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Zodiac; the best film of the past 10 years? If not, what is?

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    #272
    darced
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    #273
    Liamalone
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    Drive, can't understand the love-in for that pretentious piece of merde.


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    #274
    e_e
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    Liamalone wrote: »
    Drive, can't understand the love-in for that pretentious piece of merde.
    Pretentious? I'll never understand why people use that word towards it (or many films for that matter).


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    #275
    MilanPan!c
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    Sure both Children of Men and Gravity are better.


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    #276
    e_e
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    All excellent films but I don't see the comparison.


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    #277
    catallus
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    The Life and Death of Peter Sellers.

    I've been considering this question for some time, and I have to lay my cards on the table and say this is the best, the acting, cinematography, script (knowledge and use of subject material), and measured tone and pathos, the flawless editing. It was clearly a labour of love by all involved.


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    Corholio
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    catallus wrote: »
    The Life and Death of Peter Sellers.

    I've been considering this question for some time, and I have to lay my cards on the table and say this is the best, the acting, cinematography, script (knowledge and use of subject material), and measured tone and pathos, the flawless editing. It was clearly a labour of love by all involved.

    Wow. Rarely seen this film discussed, but I personally loved it and glad to see someone else who did.


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    #279
    catallus
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    Yeah it was lauded a bit on its release, but it seems kinda forgotten now, but it really is a great film about flawed man, it shows him warts and all; I picked it over The Assassination Of Jesse James, it was a close thing, but anyone who knows anything about Sellers' life and films I think would appreciate the achievement of putting his life on film so beautifully. Without over-doing it I'd say it is a monument to him. Those final scenes with him seeming to be frozen in the snow, (or frozen in time, also), with Lithgow looking right at and knowingly through him, and then the touching ending copying Being There, it was just so powerful and seemed so right.


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    Tipsy McSwagger
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    blade1 wrote: »
    Not the best, but for me definitely worth a mention..
    Training Day.

    Released in 2001.


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    #281
    FlashD
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    Alright lads...who's double voting on TDK now? Sneaky


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    #282
    blade1
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    blade1 wrote: »
    Not the best, but for me definitely worth a mention..
    Training Day.
    Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »
    Released in 2001.

    Wow!
    Nearly 13 years old.
    Time flies when you're having fun:)


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    #283
    youtube!
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    Being a horror buff I am very difficult to please but "The Conjuring" is truly excellent and I rate it as the best film since The Exorcist, so that means the best film in almost 40 years!


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    #284
    krudler
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    youtube! wrote: »
    Being a horror buff I am very difficult to please but "The Conjuring" is truly excellent and I rate it as the best film since The Exorcist, so that means the best film in almost 40 years!

    I liked The Conjuring but come on


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    #285
    brevity
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    I think Michael Clayton deserves to up there. An excellent movie with some brilliant performances.


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    #286
    Tipsy McSwagger
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    youtube! wrote: »
    Being a horror buff I am very difficult to please but "The Conjuring" is truly excellent and I rate it as the best film since The Exorcist, so that means the best film in almost 40 years!

    The Conjuring had one decent scene.


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    Mike Litoris
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    youtube! wrote: »
    Being a horror buff I am very difficult to please but "The Conjuring" is truly excellent and I rate it as the best film since The Exorcist, so that means the best film in almost 40 years!

    I agree, but only in that genre. For me, deffo the best horror since The Exorcist.


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    WinnyThePoo
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    youtube! wrote: »
    Being a horror buff I am very difficult to please but "The Conjuring" is truly excellent and I rate it as the best film since The Exorcist, so that means the best film in almost 40 years!

    I'll have to watch the conjuring again , watched it with friends half cut the last time.
    I thought Sinister was the best horror i'd seen lately. It shook me to the bone.


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    #289
    osnola ibax
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    Sci fi fan, Moon for me, followed by sunshine


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    #290
    youtube!
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    krudler wrote: »
    I liked The Conjuring but come on



    Hey it's my opinion! As horror is my favourite genre it gets my vote, a truly excellent movie and the only one to properly scare me besides the Exorcist.


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    Tipsy McSwagger
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    youtube! wrote: »
    Hey it's my opinion! As horror is my favourite genre it gets my vote, a truly excellent movie and the only one to properly scare me besides the Exorcist.

