Gay Pride Parade

Henlars67

What's the point?

I don't understand it at all.

Nobody cares if you're gay/straight/bi or anything else.

Why feel the need to shout it from the rooftops.

As far as I'm concerned gay people are no different to me except for their sexual preference.

I'd have no problem supporting them in a protest against marriage inequality, but as far as I'm concerned Pride parades/marches are just ridiculous.

I'm sure it's a good day out and I hope they all enjoyed themselves, but it's just nonsense.

cuana

I don't care either but ehhhhh its there choice

Real Life

Henlars67 wrote: »

What's the point?

I don't understand it at all.

Nobody cares if you're gay/straight/bi or anything else.

Why feel the need to shout it from the rooftops.

As far as I'm concerned gay people are no different to me except for their sexual preference.

I'd have no problem supporting them in a protest against marriage inequality, but as far as I'm concerned Pride parades/marches are just ridiculous.

I'm sure it's a good day out and I hope they all enjoyed themselves, but it's just nonsense.

A lot of people do

By that logic, the St. Patricks Day parade is completely defunct too.

JustAddWater

Candie wrote: »

By that logic, the St. Patricks Day parade is completely defunct too.

Yeah, nobody cares if your Irish

Femme_Fatale

In 1992, it was criminal to be gay in this country (and still is around the world) - I guess it's to celebrate how things have changed since, thanks to gay people fighting and struggling to be treated decently.

It's really annoying when people who aren't gay and don't get this, tell gay people they're being ridiculous. Shut up - you don't have a clue.

Boscoirl

The function of the paddy s day parade is to give you a head start in the pub, while all the saps are out watching it

Norwesterner

Had a point maybe in the 70's when they were vilified and abused.
Don't get it at all today.
They're the most cosseted demographic in Europe (apart from maybe the jewish community), with E.U funding and offices for any hair-brained whacky agenda.

Sir Osis of Liver.

They have us over a barrel,


with no lube.

Norwesterner

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

In 1992, it was criminal to be gay in this country (and still is around the world) - I guess it's to celebrate how things have changed since, thanks to gay people fighting and struggling to be treated decently.

It's really annoying when people who aren't gay and don't get this, tell gay people they're being ridiculous. Shut up - you don't have a clue.

It wasn't criminal to be gay in 1992.
The act of sodomy was criminalized (though trying finding a case where this law was actually enforced.)

Norwesterner

Norwesterner wrote: »

Had a point maybe in the 70's when they were vilified and abused.
Don't get it at all today.
They're the most cosseted demographic in Europe (apart from maybe the jewish community), with E.U funding and offices for any hair-brained whacky agenda.

And so it starts.

krudler

Norwesterner wrote: »

Had a point maybe in the 70's when they were vilified and abused.
Don't get it at all today.
They're the most cosseted demographic in Europe (apart from maybe the jewish community), with E.U funding and offices for any hair-brained whacky agenda.

I know plenty of gay people who have gotten abuse on nights out, for no reason other than someone twigged they were gay, so you're talking out of your hole.

Norwesterner

krudler wrote: »

I know plenty of gay people who have gotten abuse on nights out, for no reason other than someone twigged they were gay, so you're talking out of your hole.

I've been abused in nights out when people hear my Nordie accent.
Meeting arseholes is not a reason for a focus group.
Get over it, sister.

Logical Fallacy

Norwesterner wrote: »

I've been abused in nights out when people hear my Nordie accent.
Meeting arseholes is not a reason for a focus group.
Get over it, sister.

From what I hear you guys has parades and marches all the time. lol

The Backwards Man

Norwesterner wrote: »

I've been abused in nights out when people hear my Nordie accent.
Meeting arseholes is not a reason for a focus group.
Get over it, sister.

I've got the ride on nights out when people heard my Nordie accent. It's not the same thing.

You don't have to look far in threads here to see homophobic undertones. It's still a big problem.

Norwesterner

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I've got the ride on nights out when people heard my Nordie accent. It's not the same thing.

