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Sean O'Rourke Today Show

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    #362
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Lapin wrote: »
    The Portuguese response seems very enlightened but its not a solution. It only prolongs the problem of drug taking in city centre.

    A much cheaper and easier way would be to flood the market with a bad batch of lethal heroin.

    It's better than the stuck in the mud situation we have here in Ireland at present.
    The Portuguese stats show real improvement.

    a real-world example of the actual effects of ending the violent, expensive War on Drugs and replacing it with a system of treatment for problem users and addicts. Ten years ago, Portugal decriminalized all drugs. One decade after this unprecedented experiment, drug abuse is down by half:
    Health experts in Portugal said Friday that Portugal’s decision 10 years ago to decriminalise drug use and treat addicts rather than punishing them is an experiment that has worked.


    “There is no doubt that the phenomenon of addiction is in decline in Portugal,” said Joao Goulao, President of the Institute of Drugs and Drugs Addiction, a press conference to mark the 10th anniversary of the law.
    The number of addicts considered “problematic” — those who repeatedly use “hard” drugs and intravenous users — had fallen by half since the early 1990s, when the figure was estimated at around 100,000 people, Goulao said.


    Other factors had also played their part however, Goulao, a medical doctor added.
    “This development can not only be attributed to decriminalisation but to a confluence of treatment and risk reduction policies.”


    http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/07/05/ten-years-after-decriminalization-drug-abuse-down-by-half-in-portugal/
    Following decriminalization, Portugal had the lowest rate of lifetime marijuana use in people over 15 in the E.U.: 10%. The most comparable figure in America is in people over 12: 39.8%. Proportionally, more Americans have used cocaine than Portuguese have used marijuana.

    Between 2001 and 2006 in Portugal, rates of lifetime use of any illegal drug among seventh through ninth graders fell from 14.1% to 10.6%; drug use in older teens also declined.

    Lifetime heroin use among 16-to-18-year-olds fell from 2.5% to 1.8% (although there was a slight increase in marijuana use in that age group).

    New HIV infections in drug users fell by 17% between 1999 and 2003, and deaths related to heroin and similar drugs were cut by more than half.

    In addition, the number of people on methadone and buprenorphine treatment for drug addiction rose to 14,877 from 6,040, after decriminalization, and money saved on enforcement allowed for increased funding of drug-free treatment as well.

    http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1893946,00.html


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    #363
    IvyTheTerrible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    "They told us to cut down the telly; what will she watch?"

    Never hear of saorview, eejit?


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    #364
    neris
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    IvyTheTerrible wrote: »
    "They told us to cut down the telly; what will she watch?"

    Never hear of saorview, eejit?

    ah yeah but then they dont have sky sports for their fellas and they wont be able to keep up with the tat on MTV. Do these thicks think MABS were going to sort out their debts for them. As for the eejit owing 1k to O2 for braodband what a muppet


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    #365
    Callan57
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    They seem to think MABS will just take their bills & pay them off .. including SKY!

    What a lot of these people need most is household management trianing - they really could use that battleaxe from the ICA :rolleyes:


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    #366
    sudzs
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    Fr Iggy... suicide... drug addiction. Is this Liveline??!


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    #367
    neris
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    sudzs wrote: »
    Fr Iggy... suicide... drug addiction. Is this Liveline??!

    hes only having a practice run for this afternoon


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    #368
    neris
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    Callan57 wrote: »
    They seem to think MABS will just take their bills & pay them off .. including SKY!

    What a lot of these people need most is household management trianing - they really could use that battleaxe from the ICA :rolleyes:

    they also sound like the kind of people who have been out of work since the day they left school


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    #369
    artful_codger
    Registered Users Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭artful_codger


    If the Americans want to find out what the Irish Government are up to, they probably just listen in to Merkels phone again.


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    #370
    neris
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    that has to be the worst alex ferguson impression


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    #371
    Callan57
    Registered Users Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭Callan57


    David Quinn ... time for me to exit :mad:


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    #372
    artful_codger
    Registered Users Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭artful_codger


    "Do you beg anymore?"
    - "No, because i am happy now".

    Yea, that and Social Welfare.


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    #373
    Lapin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Maria is rapidly losing her Roma identity by developing a Cork accent.

    Don't do it Maria.

    You'll be despised and shunned wherever you go in this country if that happens !


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    #374
    Callan57
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    MLOD ... Oh dear God I'm not able for this cr1p after a bank holiday
    I'm off to Pat


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    #375
    Lapin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Callan57 wrote: »
    MLOD ... Oh dear God I'm not able for this cr1p after a bank holiday
    I'm off to Pat

    Thats what I did when O'Rourke gave us the heads up.

    Davenport was on doing one of his regular google readings.


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    #376
    IvyTheTerrible
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    Oh god is this the child found in the car boot in France, terrible story.


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    #377
    Bellerstring
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    Could this guy not have used bottled water to fill his coffee machine??


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    #378
    Callan57
    Registered Users Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭Callan57


    Oh Good Lord the Iona Institute - the everything was perfect in the good old days guy when people did what they were told and didn't question anything. :mad:

    That's me out of here


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    #379
    spank_inferno
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    What sin did Cork people commit to be inflicted with that accent?...... Like....


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    #380
    IvyTheTerrible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    spank_inferno wrote: »
    What sin did Cork people commit to be inflicted with that accent?...... Like....
    I dunno, ya know


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    #381
    artful_codger
    Registered Users Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭artful_codger


    Wow this Revenue person is exceptionally arrogant. No apologies so far...


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    #382
    neris
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    artful_codger wrote: »
    Wow this Revenue person is exceptionally arrogant. No apologies so far...

    Mod Edit: Play nice please


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    #383
    spank_inferno
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭spank_inferno


    artful_codger wrote: »
    ......

    What should she apologise for?


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    #384
    Callan57
    Registered Users Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭Callan57


    Both patronising & arrogant ... pity she couldn't draft a letter in "plain english".
    Sean is right why couldn't she pick a few people off the street & see did they understand the letter before sending it out. No - she asked a "few friends" all equally arrogant senior civil servants no doubt :mad:


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    #385
    artful_codger
    Registered Users Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭artful_codger


    She's reading from the script instead of addressing the actual issue - people are not receiving replies to their correspondence from Revenue.


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    #386
    artful_codger
    Registered Users Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭artful_codger


    spank_inferno wrote: »
    What should she apologise for?

    People who correspond with Revenue and are ignored.


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    #387
    signostic
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    spank_inferno wrote: »
    What should she apologise for?

    Badly composed letters in english.


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    #388
    Callan57
    Registered Users Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭Callan57


    signostic wrote: »
    Badly composed letters in english.

    & not having a proper system in place to respond to queries in a timely fashion


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    #389
    Pelvis Parsley
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    Paddy the Hat went to Neilstown. And survived.


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    #390
    spank_inferno
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭spank_inferno


    techno in the background.

    aah.... the lilting music of dublin.


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    #391
    Roger_007
    Registered Users Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    The letter should have carried a clear warning that if you used the credit/debit card option, your payment would be taken immediately. It looks like they did not do that deliberately in the same way that insurance companies send out renewal notices hoping that some people will pay without querying the amount quoted.
    I would regard this as sharp practice of the kind that Ryanair would be proud of!


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