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Man your pumps, Wetherspoons are coming

Tabnabs · 2013-08-31 13:41:06

Cheap and cheerful or souless and bland. You'll get to decide at a location near you soon enough. http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/retail-and-services/british-pub-chain-wetherspoon-set-to-acquire-dublin-bar-1.1511162

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#1982 17-02-2015 9:35am
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BeerNut wrote: »

It really hasn't been doing much of a job on that front so far.

As a seasoned connoisseur yourself of fine ales and beers do you think Wetherspoons still lack a lot of quality in terms of the alcohol on offer? Personally I think to have at least a pub embracing variety and at a low cost can only be a positive thing.

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#1983 17-02-2015 10:04am
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Random_Name wrote: »

Does anybody know why the upstairs terrace is still closed in the forty foot?

Yeah, still closed.

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#1984 17-02-2015 10:41am
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Baron Kurtz wrote: »

do you think Wetherspoons still lack a lot of quality in terms of the alcohol on offer?

No. I'm never stuck for something to drink. But "superior quality to anything available here at the moment"? Definitely not.

I'll happily drink Sweet Action, Devils Backbone and Adnams Dry-Hopped Lager, but if I want a choice of more than three really good beers, and possibly some stuff I've never had before, and certainly if I want to drink interesting cask ale, I'll go somewhere other than Dublin's JD Wetherspoons.

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#1985 17-02-2015 12:19pm
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BeerNut wrote: »

No. I'm never stuck for something to drink. But "superior quality to anything available here at the moment"? Definitely not.

I'll happily drink Sweet Action, Devils Backbone and Adnams Dry-Hopped Lager, but if I want a choice of more than three really good beers, and possibly some stuff I've never had before, and certainly if I want to drink interesting cask ale, I'll go somewhere other than Dublin's JD Wetherspoons.

I was talking about a future where JDW get their act together here and match the standard of ale available in their UK pubs.

Question - where should I go in Dublin to get a consistently great pint of cask and what should I ask for? I've been to the Black Sheep/Against the Grain etc and quality varies from excellent to borderline undrinkable.

JDW in the UK = quality + consistency.

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#1986 17-02-2015 12:47pm
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The Dungarvan beer in the Palace tends to be pretty reliable. Also never had a bad pint of cask beer in JW Sweetman, when it's on. The Bull & Castle and Porterhouse Temple Bar's beers tend to be pretty well-kept too, in my experience.

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#1987 17-02-2015 12:56pm
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BeerNut wrote: »

The Dungarvan beer in the Palace tends to be pretty reliable. Also never had a bad pint of cask beer in JW Sweetman, when it's on. The Bull & Castle and Porterhouse Temple Bar's beers tend to be pretty well-kept too, in my experience.

Ok got the Palace and Sweetmans on my list; didn't know the Palace did cask.

Have been in the Bull & C 4 times in the last year and I always ask for the cask - but their single one listed has never been available. Have had a rare pint when it's been on in the Porterhouse but so few people drink it, it is lying in those pipes for hours...

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#1988 17-02-2015 1:17pm
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Chelon wrote: »

Ok got the Palace and Sweetmans on my list; didn't know the Palace did cask.

Have been in the Bull & C 4 times in the last year and I always ask for the cask - but their single one listed has never been available. Have had a rare pint when it's been on in the Porterhouse but so few people drink it, it is lying in those pipes for hours...

Why would that matter with cask?

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#1989 17-02-2015 1:47pm
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cruasder777 wrote: »

Blame the state for the quality of door staff in the republic.

There is no national standard or qualification.

Incorrect...

http://www.psa.gov.ie/Website/psa/psa.nsf/agentvw?Openform&vw=psaLicensing

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#1990 17-02-2015 2:12pm
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Chelon wrote: »

didn't know the Palace did cask.

Ah now. You did really.

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#1991 17-02-2015 2:46pm
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Brewdock is also pretty good for cask,

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#1992 17-02-2015 2:56pm
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BeerNut wrote: »

Ah now. You did really.

Yep getting old

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#1993 17-02-2015 3:00pm
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BaZmO* wrote: »

Why would that matter with cask?

Potentially dirty pipes combined with high temperatures? Not sure, maybe some of the stuff I've been served was just past its' drink by date.

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#1994 17-02-2015 3:03pm
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Chelon wrote: »

I was talking about a future where JDW get their act together here and match the standard of ale available in their UK pubs.