You don't have to look far in threads here to see homophobic undertones. It's still a big problem.

Yes, it's worked both "pro and cons" at times.
Same as being gay I suppose.
Do you think wearing a pink-leotard and categorizing yourself into a sexual bracket with inclusive parades etc helps combat homophobia?

Most gays I know just get on with their lives as normal people in their day to day mundane world.
Like the rest of us.

Henlars67

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I've got the ride on nights out when people heard my Nordie accent. It's not the same thing.

You don't have to look far in threads here to see homophobic undertones. It's still a big problem.

If that was directed at me, then I'm no homophobe.

I don't believe gay people to be any different from me, apart from their sexual preference.

Therefore I don't see why they should hold a parade, which screams 'We are different'.

Also, 'homophobic' is one of the most ridiculous words in the English language.
Theses so called 'homophobic' people are bigots. It isn't an irrational fear they have.

If it was then they could do something to overcome it.

Tusky

Homophobia happens, gay-bashing happens, marriage inequality happens, hence, Gay Pride happens.

Be glad that you treat all people equally, but don't be so ignorant to the fact that others don't.

The Backwards Man

Henlars67 wrote: »

If that was directed at me, then I'm no homophobe.

I don't believe gay people to be any different from me, apart from their sexual preference.

Therefore I don't see why they should hold a parade, which screams 'We are different'.

Also, 'homophobic' is one of the most ridiculous words in the English language.
Theses so called 'homophobic' people are bigots. It isn't an irrational fear they have.

If it was then they could do something to overcome it.

I wasn't directed the comment at you, sorry if you thought that.

Why shouldn't there be a parade though? Every single one of us is different, what's wrong with that, as long as we are treated equally?

barone

couldnt care less if someone is gay tbh, but having parades dancing around in underwear on a high street in broad daylight isnt gonna get ya respected by anyone.. i mean come on.. would ya wear your underwear to do your shoppin?

i know not all gay people dress that way on parade but type gay pride parade inta google and see what images ya get,hardly screams respect us to me..

ya dont see straight folk advertising there sexuality by having parades in their underwear .. be proud yes,but have a bit of common sense too.

Norwesterner

The group most discriminated aainst today is heterosexual, middle aged, divorced fathers.
Gays and lesbians are put up on pedal stools and wrapped in cotton wool by the State, media and society in comparison.

Chattastrophe!

Norwesterner wrote: »

Gays and lesbians are put up on pedal stools and wrapped in cotton wool by the State, media and society in comparison.

Pedal stools. Brilliant!

Henlars67

Henlars67 wrote: »

Also, 'homophobic' is one of the most ridiculous words in the English language.
Theses so called 'homophobic' people are bigots. It isn't an irrational fear they have.

There are (usually fundamental Christian and other religious groups) people who truly believe that allowing gay marriage will bring about the downfall of society.

The vast majority of rational people would consider that to be an almost laughably irrational fear. Almost, if it were at all amusing.

Norwesterner

Candie wrote: »

There are (usually fundamental Christian and other religious groups) people who truly believe that allowing gay marriage will bring about the downfall of society.

The vast majority of rational people would consider that to be an almost laughably irrational fear. Almost, if it were at all amusing.

I've no problem with gay "marriage" in a Town Hall, but some activists want the State to force religious bodies to marry gays in Churches, Mosques and Synagogues.
This is totally unacceptable and gross intrusion by the State.

LizT

Norwesterner wrote: »

I've no problem with gay "marriage" in a Town Hall, but some activists want the State to force religious bodies to marry gays in Churches, Mosques and Synagogues.
This is totally unacceptable and gross intrusion by the State.

Out of interest, why did you put marriage in quote marks?

eviltwin

I know a kid who got seven shades beat out of him when he came out. The ones who attacked him were his former friends and he was attacked for no other reason than he was gay.

I wish I could say this happened somewhere else or in another age before we became enlightened but it was only 10 months ago in a dublin suburb.

For kids like him, and the many more who hide their true sexuality out of fear of a similar attack or out of fear of being disowned Pride is vital.

