Sean O'Rourke Today Show

michael999999

Callan57 wrote: »

There is a fatalism creeping in about the HSE & a view emerging that nothing can be done to improve, let alone, fix it.
It has become a gigantic money swallowing monster

Micheal martin should have stuck to getting reports made up!

artful_codger

georgesstreet wrote: »

So your employer is playing you the radio from a computer? Is this then fecd into some sort of amplifiction system and you have no control over it at all?

I don't even know what you're asking now. I listen to radio (whichever aren't blocked by the firewall) through my work PC and headphones.

georgesstreet

artful_codger wrote: »

I don't even know what you're asking now. I listen to radio (whichever aren't blocked by the firewall) through my work PC and headphones.

Ah, I see. So you had, in fact, an option to turn off the radio, or remove your headphones, but instead you prefer to keep listening to something why you didn't like. Sorry, I thought your employer compelled you to listen, and you had no choice.

michael999999

georgesstreet wrote: »

Ah, I see. So you had, in fact, an option to turn off the radio, or remove your headphones, but instead you prefer to keep listening to something why you didn't like. Sorry, I thought your employer compelled you to listen, and you had no choice.

Take it to p.m. please!

artful_codger

georgesstreet wrote: »

Ah, I see. So you had, in fact, an option to turn off the radio, or remove your headphones, but instead you prefer to keep listening to something why you didn't like. Sorry, I thought your employer compelled you to listen, and you had no choice.

I am giving an opinion on the over-coverage of JFK on RTE. If you don't like my opinion, you can close your browser. Nobody is compelling you to read this thread.

Looking at your posts in the Radio forum, you seem to enjoy taking the wrong end of the stick and proceeding from there. Normally i'd call that Trolling, but from your non-radio posts i think you just enjoy taking things up the wrong way.

Lapin

georgesstreet wrote: »

Ah, I see. So you had, in fact, an option to turn off the radio, or remove your headphones, but instead you prefer to keep listening to something why you didn't like. Sorry, I thought your employer compelled you to listen, and you had no choice.

Yet another newcomer to boards who has yet to grasp the concept of a discussion forum.

Give it time. You'll figure it out yet.

georgesstreet

Lapin wrote: »

Yet another newcomer to boards who has yet to grasp the concept of a discussion forum.

Give it time. You'll figure it out yet.

It seems there is a lot to figure out, as the evidence is there are different reason why some come here. Quite a few seem to like to listen to things they profess to not enjoy, and then rush here to say how dreadful it all is. I simply dont understand why (i) anyone chooses to listen to something they don't like and then (ii) why they have to persevere with it only to get some vicarious pleasure from telling everyone how dreadful it was.

As you say "yet another newcomer" that indicates I am not the first to find this unusual behaviour for adults.

There are plenty of guys here who like to discuss and who don't feel compelled to listen to programmes which they then say they don't enjoy. Its only a minority who one supposes get some sort of vicarious pleasure out of regularly saying how awful it all was.

HeidiHeidi

georgesstreet wrote: »

It seems there is a lot to figure out, as the evidence is there are different reason why some come here. Quite a few seem to like to listen to things they profess to not enjoy, and then rush here to say how dreadful it all is. I simply dont understand why (i) anyone chooses to listen to something they don't like and then (ii) why they have to persevere with it only to get some vicarious pleasure from telling everyone how dreadful it was.

As you say "yet another newcomer" that indicates I am not the first to find this unusual behaviour for adults.

There are plenty of guys here who like to discuss and who don't feel compelled to listen to programmes which they then say they don't enjoy. Its only a minority who one supposes get some sort of vicarious pleasure out of regularly saying how awful it all was.

