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People trying to pawn their old baby stuff off on you...

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    #62
    OldNotWIse
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    I was under the impression that babies grow so fast there is not really any time for them to wear stuff out...


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    #63
    IvyTheTerrible
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    OldNotWIse wrote: »
    I was under the impression that babies grow so fast there is not really any time for them to wear stuff out...
    Not neccessarily true, they don't grow out of a cot for years. So if you are offered a cot that 2, or 3 or 4 children have already used, it can be battered enough.


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    #64
    Sligo1
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    spurious wrote: »
    I would agree where something is soiled or obviously unusable on a health basis, but when it's just not the 'style' someone wanted, people must have money to burn if they turn it down.
    It's the same issue where anyone over 35, when they moved out of home were inundated with the 'brown suite' we all got from relatives/friends - and we were happy with it. It worked until we could afford better. Now it's all spend, spend, spend on new things, when there is no need. Far better save money and spend it on other stuff for the child. It's not like the child even knows what sort of cot they are in.

    Do you get all your clothes from oxfam?


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    #65
    Xdancer
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    I used a changing mat on the dining table. I also put the bath on a towel on the dining table. It was the right height so no back issues and no need for a changing table.


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    #66
    OldNotWIse
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    IvyTheTerrible wrote: »
    Not neccessarily true, they don't grow out of a cot for years. So if you are offered a cot that 2, or 3 or 4 children have already used, it can be battered enough.

    true, I was referring more to clothes. With a cot, I would be more worried about safety than aesthetics.


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    #67
    OldNotWIse
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    Sligo1 wrote: »
    Do you get all your clothes from oxfam?


    I dont think the child is going to be worried about how its clothes look in the office or when it socialises with friends.


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    #68
    Millem
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    OldNotWIse wrote: »
    true, I was referring more to clothes. With a cot, I would be more worried about safety than aesthetics.

    I agree I just have it in my head the more times the screws have been done and undone it weakens it! The grandparents had an old cot and it was not a standard size so mattress would be a nightmare to track down so they ended up just buying a new one with a sprung mattress for €80. Clothes are always on sale I bought some lovely Disney outfits in dunnes for €3, littlewoods constantly have a sale too plus you get soooo many presents! If you have the time to look for the bargains great but if you have to work right up to the birth and not have the time to research and buy it would be horrendously expensive.


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    #69
    Murt10
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    Don't know what I'm doing on a pregnanct thread, but my tuppence worth,

    For the 1st child, nothing is good enough, everything has to be soo clean, scalded and milton coming out of your ears.

    For the 2nd child, you've learnt your lesson, sure it'll be grand and it is.

    There was some Professor from Trinity on the radio last week. He was saying that we are too clean and this is harmful to our children, causing their systems to overreact and for them to develope allergies etc.

    He recommended that if a soother falls on the ground, pick it up and give it back to the child. The bacteria will allow him/her to develope a defence against germs.


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    #70
    Sligo1
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    OldNotWIse wrote: »
    I dont think the child is going to be worried about how its clothes look in the office or when it socialises with friends.

    Perhaps I should've said 'stuff' instead of 'clothes' specifically then...

    Also it's not really about what the child is worried about but more so the parents....


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    #71
    Ash.J.Williams
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    people have approached me about baby clothes and are delighted with what i give them...the bigger stuff too.


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    #72
    Arbiter of Good Taste
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    Murt10 wrote: »
    He recommended that if a soother falls on the ground, pick it up and give it back to the child. The bacteria will allow him/her to develope a defence against germs.

    I agree, but presumably within reason. I saw a mother do this on the Luas once. I nearly got sick.


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    #73
    IvyTheTerrible
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    Arbiter of Good Taste wrote: »
    I agree, but presumably within reason. I saw a mother do this on the Luas once. I nearly got sick.
    I used to do it at home, but never out and about. (Don't need to do it now because he knows soothers are only for bedtime, so in the morning he puts the soothers 'to bed' in his bed!)


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    #74
    Arbiter of Good Taste
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    IvyTheTerrible wrote: »
    I used to do it at home, but never out and about. (Don't need to do it now because he knows soothers are only for bedtime, so in the morning he puts the soothers 'to bed' in his bed!)

    Yeah, I figure at home is fine, but the Luas! Ugh. I wash my hands after touching the pole, one can only imagine what's on the floor. Poor baby.


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    #75
    Hello Lady!
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    At home if the doodie falls I stick it in my own gob before giving it back. Outside the home it would depend on where it fell, but it would still go in my gob first so if I wouldn't be prepared to do that I wouldn't give it to the child. Those portable Milton soother sterilisers wouldn't be for me - I'd rather give the child and bit of dirt than all those chemicals on a regular basis. My steriliser died on Sunday so I was kind of stuck and had to cold water sterilise with Milton. Even the way it makes the plastic on the bottles go milky puts me off. I ended up putting everything through the dishwasher to sterilise until I got sorted with a new steriliser yesterday.