LizT

LizT wrote: »

Out of interest, why did you put marriage in quote marks?

To inadvertently red flag his agenda?

endacl

Norwesterner wrote: »

The group most discriminated aainst today is heterosexual, middle aged, divorced fathers.
Gays and lesbians are put up on pedal stools and wrapped in cotton wool by the State, media and society in comparison.

Agenda? Would you like salt and vinegar with that enormous shoulder chip?

'I feel I've been treated inequitably. So everybody else can just go fcuk off with their celebrations'?

Jericho.

Henlars67 wrote: »

What's the point?

I don't understand it at all.

Nobody cares if you're gay/straight/bi or anything else.

Why feel the need to shout it from the rooftops.

As far as I'm concerned gay people are no different to me except for their sexual preference.

I'd have no problem supporting them in a protest against marriage inequality, but as far as I'm concerned Pride parades/marches are just ridiculous.

I'm sure it's a good day out and I hope they all enjoyed themselves, but it's just nonsense.

They still don't have equal rights in terms of not being able to get married and stuff. Of course they should be out marching. Fair play to them.

endacl

Norwesterner wrote: »

some activists want the State to force religious bodies to marry gays in Churches, Mosques and Synagogues.
This is totally unacceptable and gross intrusion by the State.

Bollocks. Find one example.

Google is thataway >>>>>>

eviltwin

Norwesterner wrote: »

The group most discriminated aainst today is heterosexual, middle aged, divorced fathers.
.

Do you fall into this group yourself by any chance?

No one is stopping them getting together, forming a group and organising a protest/parade if they want it. If they can't be bothered then that is there look out.

miamee

I was on O'Connell Street today to watch the parade. Just as it was getting near, some oul lad came over to the woman standing next to me to give her a leaflet and tell her she should turn to God soon or she'd be going to hell when she died. He said *some* people are already going to hell for the way they are living their lives.
That was just one small incident. To claim that all gay people are treated equally and with respect is absolute rubbish. You may treat everyone equally, your friends and family might too but don't for a second think that there aren't a shower of assholes in every town in this country who'd gladly kick the **** out of someone because of their sexuality or anything else that might make them stand out as different.

ShagNastii

Was always pretty apathetic towards gay pride (and the need for a gay pride). Not due to any kind of homophobic stance but I suppose I it had/has little relevance to my life. Let them do their thing I'll do mine, kinda thing.

But today I was in town as I had to get my phone fixed. I dropped it in and had an hour or two to pass, so I went to O Connell street basically for a nosey.

It was great. It was a joy to see so many people with mile wide grins all having a ball. All very decadent, colorful and flamboyant. Yet still quite understated, the whole event shining with an overall undercurrent of love and good vides.

Of course you get a handful of leather clad types grinding up on each other which might not impress many (the people who generally believe this to be pride). But parade really highlights that this is the exception and the people involved are just normal people. They are our brothers and our sisters. They are the girls we went to school. They are the guys that we work with.

These people who really haven't the chance day to day to fully fit in due to their sexually and the hangups others have about it. OK we could argue that they are far from being repressed. I saw a lot of people who I imagine were very "proud" and felt totally included. The pride festival I think could be viewed as a pat on the back from the city of Dublin/people of Ireland saying you're OK with us.

With all the crap and negativity doing the rounds anything positive should be welcomed in society.

jam_mac_jam

Henlars67 wrote: »

What's the point?

I don't understand it at all.

Nobody cares if you're gay/straight/bi or anything else.

Why feel the need to shout it from the rooftops.

As far as I'm concerned gay people are no different to me except for their sexual preference.

I'd have no problem supporting them in a protest against marriage inequality, but as far as I'm concerned Pride parades/marches are just ridiculous.

I'm sure it's a good day out and I hope they all enjoyed themselves, but it's just nonsense.

I suppose they still have to march as long as there are people like you minding what they do? Why do you care that they march?

Do you really think that nobody minds if you are gay/straight/bi?

endacl

ShagNastii wrote: »

The pride festival I think could be viewed as a pat on the back from the city of Dublin/people of Ireland saying you're OK with are us.