Try the Marian Finnucane thread sometime

(I don't understand it either - except for Liveline which I (and others) find compelling, additctive, UTTERLY maddening and frustrating listening, and which will some day cause me a heart attack)

georgesstreet

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Try the Marian Finnucane thread sometime

(I don't understand it either - except for Liveline which I (and others) find compelling, additctive, UTTERLY maddening and frustrating listening, and which will some day cause me a heart attack)

I have not listened to liveline for some time, as its a grubby little program where the presenter likes to use the old tabloid formula to pitch oner person against the other, and he acts like the ringmaster trying to provoke them into a fight.

Why anyone of reasonable intelligence wants to spend their time listening to such nasty stuff is a mystery.

Hermy

georgesstreet wrote: »

Anyone who thinks that is "disgraceful" must conclude that they think the taxpayers should pay all bills from all hospitals.

If you bothered to read my post you would have seen that I made specific reference to children's hospital's.

georgesstreet wrote: »

Why not tell us what you do believe?

I believe the banks should be left to fend for themselves. Their profits are private and so too should be their losses.

Our children's hospitals are an entirely different matter and no expense should be spared in ensuring that they are adequately funded so that they can continue to help some of the most vulnerable in society.

HeidiHeidi

georgesstreet wrote: »

I have not listened to liveline for some time, as its a grubby little program where the presenter likes to use the old tabloid formula to pitch oner person against the other, and he acts like the ringmaster trying to provoke them into a fight.

Why anyone of reasonable intelligence wants to spend their time listening to such nasty stuff is a mystery.

I agree with you 100%, and often ask myself the same question

Callan57

Hermy wrote: »

If you bothered to read my post you would have seen that I made specific reference to children's hospital's.



I believe the banks should be left to fend for themselves. Their profits are private and so too should be their losses.

Our children's hospitals are an entirely different matter and no expense should be spared in ensuring that they are adequately funded so that they can continue to help some of the most vulnerable in society.

Really? So who do you think should take the cuts to provide this adequate, unlimited funding to one particular group? The maternity hospitals, general hospitals, cancer care, psychiatric services, elderly support, special needs etc etc etc ... which ones eh?
Get a grip ... we don't have a fairy godmother & choices have to be made. We all hate to see sick children but equally I hate to see elderly or ill adults suffering.

Hermy

Callan57 wrote: »

...unlimited funding...

Just as I never said 'all the hospitals' so too I never said 'unlimited funding.'

Callan57 wrote: »

...choices have to be made...

Choices were made and the banks got the money.

Callan57

Hermy wrote: »

Just as I never said 'all the hospitals' so too I never said 'unlimited funding.'

Choices were made and the banks got the money.

You still don't say what you define as "adequate"
I would still contend that where there are finite resources then choices must be made ... you seem not to want to make any choices just "adequately" resource everything, which by definition is impossible unless you have located that fairy godmother.

Hermy

Callan57 wrote: »

You still don't say what you define as "adequate"
I would still contend that where there are finite resources then choices must be made ... you seem not to want to make any choices just "adequately" resource everything, which by definition is impossible unless you have located that fairy godmother.

Why the use of the word 'everything' when I was specific.
My choice would be the children's hospitals over the banks.
And regarding fairy godmothers and other such nonsense the banks were able to find her when they needed her.

Harry Angstrom

Callan57 wrote: »

You still don't say what you define as "adequate"
I would still contend that where there are finite resources then choices must be made ... you seem not to want to make any choices just "adequately" resource everything, which by definition is impossible unless you have located that fairy godmother.

Our health system has always been in a mess, even during the boom. I remember whenever Mary Harney appeared on Primetime, she'd basically read off a pre-prepared script about how much money was being spent, rather than ever properly analyse if the money was being spent in the right places and whether they were getting value for money.

The problem with this country is there are too many vested interests. We can see this in the way that branded and generic drugs are multiples more expensive in this country than they are in other countries. It's as much to do with the Government being scared sh!tless that pharmaceutical companies will move out of this country if the Government ever decide to put pressure on them to lower their prices. It's the same with the American multinationals such as Google. They have this country over a barrel, and the Government just rolls over like a compliant lapdog, and allows them to do whatever they like.

michael999999

Callan57 wrote: »

You still don't say what you define as "adequate"
I would still contend that where there are finite resources then choices must be made ... you seem not to want to make any choices just "adequately" resource everything, which by definition is impossible unless you have located that fairy godmother.