    On the changing table thing, no way would I be running upstairs each time, but then I do have two! its not like I can leave one unattended while I go upstairs with the other one and I am hardly going to bring them both up. I assume it's the same for mums with two close in age? We also got a Billy bookcase with a door from Ikea and it sits behind our sitting room door in a corner where you hardly notice it. On the top half where the door is glass I have photos of the girls etc. In the bottom are clothes, babygrows, vests, a stash of wipes extra nappies etc. That way, when we have a code brown of the explosive kind I don't have to run up for a change of clothes. :D


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    #76
    Hello Lady!
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    At home if the doodie falls I stick it in my own gob before giving it back. Outside the home it would depend on where it fell, but it would still go in my gob first so if I wouldn't be prepared to do that I wouldn't give it to the child. Those portable Milton soother sterilisers wouldn't be for me - I'd rather give the child and bit of dirt than all those chemicals on a regular basis. My steriliser died on Sunday so I was kind of stuck and had to cold water sterilise with Milton. Even the way it makes the plastic on the bottles go milky puts me off. I ended up putting everything through the dishwasher to sterilise until I got sorted with a new steriliser yesterday.

    On the changing table thing, no way would I be running upstairs each time, but then I do have two! its not like I can leave one unattended while I go upstairs with the other one and I am hardly going to bring them both up. I assume it's the same for mums with two close in age? We also got a Billy bookcase with a door from Ikea and it sits behind our sitting room door in a corner where you hardly notice it. On the top half where the door is glass I have photos of the girls etc. In the bottom are clothes, babygrows, vests, a stash of wipes extra nappies etc. That way, when we have a code brown of the explosive kind I don't have to run up for a change of clothes. :D


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    #77
    FurBabyMomma
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    I think the title of this thread is horrible. Think about it from the point if view of the giver. If they wanted to pawn stuff off they would have dumped everything at a charity shop once the child outgrew them. Instead they hung onto the items hoping to help some new parents.

    Tell your husband to get used to saying no - he'll need that word a lot when there's a toddler in the house so may as well get the practice in...


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    #78
    Akrasia
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    Millem wrote: »
    I totally agree that people are just trying to be kind. I have found though that people are wildly different options on "acceptable condition". A family member was so excited giving me vests and babygrows and a lot of poo stains on them!!!! Lol :) when another family member pointed it out to them they said "ah sure it's only a little bit!!". Honestly they really did have the best of intentions
    :)

    For newborns especially, poo stains are par for the course. Unless you want to spend stupid money replacing the vests and baby grows every time they get a bit of poo on them around the nappy area, your baby won't notice the difference and when they're washed there's no risk to the baby and anyway, you won't see them under the babies other clothes. (obviously, some stains are much worse than others and if there is a lot of mess it's probably best to throw those ones out if only for asthetic reasons)

    For the first few weeks/months you could be going through 10 changes of clothes a day (depending on the child, some babies are more enthusiastic excretors than others)
    You might think a 3 pack of baby vests is cheap, but the baby grows so fast and needs to be changed so often that you should be very grateful for donations of these clothes.

    As for the toys, yeah, offers of broken rubbish are common but you'll just have to accept that from now on, your house will become a magnet for cheap plastic rubbish. 95% of all the gifts your child will receive for christmas and birthdays will be rubbish that never gets played with and/or breaks the first day.

    That's not anyone's fault really. But don't be a hoarder. If a toy gets broken, throw it out or if it never gets played with, either donate it to charity or offer it to someone else (while you might have lots of family and friends who give you their left over stuff, there are lots of people who don't and would be glad of some toys for the children)


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    #79
    Akrasia
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    Murt10 wrote: »

    There was some Professor from Trinity on the radio last week. He was saying that we are too clean and this is harmful to our children, causing their systems to overreact and for them to develope allergies etc.

    He recommended that if a soother falls on the ground, pick it up and give it back to the child. The bacteria will allow him/her to develope a defence against germs.

    Yeah, this is known as 'The Hygiene Hyopthesis'
    Basically, by keeping the environment around a baby too clean/sterile, you will reduce the number of infections the baby gets, but this has adverse consequences for the developing immune system.

    The human immune system works by 'remembering' pathogens and developing defenses against them. If the baby is not exposed to the normal bacteria that exists in the environment, then two things happen

    1. the immune system does not develop an immunity to these pathogens at an early age
    2. more importantly, the immune system (which expects to be kept busy constantly fighting off infection) ends up over-reacting to normal every day environmental pollutants and this causes an auto-immune response.

    A lot of 'alternative medicine' and supplements talk about 'boosting the immune system'. This is dangerous. Our immune system needs to be optomised, not boosted. An over active immune system leads to allergies and auto immune diseases and can be just as dangerous as a weakened immune system

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2841828/

    The message is that while we should keep the house clean and limit a new born baby's exposure to dangerous bacteria, we also should not be sterilising everything that the baby touches, The human body has evolved so that for the first few years, children train their immune systems to identify what environmental agents are dangerous, and what are safe and if this process is disrupted, the immune response will be less efficient.