    What about all the French, Spanish, Korean, Japanese, Scandinavian horror films released between The Exorcist and The Conjuring. Films like The Ring, The Grudge, Rec, The Orphanage, Martyrs, Audition, The Devils Backbone, Let the Right One In etc etc


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    LuckyLloyd
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    ThirdMan wrote: »
    His decision-making drives the entire plot and he has quite a large (if not the largest) amount of screen time. The theme of the film is centred around Bell, but for me Moss is the lead character. I know what you're saying though. It's a very good point.

    By the way, have you read this? It's a good analysis (although I don't agree with it).

    That's a good read, cheers. Wouldn't agree with it all but some interesting strands of analysis. Also, I wasn't trying to be snippy by pointing out that he wasn't the lead character - it's a fact that many who watched the film seemed to miss.

    In regards to Moss dying off screen, the majority of deaths in the film happen off screen and, in the end, the film points towards the inevitable death of the lead character at some point after the screen fades to black. I believe that, for some people, irrespective of the manner of his death the fact he is 'killed off' would have annoyed them anyway. There is no happy escape for him into the sunset and any end will be meaningless in this context. He is hunted down by various unsympatethic forces that he can't outrun or outfight. It's an incredibly bleak piece of work that doesn't shy away or compromise in its conclusion. The film serves to say that noone is in control and that isn't going to resonate with many.


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    krudler
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    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    I'll have to watch the conjuring again , watched it with friends half cut the last time.
    I thought Sinister was the best horror i'd seen lately. It shook me to the bone.

    Sinister had it's moments until the final act when it just became farcical, the score and the home movie footage were all brilliantly done though, especially the pool scene, that was chilling.


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    Chazz Michael Michaels
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    Gamb!t wrote: »
    Bourne Trilogy
    Music plot and action fantastic.

    There will be blood seriously ?
    Id have to put that as the worst film Ive seen in 10 years from that list.

    You should be banned from watching films


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    gracehopper
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    Mousewar wrote: »
    I'm struggling to think of a better film than 'A Single Man' in the last ten years.

    just finished watching it based on your comment. Excellent movie. Great performance by Colin firth. thanks for that.

    Also thanks to everyone on the thread, i've been working my way through movies mentioned on this for a couple of weeks. All really good stuff.


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    Cartel Mike
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    Zodiac a good solid film alright.
    No idea what the best film is but the two I enjoyed the most were
    Girl with the dragon tatoo(remake, and prob helped by the fact I havn't seen the Swedish original)
    & Silver linnings playbook.

    Odd because I didn't think id like either of these films at all .


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    K4t
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    Some of my favourites from the last 10 years:
    The Kite Runner
    Into The Wild
    Diving Bell and the Butterfly
    No Country For Old Men
    Milk
    The Wrestler
    Brokeback Mountain
    The Departed
    The Tree of Life
    The Social Network
    Drive
    Moneyball

    Best Comedy:
    Napoleon Dynamite
    Clerks II
    Zoolander


    Most overrated would be The Dark Knight, Zodiac (only after seeing this thread) and Before Sunrise, Before Sunset, Before Midnight, Before I claw my eyes out.

    Most overrated Comedy:
    Anchorman
    The Hangover
    Superbad


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    darced
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    loveBBhate
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    Cartel Mike wrote: »
    No idea what the best film is but the two I enjoyed the most were
    Girl with the dragon tatoo(remake, and prob helped by the fact I havn't seen the Swedish original) .

    The Swedish original(s) are better imo, prob helped by the fact that I seen them first :P


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    e_e
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    I've only seen the first of the Swedish originals but it felt more like a TV movie to me compared to the brilliant atmospheric direction that Fincher brought to it.


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    youtube!
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    Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »
    What about all the French, Spanish, Korean, Japanese, Scandinavian horror films released between The Exorcist and The Conjuring. Films like The Ring, The Grudge, Rec, The Orphanage, Martyrs, Audition, The Devils Backbone, Let the Right One In etc etc



    Cant admit to seeing every horror ever made but from your list I saw The Ring and Grudge, I thought the Ring was excellent ,grudge no so much.

    I will check out the others you have posted. When it comes down to it though almost every time I see a new horror I am invariably left disappointed, I can tell what's coming a mile off and they all seem so contrived to me.

    I was genuinely surprised by just how incredible of a film the Conjuring was though, as I said earlier it really did chill me to the bone.... and for days afterwards and that just doesn't happen with very many films,sure I enjoy lots of horrors and different types of horrors but this was different, this got in on me,very disturbing.

    As for the Exorcist, well its quite simply the greatest movie ever made in any genre for me, and even though I have watched it over 20 times it still scares the living **** outta me every time!


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