The Pat Kenny Show

2smiggy

Mary Lou 'we will be the best opposition ever'

Pat does not seem too impressed, to say the least

padd b1975

2smiggy wrote: »

Mary Lou 'we will be the best opposition ever'

Pat does not seem too impressed, to say the least

Loved how he only read out the critical texts despite being most likely bombarded with pro Shinner guff from the usual suspects.

2smiggy

listening to Eamon Ryan on now, would make a person wish that SF could have come to some sort of an agreement with FF or FG.

meeeeh

2smiggy wrote: »

listening to Eamon Ryan on now, would make a person wish that SF could have come to some sort of an agreement with FF or FG.

Eh no.

Greens will not be cheap for business but they won't be destructive.

drunkmonkey

2smiggy wrote: »

listening to Eamon Ryan on now, would make a person wish that SF could have come to some sort of an agreement with FF or FG.

Eamon Ryan is the fall guy, I'm surprised the greens are falling for the trap.

2smiggy

meeeeh wrote: »

Eh no.

Greens will not be cheap for business but they won't be destructive.

only time will tell. the 'not not being cheap for business' part could be destructive enough for lots of people. Pity FF/FG could not just agree a deal with the independents. All a bit of a mess really

Callan57

2smiggy wrote: »

Mary Lou 'we will be the best opposition ever'

Pat does not seem too impressed, to say the least

Sounds like the "stable genius" from across the Atlantic :rolleyes:

mgn

2smiggy wrote: »

only time will tell. the 'not not being cheap for business' part could be destructive enough for lots of people. Pity FF/FG could not just agree a deal with the independents. All a bit of a mess really

FF/FG could agree with the independents if the wanted, the wanted the Greens from day one because it's just easier to shove the Greens around.

BillyBird

mgn wrote: »

FF/FG could agree with the independents if the wanted, the wanted the Greens from day one because it's just easier to shove the Greens around.

Easier to negotiate with one group than 12 disparate indos all who want different things. Also easier to deal with them while in Government, the indos will hardly operate under any sort of whip.

serfboard

BillyBird wrote: »

Easier to negotiate with one group than 12 disparate indos all who want different things.

When you consider that the independents include the likes of Michael Lowry and the Healy-Raes then 12 desperate indos might be a better way to describe them ...

2smiggy

nothing wrong with Michael Healy Rae if you listen to him speak. Better than the vast majority of those in the Dail

Fann Linn

meeeeh wrote: »

Eh no.

Greens will not be cheap for business but they won't be destructive.

Would that be as destructive a la FF destructive., IE, dropping a country off a cliff?

meeeeh

Fann Linn wrote: »

Would that be as destructive a la FF destructive., IE, dropping a country off a cliff?

With SF there would be no cliff to drop off.

daithi7

2smiggy wrote: »

Mary Lou 'we will be the best opposition ever'

Pat does not seem too impressed, to say the least

As well he shouldn't be imho.

They weren't exactly good opposition while Brexit was going through Stormont since 2016, were they!? In fact, they weren't even at work!! They were marked absent, being paid full whack, while the most important & drastic political changes were being imposed on their electorate. They couldn't have given a flying fup.... less than useless.

Based on their record in opposition, they will be woeful & neglectful of their duties, operating mostly by soundbytes, we'll be "lucky" if they even show up!! ))

BPKS

Good man Steve Wall.

After playing a clip of the Sex Pistols, Wall said that its great to see the likes of Murder Capital and Fontaines DC coming through as music in the last 10 years has gotten "namby pamby".

Pat couldn't get him off the line quick enough after he said that!

BPKS

Pat just got Stanley Johnson on. Stanley is the father of Boris.

Stanley wrote a book about a virus some 40 years ago and that's why he was on.

After months of criticising and often ridiculing Boris and his governments response to the Covid-19 crisis, Pat did not challenge Stanley when he said that the British Government did a good job of handling the crisis by not allowing the NHS get overwhelmed.

I'm surprised - I thought he might have the balls to say something to Johnson but he didn't. A joke about "unruly hair" was as critical as Pat got.

murpho999

BPKS wrote: »

Pat just got Stanley Johnson on. Stanley is the father of Boris.

Stanley wrote a book about a virus some 40 years ago and that's why he was on.

After months of criticising and often ridiculing Boris and his governments response to the Covid-19 crisis, Pat did not challenge Stanley when he said that the British Government did a good job of handling the crisis by not allowing the NHS get overwhelmed.

I'm surprised - I thought he might have the balls to say something to Johnson but he didn't. A joke about "unruly hair" was as critical as Pat got.

I heard it and was terrible stuff.

Weak from Pat and shows how he just sticks to his list of questions and doesn't really listen to and engage with who he's interviewing.

Either way I do not see why that man who has said bad things about Ireland in the past was invited on the show.

EmmetSpiceland

murpho999 wrote: »

I heard it and was terrible stuff.

Weak from Pat and shows how he just sticks to his list of questions and doesn't really listen to and engage with who he's interviewing.