Henlars67

Jericho. wrote: »

They still don't have equal rights in terms of not being able to get married and stuff. Of course they should be out marching. Fair play to them.

But this isn't a protest march against marriage inequality, it's a march which just says "We're gay"

dr.bollocko

Norwestener banned.

Just...
Jesus. Pick a reason.

krudler

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Norwestener banned.

Just...
Jesus. Pick a reason.

his Nordie accent? It's the one I'd use.

eviltwin

Henlars67 wrote: »

But this isn't a protest march against marriage inequality, it's a march which just says "We're gay"

Marriage equality is just issue, there are many more. Pride is more than just the parade, its a whole series of events. The parade is the focal point and I suppose a bit of fun, a chance for everyone involved to celebrate the event as a whole.

Besides what is the harm? Its not hurting anyone.

endacl

eviltwin wrote: »

Marriage equality is just issue, there are many more. Pride is more than just the parade, its a whole series of events. The parade is the focal point and I suppose a bit of fun, a chance for everyone involved to celebrate the event as a whole.

Besides what is the harm? Its not hurting anyone.

It hurt my eyes!! Too.......many ...... colours

:P

Henlars67

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

I suppose they still have to march as long as there are people like you minding what they do? Why do you care that they march?

Do you really think that nobody minds if you are gay/straight/bi?

I believe in equality, and a group of people who aren't treated as equal holding a parade which says "we're different" does bother me.

endacl

Henlars67 wrote: »

I believe in equality, and a group of people who aren't treated as equal holding a parade which says "we're different" does bother me.

What if they're holding it to say 'we're nearly equal'?

jam_mac_jam

Henlars67 wrote: »

I believe in equality, and a group of people who aren't treated as equal holding a parade which says "we're different" does bother me.

You can be different and equal, we don't all have to be the same or try to act like we are. Men and women should have the same rights, doesn't mean they are the same. If they were all treated the same as heterosexual people then there would be no need for a parade. The point is that you should not have to feel shame for who you are, hence pride march.

Norwesterner

Norwesterner wrote: »

The group most discriminated aainst today is heterosexual, middle aged, divorced fathers.
Gays and lesbians are put up on pedal stools and wrapped in cotton wool by the State, media and society in comparison.

The whole thing is a bit of a damp squid anyway.

downonthefarm

ahh a few gays prancing around is sound. it's a distraction from all the depressing ****e going on in this joke of a kip

LizT

Sacramento wrote: »

The whole thing is a bit of a damp squid anyway.

Loving it

Mike 1972

As previous posters have pointed out homosexuality has only been legal in Ireland for two decades and many LGBT people still regularly expereience stigma and discrimination.

Anothet reason for having Gay pride is to show solidarity with LGBT people in other parts of the world (including some EU member states) where the situation is a lot worse.

Lucena

Down with this sort of thing:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/gaypride-parade-sets-mainstream-acceptance-of-gays,351/

Wanderer2010

I genuinely think most people dont care about gays and lesbians etc. Any attacks and discrimination mostly comes from ignorance or a deep seated fear of gays. But care? When I define care I mean you think about somebodys sexuality, how wrong it is etc, how can I harm that person, why would they do that etc, care refers to actually thinking about it for longer than 30 seconds. In the daily lives of people (work, relationship, car trouble, holiday etc) we are all in base survival mode and are really a selfish race with very little room for the activities or sexualities of others, we are too busy living our own lives.

So how many people here actually CARE about the sexuality of others?

MadsL

Henlars67 wrote: »

I'd have no problem supporting them in a protest against marriage inequality, but as far as I'm concerned Pride parades/marches are just ridiculous fabulous!.

FYP

MadsL

Norwesterner wrote: »

The group most discriminated aainst today is heterosexual, middle aged, divorced fathers.
Gays and lesbians are put up on pedal stools and wrapped in cotton wool by the State, media and society in comparison.

Do they change their lubrication whilst they are up there?