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    #80
    olaola
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    Akrasia wrote: »

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2841828/

    The message is that while we should keep the house clean and limit a new born baby's exposure to dangerous bacteria, we also should not be sterilising everything that the baby touches, The human body has evolved so that for the first few years, children train their immune systems to identify what environmental agents are dangerous, and what are safe and if this process is disrupted, the immune response will be less efficient.

    Studies are also showing that children who aren't being exposed to infection such as measles, chicken pox etc, are developing auto immune conditions, for example - Crohn's/Colitis. There's obviously a risk with measles & chicken pox! I'm not sure what the full statistics are. With the theory that their immune system has never had a significant (enough) attack, so it starts to attack itself.

    I don't have the hard data to support that now! I was just verbally informed by a consultant from Crumlin.

    But there are numerous studies to show children raised in a homes with pets (or even on farms) to have less incidences of allergies, asthma, infections and the use of antibiotics. Not saying we all have to rush out and get a dog in the last trimester of pregnancy, but it does show how important the 'education of the immune' system can be for a newborn!


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    #81
    Millem
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    Akrasia wrote: »
    For newborns especially, poo stains are par for the course. Unless you want to spend stupid money replacing the vests and baby grows every time they get a bit of poo on them around the nappy area, your baby won't notice the difference and when they're washed there's no risk to the baby and anyway, you won't see them under the babies other clothes. (obviously, some stains are much worse than others and if there is a lot of mess it's probably best to throw those ones out if only for asthetic reasons)

    For the first few weeks/months you could be going through 10 changes of clothes a day (depending on the child, some babies are more enthusiastic excretors than others)
    You might think a 3 pack of baby vests is cheap, but the baby grows so fast and needs to be changed so often that you should be very grateful for donations of these clothes.

    I draw the line at poo stains! My baby is a month old and yes he has gotten poo on his vests and babygrows but I soak them ASAP and wash them and have always managed to get the stains out. If there is ever a case that I can't get the stains out I will bin them and certainly wouldn't be offering them to other people. I wouldn't wear clothes with poo stains on them and I wouldn't put them on him!


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    #82
    implausible
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    Millem wrote: »
    If there is ever a case that I can't get the stains out I will bin them and certainly wouldn't be offering them to other people.

    Oh jaysus, if I threw out every vest or pair of underpants that I couldn't get stains out of, my two would be spending a lot of time naked! The stains come out eventually. I would, however, draw the line at offering them to other people.


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    #83
    Sligo1
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    I just couldn't bare to look at mine dressed in baby Gros or clothes with poo stains. That's just me tho. Having said that... The vast majority of things that got poo on them the stains came out after the first or second wash. Maybe my fella has great soluble poo! Lol. If they didnt come out they'd be binned. Yuk.


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    #84
    IvyTheTerrible
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    I never had an issue with poo stains, once I ran it under the tap straight away, it was grand. And this was a baby with explosive poos!


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    #85
    Hello Lady!
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    A bit of non bio napisan in the wash gets most stains out I find.


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    #86
    Millem
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    IvyTheTerrible wrote: »
    I never had an issue with poo stains, once I ran it under the tap straight away, it was grand. And this was a baby with explosive poos!

    I am the same I just rinse then let it soak! The girl who tried to give me poo stained clothes just puts them in laundry basket and waits a few days to wash so that is why I think the stains didn't come out. Her baby's bibs are the same black stains from banana. Again I wouldn't take stained bibs!


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    #87
    Sligo1
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    Millem wrote: »
    I am the same I just rinse then let it soak! The girl who tried to give me poo stained clothes just puts them in laundry basket and waits a few days to wash so that is why I think the stains didn't come out. Her baby's bibs are the same black stains from banana. Again I wouldn't take stained bibs!

    Banana is sooooo annoying to try and get out! Stains my bibs and face cloths even when I rinse them. Poo so much easier.. Lol


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    #88
    Chattastrophe!
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    My baby has never gotten poo on his clothes ... or had an explosive poo ... I've totally just jinxed myself now. :o


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    #89
    Sligo1
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    Chattastrophe! wrote: »
    My baby has never gotten poo on his clothes ... or had an explosive poo ... I've totally just jinxed myself now. :o

    Wait till he's teething! Lol


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    #90
    Xdancer
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    Chattastrophe! wrote: »
    My baby has never gotten poo on his clothes ... or had an explosive poo ... I've totally just jinxed myself now. :o


    My daughter is now 2 and I have only ever experienced an explosive poo twice with her. You might be lucky too :D


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    #91
    nikpmup
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    My lad exploded constantly when he was on breast milk. Once all over my OH's white T-shirt. In a coffee shop. In the middle of the blanchardstown centre. :D


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