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tomaussie · 03-01-2015 01:47AM

All I'm getting from those posts are the brandy. And beer. And wine. And brandy.

naughto · 03-01-2015 12:45PM

Can't believe that lad in the link you posted PC is in college the blog is like a 12 yrs would read,he got the shift
What will happen if he ever gets the ride
Edit its gone I see a well

Peintre Celebre · 06-01-2015 02:34PM

naughto wrote: »

Can't believe that lad in the link you posted PC is in college the blog is like a 12 yrs would read,he got the shift
What will happen if he ever gets the ride
Edit its gone I see a well

Unbelievable really. Talk about a moron

Anyone else think Hayley Turner has been riding terribly last few months

Luap · 06-01-2015 08:35PM

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Unbelievable really. Talk about a moron

Anyone else think Hayley Turner has been riding terribly last few months

Had been thinking that too, but does she get that many rides?

Shemale · 06-01-2015 11:48PM

Shemale · 09-01-2015 06:40PM

Luap wrote: »

Had been thinking that too, but does she get that many rides?

Not as many as she expected following Spencers decision not to retire.

Peintre Celebre · 09-01-2015 07:20PM

Bulling I missed the 10/1 Ardkilly Witness tomorrow he looked a right bet at that price, Will go off half that, letting it run as a result

BumperD · 10-01-2015 04:32PM

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Bulling I missed the 10/1 Ardkilly Witness tomorrow he looked a right bet at that price, Will go off half that, letting it run as a result

Good spot.

Peintre Celebre · 10-01-2015 09:09PM

BumperD wrote: »

Good spot.

Thanks shame I missed it. There'll be more hopefully

tomaussie · 11-01-2015 07:59AM

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Thanks shame I missed it. There'll be more hopefully

Total respect PC. That is some restraint you have. Hope you're not too down about missing out.

That's a few recent winners you've not backed and I seen your bit in the 'how do you pick a winner' thread and you do stick to your guns. I hope you get the long term benefit.

It's making me realise I'm a bookmakers wet dream. I've no discipline and the more I win the bigger my stake gets. I've always backed EW but now I'm thinking twice. In fact I'm thinking twice about my whole approach.

Peintre Celebre · 11-01-2015 09:52PM

Thanks Tom. I try to stick to my guns alright. I always have a minimum price in mind that I'll take and I won't budge on that. If you do you're making excuses and exceptions. These traits could easily enter the rest of your betting. Value is everything, I don't get too down because there'll always be more, though it's most frustrating when you miss a price that you would have taken, not so much if it was never the price you wanted.

jimjamcos · 11-01-2015 10:33PM

FairPlay PC, that's a serious approach to have. You must really minimise your losses and maximise your wins with it. Do you just back straight win always?

Peintre Celebre · 11-01-2015 10:54PM

Yeah straight win. I do question it at times like a few weeks ago I'd four seconds in a row all backed to win, prices were 2 x 10/1 (one beaten a nose) 20/1 and 8/1. That said it maximises your winnings when they do land and obviously you're not losing as much when they are unplaced.

unitedrover · 11-01-2015 11:01PM

PC, Another question for you. How do you actually price up a horse yourself and know that you have value? Are you like an amateur bookmaker?

jimjamcos · 11-01-2015 11:03PM

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Yeah straight win. I do question it at times like a few weeks ago I'd four seconds in a row all backed to win, prices were 2 x 10/1 (one beaten a nose) 20/1 and 8/1. That said it maximises your winnings when they do land and obviously you're not losing as much when they are unplaced.

I think it's the best method tbh, especially given that the majority of your picks are in handicaps, when a horse is either out to win or waiting for another day. Keep up the good work anyway

tomaussie · 13-01-2015 12:49AM

Guys. I'm not being lazy and some may know my 3G is not fantastic. I have looked through several threads but can't find what I'm looking for.

I read a post recently about Ruby giving a horse an easy ride to finish 4th to qualify for a race at Cheltenham.

Ring any bells ?

NaiveMelodies · 13-01-2015 12:51AM

tomaussie wrote: »

Guys. I'm not being lazy and some may know my 3G is not fantastic. I have looked through several threads but can't find what I'm looking for.

