IMRA Season 2014

nerraw1111

Hot off the presses. IMRA Winter League

Sun Jan 19 12:00 PM Howth Winter 201m climb 5km
Sun Feb 2 11:00 AM Ticknock Winter 417m 10km
Sun Feb 16 11:00 AM Trooperstown Hill 380m 11km
Sat Mar 1 12:00 PM Annacurra 480m 11km
Sat Mar 8 11:00 AM Maulin Winter League Route 538m 8km

Wicklow Way ultra/trail March 22nd.

axe2grind

What's with the different start times?

Enduro

They're the start times that were used in previous incarnations of those races. 11:00 because the race doesn't take everyone's full day. The later starts for howth because its the first and likely to take more time getting registrations done, and for Annacurra because it is further to travel for most people (And mya haver something to do with post-race facilities too, but I'm very hazy about that one), all IIRC.

johnruns

Havnt done Annacura or the WW Trail before so looking forward to giving those two a good bash next year:):)

axe2grind

Enduro wrote: »

They're the start times that were used in previous incarnations of those races. 11:00 because the race doesn't take everyone's full day. The later starts for howth because its the first and likely to take more time getting registrations done, and for Annacurra because it is further to travel for most people (And mya haver something to do with post-race facilities too, but I'm very hazy about that one), all IIRC.

While the above has logic, for the ordinary punter like me, a consistent start time across the series is preferable

Kurt Godel

axe2grind wrote: »

While the above has logic, for the ordinary punter like me, a consistent start time across the series is preferable

Balls to that; consistency has no place in IMRA. A cold icy feeling when you register and look up at the mountain ahead, a brilliant sense of immediacy as you struggle against walking in the race, a wonderful sense of cameraderie as you discuss war wounds with good people afterwards.

Consistency is for the other 6 days of the week;)

nerraw1111

No matter what time of day the race starts at, you're always going to tell yourself: "it's too early for this sh1t" on the first climb.

axe2grind

Kurt Godel wrote: »

Balls to that; consistency has no place in IMRA. A cold icy feeling when you register and look up at the mountain ahead, a brilliant sense of immediacy as you struggle against walking in the race, a wonderful sense of cameraderie as you discuss war wounds with good people afterwards.

Consistency is for the other 6 days of the week;)

And yet the 13 races in the summer league all have the same start time...seems consistent to me

The rest still applies even if all the races start at 11am...or pm for nerraw...or would that be too late

Slogger Jogger

axe2grind wrote: »

And yet the 13 races in the summer league all have the same start time...seems consistent to me

The rest still applies even if all the races start at 11am...or pm for nerraw...or would that be too late

You are not comparing like with like. With the Winter League some are susceptable to local arrangements and weekend travel logistics, so a 12 noon start in Annacurra (which I am directing) works better. If you want to standardise a start time you are welcome to come forward and direct a race which meets your consistent standards

Peterx

High noon Mick, high noon.
sounds better

Peterx

axe2grind wrote: »

While the above has logic, for the ordinary punter like me, a consistent start time across the series is preferable

Consistently having tea, soup and cake after the winter races would be preferable for this punter. Consistently giving most of the spot prizes to the volunteers would be good too.
In the grand scheme of things tis a minor matter though.

Peterx

And on a hopefully related note to the 2014 IMRA season may I extend huge congratulations to Sarah Mulligan on her call-up to the European Cross Country Champs on Sunday.
Sarah was a team bronze medallist at the Hill-running in the Summer just gone, all the best for a similar performance on Sunday!

axe2grind

Slogger Jogger wrote: »

If you want to standardise a start time you are welcome to come forward and direct a race which meets your consistent standards

But I would also have to get the other race directors to agree....

I didn't mention looking for other conistencies

My raising of the issue (which I agree is a minor matter) was simply to avoid confusion and the possibility of someone turning up late for an 11am race with the previous one being high noon!

But I'm probably doing a disservice to the intelligence and time keeping of IMRA attendees.

No point in per longing this matter....my last word on it

michael thomas

What distance is involved in the wicklow way ultra/trail run? thanks

Slogger Jogger

michael thomas wrote: »

What distance is involved in the wicklow way ultra/trail run? thanks

25k for the trail. 50k for the ultra (as its out and back on the same course).

nerraw1111

Anyone have any idea what the ground is likely to be like on the Djouce -War hill-Tonduff-Maulin loop? Particularly from Djouce to War Hill and on to Tonduff?

Rogue Runner

nerraw1111 wrote: »

Anyone have any idea what the ground is likely to be like on the Djouce -War hill-Tonduff-Maulin loop? Particularly from Djouce to War Hill and on to Tonduff?

Djouce to War Hill is soggy at best. As for the rest; wet in patches but in all very manageable.