Question - where should I go in Dublin to get a consistently great pint of cask and what should I ask for? I've been to the Black Sheep/Against the Grain etc and quality varies from excellent to borderline undrinkable.

JDW in the UK = quality + consistency.

L mulligan grocers is very good, looks like they invested in cask

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#1995 17-02-2015 3:19pm
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Chelon wrote: »

Potentially dirty pipes combined with high temperatures? Not sure, maybe some of the stuff I've been served was just past its' drink by date.

But if it was not lying in the pipes it would have to pass through the pipes anyway. And is cask not served at room temperature anyway? So the temperature of the pipes would be the same temperature of the cask?

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#1996 17-02-2015 3:31pm
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BaZmO* wrote: »

But if it was not lying in the pipes it would have to pass through the pipes anyway. And is cask not served at room temperature anyway? So the temperature of the pipes would be the same temperature of the cask?

Cask should really be served at 12 degrees though.

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#1997 17-02-2015 3:34pm
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irish_goat wrote: »

Cask should really be served at 12 degrees though.

I understand that, but aren't the casks always very close to the taps?

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#1998 17-02-2015 3:46pm
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Also you'd have to think a few seconds or minutes lying in a dirty pipe is less harmful than several hours/days

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#1999 17-02-2015 3:54pm
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Chelon wrote: »

Also you'd have to think a few seconds or minutes lying in a dirty pipe is less harmful than several hours/days

But a dirty pipe is a dirty pipe regardless of how long the beer is sitting in it.

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#2000 17-02-2015 4:38pm
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BaZmO* wrote: »

I understand that, but aren't the casks always very close to the taps?

Nah depends on the set up, can be in the cellar sometimes or in the case of the B&C it's on the bar but there's a cooling prong in it.

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#2001 17-02-2015 4:41pm
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irish_goat wrote: »

in the case of the B&C it's on the bar

Not any more. I think that line may be running down two storeys to the cellar.

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#2002 18-02-2015 11:49am
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BeerNut wrote: »

Not any more. I think that line may be running down two storeys to the cellar.

I'd guess then they stuck it in the cold room upstairs as there's feck all room in the cellar for more kegs. Although if it was there it would at least be in the cold room so would come out more chilled than the bartop cask ever did.

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#2003 18-02-2015 12:48pm
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permission granted by ABP for wetherspoons in cork!

http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/244072.htm

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#2004 19-02-2015 10:50am
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Planning permissions has been granted for JD Wetherspoons in West Dublin, Blanchardstown
http://planning.fingalcoco.ie/swiftlg/apas/run/WPHAPPDETAIL.DisplayUrl?theApnID=FW14A/0148&theTabNo=2

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#2005 19-02-2015 2:47pm
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oblivious wrote: »

Planning permissions has been granted for JD Wetherspoons in West Dublin, Blanchardstown
http://planning.fingalcoco.ie/swiftlg/apas/run/WPHAPPDETAIL.DisplayUrl?theApnID=FW14A/0148&theTabNo=2

That's just planning permission to modify the building. It was always going to be a JDW as it was previously a bar etc.

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#2006 19-02-2015 3:00pm
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n97 mini wrote: »

. It was always going to be a JDW as it was previously a bar etc.

That was depending on planning , objections/ observations could have prevent the re fit and licence application

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#2007 19-02-2015 3:21pm
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Permission for a remodelling would be granted eventually even if the first draft was refused. It already has a licence.

Cork is a different story as a large part was previously a bank.

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#2008 19-02-2015 11:00pm
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n97 mini wrote: »

Permission for a remodelling would be granted eventually even if the first draft was refused. It already has a licence.

Cork is a different story as a large part was previously a bank.

No it wasn't,part of it was a night club the other part was the Newport Bar .

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#2009 20-02-2015 9:26am
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Reputable Rog wrote: »

No it wasn't,part of it was a night club the other part was the Newport Bar .

They've two sites planned in cork. One was a bank branch

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#2010 20-02-2015 12:04pm
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Any opening dates for the new places?

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#2011 20-02-2015 1:41pm
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Reputable Rog wrote: »

No it wasn't,part of it was a night club the other part was the Newport Bar .

Apologies, assumed the one linked to above was the former Bank of Ireland they bought in Douglas, which is also currently subject to a PP application.

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