I read a post recently about Ruby giving a horse an easy ride to finish 4th to qualify for a race at Cheltenham.

Ring any bells ?

Dara Tango in the Pertemps trial at Leopardstown.

tomaussie · 13-01-2015 01:08AM

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

Dara Tango in the Pertemps trial at Leopardstown.

Thank you very much kind sir.

Peintre Celebre · 17-01-2015 07:17PM

Question. Is there such a thing as a good losing bet?

And is there such a thing as a bad winning bet

BumperD · 17-01-2015 08:15PM

If you back something at value odds (which you do) and it loses, thats a good losing bet.

If you back a horse odds on when its should be 9/4 & its scrapes home by a head, thats a bad winning bet imo as you took an almighty risk backing it in the first place.

Probably opening pandora's box again on value betting which has been flogged to death.

jimjamcos · 17-01-2015 08:41PM

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Question. Is there such a thing as a good losing bet?

And is there such a thing as a bad winning bet

I'd consider any bet when you break your own rules, show indiscipline, as a bad bet, regardless of result. In the long run.

BumperD · 17-01-2015 08:42PM

Thats actually a far better response.

mr.jingle · 17-01-2015 09:39PM

jimjamcos wrote: »

I'd consider any bet when you break your own rules, show indiscipline, as a bad bet, regardless of result. In the long run.

Brilliantly put

sdoc13 · 17-01-2015 09:49PM

jimjamcos wrote: »

I'd consider any bet when you break your own rules, show indiscipline, as a bad bet, regardless of result. In the long run.

And my god there have been many, many, many of those. :pac:

Peintre Celebre · 19-01-2015 12:17AM

Theystes Thursday. One of my favorite races of the year yet it invokes one of my worst memories. Couldn't decide between Jadanli and possibly the slowest horse in the world Tarquinius both huge odds. Can anyone guess the outcome

Peintre Celebre · 19-01-2015 12:22AM

Goodness me anyone backing Djakadam 3/1 ante post for this please call your nearest HSE mental health unit I beg you

BumperD · 19-01-2015 01:04AM

Your Heany nearly came in today after being a nr at Christmas, were you on?

Peintre Celebre · 19-01-2015 01:07AM

BumperD wrote: »

Your Heany nearly came in today after being a nr at Christmas, were you on?

No I was looking at betfair earlier he went off 48, was thinking there was no way he was a 50 shot at the time. Glad I didn't I'd have been sick I think he traded sub 4/1. 11 for a place was big in hindsight. He should win a decent handicap at some stage I'm just not sure of his trip. Hopefully isn't hit too hard

BumperD · 19-01-2015 01:16AM

Is was a great spot, you must hours studying those handicappers. I backed Draco today, he got badly hampered on the home turn when about to launch his run which definitely cost him a place imo, he has a big handicap in him I reckon. Was looking at Heany when you put him up at Christmas and was going to hit him but went with Draco. I think I will just follow you in future with handicappers as I'm no good with those races :pac:

Peintre Celebre · 19-01-2015 01:27AM

BumperD wrote: »

Is was a great spot, you must hours studying those handicappers. I backed Draco today, he got badly hampered on the home turn when about to launch his run which definitely cost him a place imo, he has a big handicap in him I reckon. Was looking at Heany when you put him up at Christmas and was going to hit him but went with Draco. I think I will just follow you in future with handicappers as I'm no good with those races :pac:

It depends I wouldn't necessarily spend too long on a single race. I often find it easy enough to eliminate a lot of the field even some of the more fancied ones. I had my eye on him for a long time I can't quite remember when, think it was when he caught the eye in the Irish National last year, the hardest part is knowing when to back and when not to when following one. Nothing more frustrating than having one win on you when you're waiting one more run.

Secret Witness one I'll be hitting soon but not entered anywhere yet but should soon. Yard finally had a winner after five months and will be a nice price

In fairness regarding Draco it is extremely hard to back any of JP's. Some of those Irish handicap hurdles are extremely difficult. Think the chases may not be as bad but still tricky. Theyestes doesn't necessarily look as competitive as it may appear. Can't get away from Toon River at a price but probably won't back, think he wont see it out in that ground it could be a proper slog

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