Lack of new routes at Cork airport

snotboogie

Carnacalla wrote: »

How is Shannon's location ridiculous, explain that? Its right beside Limerick. Cork has actually a worse location, on a hill with a North/South runway.

I've explained it many times. Cork has 400,000+ people within 30 to 45 minutes of its airport. Shannon doesn't get to that number unless you double the commute time. Cork City and suburbs are around 3 times the size of Limerick City and suburbs, if you take in the towns around Cork, which are commutable to the Airport, it's about 4 times the size of Limerick. That's why the location is ridiculous.

SpaceTime wrote: »

I don't think you'll see much progress on flights East bound from Cork or Shannon for a long time other than maybe some scope for maybe for charters if the eastern tourism market grows.

Asian flights aren't as highly competitive as infra European flights so, I can't really see anything going secondary airports. Most of those routes rely on having large, full aircraft or else they're very expensive and not likely to be chasing lower airport charges anyway.

Cork needs to look at places with significant numbers of people who want to fly to the southern part of Ireland too. It needs very tight marketing that coincides with big drives to market the region.

If it's looking at transatlantic maybe specialising in trying to target some point to point flights with smaller aircraft to smaller US and Canadian cities than the typical hubs? Go after places with a lot of Irish connections but that aren't necessarily huge hubs?

I'm thinking like a twice weekly 757 to Edmundton or something like that ?!

Or go after transatlantic low cost carriers and try and cut some interesting deals there.

Ya plus Singapore Airlines and Cathay Pacific would probably baulk at taking a punt at Dublin, never mind Shannon or Cork. You'd have more of a chance with the Chinese Airlines I guess. It's just odd that there is NOTHING going east of the UAE from Ireland. I'm surprised no airline has ever taken a shot at Dublin to Beijing, especially given the relatively short distance, the volume of traffic going through Beijing Capital and the amount of Chinese in Ireland.

Kankan14

snotboogie wrote: »

I've explained it many times. Cork has 400,000+ people within 30 to 45 minutes of its airport. Shannon doesn't get to that number unless you double the commute time. Cork City and suburbs is around 3 times the size of Limerick City and suburbs, if you take in the towns around Cork, which are easily commutable to the Airport, it's about 4 times the size of Limerick. That's why the location is ridiculous.

But isn't Galway and Ennis both within 40 mins of shannon that could make the numbers a little closer?

SpaceTime

Kankan14 wrote: »

But isn't Galway and Ennis both within 40 mins of shannon that could make the numbers a little closer?

Not unless they moved Galway. It's currently well over an hour.

JCX BXC

SpaceTime wrote: »

Not unless they moved Galway. It's currently well over an hour.

1hr 10mins to Galway, the nearest airport to Galway.

SpaceTime

2h07 to Dublin Airport

Kankan14

SpaceTime wrote: »

Not unless they moved Galway. It's currently well over an hour.

Fair enough didnt realise it was a little over an hour. At the same time hardly a million miles away.

JCX BXC

SpaceTime wrote: »

2h07 to Dublin Airport

And?

I'm really getting tired of this, its plain trolling at this stage by snotboogie. I won't be responding to any of this location nonsense, its not even relevant.

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pwurple

SpaceTime wrote: »

Cork needs to look at places with significant numbers of people who want to fly to the southern part of Ireland too. It needs very tight marketing that coincides with big drives to market the region.

I agree it would be great if the market was served, but I'm not sure what mechanisms airports use to arrange new flights. Do they approach airlines, or is it the other way around...

The big employers in Cork are Apple, EMC and the various Pharma places. None of them are currently served by Cork airport, it's a pain in the backside. All that business travel is through shannon or dublin. It is a real shame, as business travel is price insensitive, their priority is suitable times and convenience. Price is not as much of a factor.

West coast US, East coast US and some smaller european locations would cover them nicely.

snotboogie

Kankan14 wrote: »

But isn't Galway and Ennis both within 40 mins of shannon that could make the numbers a little closer?

Galway is about an hour and 15 minutes away. Ennis only has a population of 20k.

Carnacalla wrote: »

And?

I'm really getting tired of this, its plain trolling at this stage by snotboogie. I won't be responding to any of this location nonsense, its not even relevant.

Glasgow has been removed from sale from the 23rd of October.

What? I have responded to your question how it's nonsense, simply Cork is in a far more populated area. Thats without even touching on the Multinationals in Cork.

JCX BXC

Galway is an hour and 10mins away, Ennis has 25k, that's what I mean by petty, changing the figure's to suit you. Ennis 25k is without considering an urban area.

Reputable Rog

Wellpark,Galway was 55 minutes exactly from Coonagh Cross, Limerick the last time I drove it and thats not exceeding the speed limit. Therefore Shannon to Galway takes a lot less time.

corkonion

My house is eight minutes from Tom's but only 6 on the way back

vkid

snotboogie wrote: »

Galway is about an hour and 15 minutes away. Ennis only has a population of 20k.
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I drive it regularly and it never takes 1hr 15 to Galway from Shannon.

draiochtanois

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beer enigma

Ok enough - I've tried to let this thread run & only recently asked people to refrain from arguments & it seems that holding a civilised conversation is obviously proving too challenging for some.

The Mods are fed up with people contantly reporting each other, so I'm closing it.