Either way I do not see why that man who has said bad things about Ireland in the past was invited on the show.

Could it have been the “case” that an agreement with the interviewee was arranged beforehand that they will not answer questions on anything other than the topic they are on for?

Pat also pointed out that the elder Johnson did apologise for his remarks about how Thatcher would have dealt with Ireland during the Brexit “negotiations”.

BPKS

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Could it have been the “case” that an agreement with the interviewee was arranged beforehand that they will not answer questions on anything other than the topic they are on for?

Pat also pointed out that the elder Johnson did apologise for his remarks about how Thatcher would have dealt with Ireland during the Brexit “negotiations”.

Then don't have Stanley Johnson on. Especially when Pat has been so vociferous in his criticism of and disdain for Boris Johnson.

It would be akin to Pat interviewing a family member of Donald Trump and saying shag-all about Donald when he spent the last 4 years bitching and moaning about him ad naseum.

Callan57

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Could it have been the “case” that an agreement with the interviewee was arranged beforehand that they will not answer questions on anything other than the topic they are on for?

Pat also pointed out that the elder Johnson did apologise for his remarks about how Thatcher would have dealt with Ireland during the Brexit “negotiations”.

If that was the case it's the end of Pat's much vaunted "broadcaster integrity" :mad:

serfboard

murpho999 wrote: »

shows how he just sticks to his list of questions and doesn't really listen to and engage with who he's interviewing.

I've never thought that about Pat Kenny.

As others have said, the lack of a more thorough questioning may have been as a result of terms and conditions around Stanley Johnson being interviewed.

If that wasn't the case, Pat should have questioned him more thoroughly. If it was the case, then Pat should never have agreed to do the interview.

Either way Pat, your fans are disappointed!

Charles Babbage

BPKS wrote: »

Then don't have Stanley Johnson on. Especially when Pat has been so vociferous in his criticism of and disdain for Boris Johnson.

It would be akin to Pat interviewing a family member of Donald Trump and saying shag-all about Donald when he spent the last 4 years bitching and moaning about him ad naseum.

No. If someone wrote a book about a virus then that is topical in its own right, they should be able to talk about that and not have to defend their whole family.

All of this stuff about broadcaster integrity is a bit over the top.
Now it might not be great use of Kenny's skills but it is a 3 hour show, it doesn't have to be non stop controversy.

serfboard

Charles Babbage wrote: »

If someone wrote a book about a virus then that is topical in its own right, they should be able to talk about that and not have to defend their whole family.

I think that any reasonable listener, hearing that Stanley Johnson is coming on, would expect that questions about the current political situation in the UK would be asked. Even if he was not the Prime Minister's father, he is a former MEP, a former European Commission employee, a general election candidate in the UK as recently as 2005 and he supported Remain in the 2016 referendum.

He also has some of his own daft opinions which he could have been asked about too.

hotmail.com

serfboard wrote: »

I think that any reasonable listener, hearing that Stanley Johnson is coming on, would expect that questions about the current political situation in the UK would be asked. Even if he was not the Prime Minister's father, he is a former MEP, a former European Commission employee, a general election candidate in the UK as recently as 2005 and he supported Remain in the 2016 referendum.

He also has some of his own daft opinions which he could have been asked about too.

But who cares what his Dad thinks about all this?

I actually wanted to hear more about the book and the virus. Pat discretely couldn't wait to ask about Boris.

Callan57

Charles Babbage wrote: »

No. If someone wrote a book about a virus then that is topical in its own right, they should be able to talk about that and not have to defend their whole family.

All of this stuff about broadcaster integrity is a bit over the top.
Now it might not be great use of Kenny's skills but it is a 3 hour show, it doesn't have to be non stop controversy.

He was obviously on to flog his book and IMO if he wanted to get the publicity & dictate the terms of the interview he should have been told to "jog on". :rolleyes:

hotmail.com

Callan57 wrote: »

He was obviously on to flog his book and IMO if he wanted to get the publicity & dictate the terms of the interview he should have been told to "jog on". :rolleyes:

This should certainly be the case for elected politicians, business people, union leaders etc. Stanley is a private citizen the last time I checked and quite old as well.

Tell me how

hotmail.com wrote: »

This should certainly be the case for elected politicians, business people, union leaders etc. Stanley is a private citizen the last time I checked and quite old as well.

What has his age got to do with it?

HeidiHeidi

Callan57 wrote: »

He was obviously on to flog his book and IMO if he wanted to get the publicity & dictate the terms of the interview he should have been told to "jog on". :rolleyes:

Aren't most radio guests on the likes of the PK, Today show on to flog something?

Callan57

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Aren't most radio guests on the likes of the PK, Today show on to flog something?

But they aren't allowed dictate the terms of the interview are they?

hotmail.com

Tell me how wrote: »

What has his age got to do with it?

Just imagine if Leo's Dad was being interviewed on UK radio and being asked hard questions about Leo's 3 years as Taoiseach, if he went on to discuss a book he wrote.

And yes his age does matter. People here wanted Pat to pester an elderly man about his son's job.