T runner

For those interested, john lenihan will be doing an i terview on radio kerry between 9 and 11 tomorrow morning, discussing his 8 favourite races with studio and phone in guests. Ill be discussing his 2005 21st anniversary warriors run victory, when he returned 17 years after his last victory for a dominant win. Posneg and bazman from these parts ran that one. Other contenders you might recognise would be simon fairmaner, emmett dunleavy, gary higgins. Eoin mckenna.

Hell also be discussing other victories, his world title obviously, his first warriors win, defeating then world champion kenny stuart, and his other great triumphs. Should be a good listen. (Dont know if it will be on podcast.)

Krusty_Clown

T runner wrote: »

For those interested, john lenihan will be doing an i terview on radio kerry between 9 and 11 tomorrow morning,

Do you know if it was recorded/available T-runner?

Raighne

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Do you know if it was recorded/available T-runner?

It's available here: http://www.radiokerry.ie/podcast_series/saturday-supplement/#

Slogger Jogger

In the latest podcast there is reference to a previous one, of John Lenihan's early years. Here it is:-
http://media.radiokerry.ie/mediamanager/embed/player/podcasts/38/item/5515

nerraw1111

First winter league race is on this Sunday, noon, at Howth. It's ideal for beginners or people looking to dip their toe in hill running.

Just over 5km. It's a great race. Despite the short distance, it packs a punch with a surprising amount of variety, from muddy trails to scrambling over rocks. €10 to join for the year and €7 per race thereafter. Or you can buy 10 race vouchers for €50, making it a fiver per race.

Peterx

nerraw1111 wrote: »

First winter league race is on this Sunday, noon, at Howth. It's ideal for beginners or people looking to dip their toe in hill running.

Just over 5km. It's a great race. Despite the short distance, it packs a punch with a surprising amount of variety, from muddy trails to scrambling over rocks. €10 to join for the year and €7 per race thereafter. Or you can buy 10 race vouchers for €50, making it a fiver per race.

And you can buy before you try with online yearly registration and vouchers, saving everyone time.

https://www.imra.ie/users/myimraselecttype

belcarra

I assume any unused vouchers from last year do not carry over to 2014 season?

Slogger Jogger

belcarra wrote: »

I assume any unused vouchers from last year do not carry over to 2014 season?

Correct. No carry forwards.

summit2summit

Great race today at Howth. A fast and muddy 5k! Looking forward to Ticknock now.

Slogger Jogger

summit2summit wrote: »

Great race today at Howth. A fast and muddy 5k! Looking forward to Ticknock now.

+1 to that. Anyone wearing road runners would have been struggling.

I said to a girl beforehand who was wearing headphones that they weren't allowed (for safety etc). Her reply.. oh, they aren't turned on. So you are wearing them why exactly? :rolleyes:

eoinín

This was the most enjoyable race I've done in quite some time - great scenery, great atmosphere, great organisation. Every race should have a U.S. high school / college group cheering the runners on - they were all so enthusiastic - "you guys are awesome"!!

Thanks to all involved in the organisation.

HelenAnne

eoinín wrote: »

This was the most enjoyable race I've done in quite some time - great scenery, great atmosphere, great organisation. Every race should have a U.S. high school / college group cheering the runners on - they were all so enthusiastic - "you guys are awesome"!!

Thanks to all involved in the organisation.

What about me and my loud, foghorn-voiced cheering at the end?

ThisRegard

Those Americans were good craic, there was a pile of them. They must have been filthy by the time they got back to their digs.

Big turn out yesterday, biggest yet for a regular league race, 274 runners, 211 the year before.

Just spotted the Summer League races are now up, with a Howth summer making an appearance.

summit2summit

And right on Q the IMRA site goes down!

ThisRegard

Yeah, I got to see the summer league and that was it before it went down.

Rogue Runner

summit2summit wrote: »

And right on Q the IMRA site goes down!

:rolleyes:

morceli

eoinín wrote: »

This was the most enjoyable race I've done in quite some time - great scenery, great atmosphere, great organisation. Every race should have a U.S. high school / college group cheering the runners on - they were all so enthusiastic - "you guys are awesome"!!

Thanks to all involved in the organisation.

+1
Yep really enjoyed this one, apart from the major lack of fitness but that another story. Really well run even and great support from the yanks during the run. Was very glad that I had received a pair of train runners for Christmas would have been lost without them.

Peterx

Ticknock. John Kelly has come up with a cracking route for this one (with initial inspiration from Mountain Rescue)
I will be recceing it on Saturday to get the exact distance/elevation if anyone wants to try before they buy.
10am at Lamb Doyles.

GoHardOrGoHome

Peterx wrote: »

Ticknock. John Kelly has come up with a cracking route for this one.
I will be recceing it on Saturday to get the exact distance/elevation if anyone wants to try before they buy.
10am at Lamb Doyles.

Hi Peter,
Do you know yet whether it's clockwise or anti-clockwise? Do you descend the bone shaker or ascend it?
Won't be around for the recce but will be very early for the race!