The banks and developers certainly found there fairy godmother in that crook ahern and he's party of bandits!

georgesstreet

michael999999 wrote: »

The banks and developers certainly found there fairy godmother in that crook ahern and he's party of bandits!

It seems eventually the old reliable, which was responsible for all the wrongs in Ireland for many decades, namely "D'inglish" has eventually been replaced by "banks and developers".

Hermy

You seize on the irrelevant and avoid the substantive.

georgesstreet

Hermy wrote: »

You seize on the irrelevant and avoid the substantive.

True, but at least I have a sense of humour

SEPT 23 1989

Imagine seeing and going through all that and then being treated like crap by the "heroes" of the Republic when you arrived home:(

IvyTheTerrible

An unpaid ad for Motivation Weight Loss Clinics. Great.

Lapin

SOR is having a right cut at this weight management salesman over the cost of the programme.

And rightly so.

Anyone charging overweight people to help them lose weight by selling them supplements, books CDs and charging hundreds of euro for a course is a scam merchant.

More fools those who sign up for it.



After 50 programmes I think Seán is winning the battle with PK.

Ciaran_B

It's a pity the weight loss stuff wasn't at the start of the show. It would have been nice if Sean had a bit more time to rip into them.

Interview with the WW2 guy was great.

Happyman42

Lapin wrote: »

SOR is having a right cut at this weight management salesman over the cost of the programme.

And rightly so.

Anyone charging overweight people to help them lose weight by selling them supplements, books CDs and charging hundreds of euro for a course is a scam merchant.

More fools those who sign up for it.



After 50 programmes I think Seán is winning the battle with PK.

I know somebody who spent 8000 with these guys, still the same weight today.

IvyTheTerrible

Lapin wrote: »

SOR is having a right cut at this weight management salesman over the cost of the programme.

And rightly so.

Anyone charging overweight people to help them lose weight by selling them supplements, books CDs and charging hundreds of euro for a course is a scam merchant.

More fools those who sign up for it.



After 50 programmes I think Seán is winning the battle with PK.

I rolled my eyes when he said that "exercising more and eating less" doesn't work.

Happyman42

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

I rolled my eyes when he said that "exercising more and eating less" doesn't work.

I lost 3 stone doing just that, while my friend lost 8000 yo yo's.

Callan57

I'd be willing to bet that if there was no private health insurance the public system would have been sorted out long ago ... the private option means that a lot of as George Colley once said "the well heeled, articulate" are not exposed to the mess that is the public system and are able to avoid the waiting list etc.

georgesstreet

Callan57 wrote: »

I'd be willing to bet that if there was no private health insurance the public system would have been sorted out long ago ... the private option means that a lot of as George Colley once said "the well heeled, articulate" are not exposed to the mess that is the public system and are able to avoid the waiting list etc.

I am afraid if you think the "well heeled, articulate" are not exposed to at least part of the mess is simply untrue. For acute cases, (as opposed to elective) the route to hospital is via A&E in a public hospital, and each case is dealt with on its relative merits.

If there was no private health system the public system could not cope, but the one thing we have learnt is that no matter how much money we spend on the public system, not much seems to improve, and simply throwing money at the problem, which has been the boast of every government, is not a solution.

constitutionus

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

I rolled my eyes when he said that "exercising more and eating less" doesn't work.

WTF ?

i lost a stone just by cutting out the soft drinks and getting off the bus half an hour's walk earlier from the house.

thats mad stuff for someone to come out with. i missed the show but hope sean ripped into them.



decided to listen to sean today. pats going on about IVF, which while i know is an emotive issue, means feck all to me so im off him today.