanta are much the same.

You'd see more hurls than Kickhams jerseys out in the mun now...and not business hurls either

There's a fair few kids of eastern european parents down where I am, two of the younger lads keep kicking a ball around the road outside my place, I'll put up with them hopping it off the front door a couple of times before I tell them f**k off out of it

Anyway a few months back something hops off the door louder than normal and I'm go "ffs" and have a look out the window ready to run them. The two kids have traded the football for hurls and are pucking a sliotar around. I'm like "...." then I draw the blinds and make meself a cuppa

Realt Dearg Sec

Bambi wrote: »

You'd see more hurls than Kickhams jerseys out in the mun now...and not business hurls either

There's a fair few kids of eastern european parents down where I am, two of the younger lads keep kicking a ball around the road outside my place, I'll put up with them hopping it off the front door a couple of times before I tell them f**k off out of it

Anyway a few months back something hops off the door louder than normal and I'm go "ffs" and have a look out the window ready to run them. The two kids have traded the football for hurls and are pucking a sliotar around. I'm like "...." then I draw the blinds and make meself a cuppa

In Kilkenny it was always felt locally that a few broken windows over the years is the price we can all pay to the cause. When those lads are playing for Dublin you can take your credit!

DoctaDee

A few years back - probably after we won NHL in 2011 the kids get me a hurl and sliotar for fathers day. We're down the green pucking around when all of a sudden there's a dozen young fellas with hurls looking to join in - so we end up having an ad hoc session showing them the pick up, handpass etc

A few days later there's a knock on the door with a heap of young fellas asking "is yer Da coming out to play ?" .. a modern day pied piper :rolleyes:

corny

O'Connell and Dotsy dropped? I hope Dotsy is injured because i can't for the life of me work out how Cunningham picked him out as the weak link in the forwards.

Maguire back in goal. Wonder how he'll get on walking the tight rope.

JRant

corny wrote: »

O'Connell and Dotsy dropped? I hope Dotsy is injured because i can't for the life of me work out how Cunningham picked him out as the weak link in the forwards.

Maguire back in goal. Wonder how he'll get on walking the tight rope.

That team wouldn't inspire a lot of confidence.

Weak enough midfield pairing.

Dotsy getting the line makes little sense. O'Dwyer is full of endeavour but not much else.

Unless the tactics change and Trollier and Mark start getting decent service in to them I think we will struggle. The only positive is that Cork are just as all over the place as we are.

Kavrocks

Since the draw was done I haven't been confident of us winning, if that's the starting team I'd be very wary still. Schutte finished purely with Cuala in Leinster and his form has been dire with Dublin all year. This must be Paul Ryan's 2nd or 3rd start all year too? Dotsy was poor against Kilkenny but then everybody was I'd still prefer him in. I haven't thought O'Connell has played well since the league but at least he'll get his head up and get into good positions. Daire will just put his head down and run into trouble or hit an awful pass.