Peterx

GoHardOrGoHome wrote: »

Hi Peter,
Do you know yet whether it's clockwise or anti-clockwise? Do you descend the bone shaker or ascend it?
Won't be around for the recce but will be very early for the race!

Race start leads to the bottom of the Boneshaker but we are not going either up or down it. The loop essentially goes out across the open mountain, up the fireroad, left up a rocky trail, cuts across through the smaller masts, a track across to the old WW, down that, across to the Red Shed, through the forest and back over to the bottom of the Boneshaker and back down the singletrack you came up to the finish.
So Clockwise.
We are looking at the juniors going up the boneshaker to cut out some of the loop.

morceli

How do the climbs compare to that in howth apart from been longer , much steeper?. Haven't been up in that area in a long time.

Peterx

morceli wrote: »

How do the climbs compare to that in howth apart from been longer , much steeper?. Haven't been up in that area in a long time.

They are no steeper then Howth but are much longer climbs and the ground underfoot has more loose rocks. It is also wetter.

PaulieC

Is it starting out from Lamb Doyles or Ticknock Car Park ?

ThisRegard

Registration is at Lamb Doyles and according to the IMRA site the start is 500m away, so sounds like the start is similar to Run the Line back in November.

nerraw1111

Fairly sure the start is in the first carpark at Ticknock. The route then follows the short trail that brings you to the second carpark. Straight ahead on the road, turning down where the MTB track comes out. You come out at the boneshaker, but cross that and head around the mtn before climbing up towards the smaller aerials.

It looks like a nice route as it avoid the bone gouging paths and takes in the nice west side of the hill, which is lovely and fast.

GoHardOrGoHome

Peterx wrote: »

Race start leads to the bottom of the Boneshaker but we are not going either up or down it. The loop essentially goes out across the open mountain, up the fireroad, left up a rocky trail, cuts across through the smaller masts, a track across to the old WW, down that, across to the Red Shed, through the forest and back over to the bottom of the Boneshaker and back down the singletrack you came up to the finish.
So Clockwise.
We are looking at the juniors going up the boneshaker to cut out some of the loop.

That's great. Thanks Peter.

On the juniors what's the lowest age entry for the short course?
There may be some 14 year old lads interested in running the short course.

Peterx

PaulieC wrote: »

Is it starting out from Lamb Doyles or Ticknock Car Park ?

Near Lamb Doyles on a lane off the roadway. NOT TICKNOCK CARPARK. If this plan changes the race page will be updated.

GoHardOrGoHome wrote: »

That's great. Thanks Peter.

On the juniors what's the lowest age entry for the short course?
There may be some 14 year old lads interested in running the short course.

I will have to consult with the junior officer for the guidelines, hopefully the route will be short enough to allow the 14 year old to take part.

morceli

Peterx wrote: »

They are no steeper then Howth but are much longer climbs and the ground underfoot has more loose rocks. It is also wetter.

Great thanks sounds good will give it a good. Legs really don't like hill but hope they learn soon.

PaulieC

Peterx wrote: »

Near Lamb Doyles on a lane off the roadway. NOT TICKNOCK CARPARK. If this plan changes the race page will be updated.



I will have to consult with the junior officer for the guidelines, hopefully the route will be short enough to allow the 14 year old to take part.

do you mean the location where the RTL race entered the trails off the road ?

Peterx

PaulieC wrote: »

do you mean the location where the RTL race entered the trails off the road ?

Just up the road from there. I would prefer not to start straight into single track.

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/435239347
or
http://app.strava.com/activities/108780386

We ran it today, it's technical underfoot no matter which direction you take on the loop so decided on Clockwise as we get a lovely flowy descending 300m through the mature forest near the end of the loop.

PaulieC

Peterx wrote: »

Just up the road from there. I would prefer not to start straight into single track.

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/435239347
or
http://app.strava.com/activities/108780386

We ran it today, it's technical underfoot no matter which direction you take on the loop so decided on Clockwise as we get a lovely flowy descending 300m through the mature forest near the end of the loop.

Thanks Peter, it looks like a smashing route and should avoid the backup we had at the start of Run the Line

Rogue Runner

Leinster Championship races have been added.

summit2summit

Rogue Runner wrote: »

Leinster Championship races have been added.

I'm organising the Circuit of Brockagh race, will post much for details on it as soon as I can get a recce done! Thinking of marking the start (same start as Circuit of Glendalough) to the road crossing just north of Laragh. The rest will be free route choice.

Mandatory places are start/finish, Scarr, Tonelagee, Camaderry, start/finish

nerraw1111

Peterx wrote: »

Just up the road from there. I would prefer not to start straight into single track.

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/435239347
or
http://app.strava.com/activities/108780386

We ran it today, it's technical underfoot no matter which direction you take on the loop so decided on Clockwise as we get a lovely flowy descending 300m through the mature forest near the end of the loop.

Did the route today. Somehow added on an extra 3km! Nice course, v technical and v wet. Tougher than it looks.