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Killer Instinct Discussion Thread

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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    2gen wrote: »


    Arturo explains everything.

    He's wrong about one thing, on 360 you don't need to be permanently connected. I've done it many times on 360, done the check, started the game, then disconnected. Usually with HDR, sometimes with AE.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Nutrient


    I went on mine and done some tests

    This is basically the same set up as a 360:

    You need the original console with the profile the content was purchased OR you can assign other accounts on said system as family to allow access for other accounts with getting booted mid-game.

    You will not get booted from a game should your internet go offline.
    This will occur if you're using your profile on somebody elses system without DL licences for the game which is done with a couple clicks.

    It sucks I know, but it's not MS's ill-received 24/7 check DRM at all, blown out of proportion.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Nutrient wrote: »
    I went on mine and done some tests

    This is basically the same set up as a 360:

    You need the original console with the profile the content was purchased OR you can assign other accounts on said system as family to allow access for other accounts with getting booted mid-game.

    You will not get booted from a game should your internet go offline.
    This will occur if you're using your profile on somebody elses system without DL licences for the game which is done with a couple clicks.

    It sucks I know, but it's not MS's ill-received 24/7 check DRM at all, blown out of proportion.

    I do it all the time on the 360 we have at tournaments- AE was downloaded to another console originally, this still sounds different.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen








    some FT5s involving CdJr, Rico Suave and FilthieRich. these matches are the same as those that were on the last stream link i posted just now they have finally been uploaded to youtube.
    enjoy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Nutrient




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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen


    The long awaited patch for KI has finally been implemented. for those who might be interested in what the patch updated exactly can find the list over here

    http://shoryuken.com/2014/01/02/killer-instinct-updated-to-ver-1-1-patch-notes-released-by-double-helix-games/

    also, DH have also added the Orchid and Jago classic look (the Jago alt may have been released by accident/early)





    IMO, the costumes haven't aged well (especially Jago's) but its cool to see that DH have put in the time and effort to actually add them into the game for the retro fans.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,230 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    2gen wrote: »
    The long awaited patch for KI has finally been implemented. for those who might be interested in what the patch updated exactly can find the list over here

    http://shoryuken.com/2014/01/02/killer-instinct-updated-to-ver-1-1-patch-notes-released-by-double-helix-games/

    also, DH have also added the Orchid and Jago classic look (the Jago alt may have been released by accident/early)





    IMO, the costumes haven't aged well (especially Jago's) but its cool to see that DH have put in the time and effort to actually add them into the game for the retro fans.

    OMG will be using Orchid new costume all the times!!!


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    My god those do look terrible, so I have to say kudos to Double Helix for their work redesigning them!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Nutrient


    Oh god they rotated the free character to Sabrewulf instead of Jago...

    well fu..


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Nutrient


    In training mode they've updated the info to shows which ender you've used dmg meter wall or launcher

    Some moves show upper or lower inv, e.g thunders dp showed Projectile invul only, now shows that and upper body invinciblity

    Show what normals chain into what and etc

    lot more specific

    The numbers were never wrong just attack data left out certain points of a characters moves even if it showed in the hitboxs


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen


    http://www.twitch.tv/filthierich/b/493006119

    Ark Nutrient vs FilthieRich at 11:00 :D
    Max vs FilthieRich at 14:15


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Nutrient


    2gen wrote: »
    http://www.twitch.tv/filthierich/b/493006119

    Ark Nutrient vs FilthieRich at 11:45 :D
    Max vs FilthieRich at 14:15

    Thats cool

    his glacius was unreal, probably least played atm since he's not easy

    My Counter breaker wasn't silly at all :p

    Silly Rich


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭Ramza


    OG costumes are ugly as hell!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,230 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    Nutrient wrote: »
    Thats cool

    his glacius was unreal, probably least played atm since he's not easy

    My Counter breaker wasn't silly at all :p

    Silly Rich

    I really need to get to grips with Glacius as he is the match-up I fare worst in (doesn't help that I'm currently maining lowest tier possible Orchid :D:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen


    Loads of KI action last night (6/1/2014). i was watching two streams at a time.

    Pr Balrog leveling up with his Orchid through Ranked
    http://www.twitch.tv/pr_balrog/b/493266282

    JWonggg playing Ranked with Sabrewulf
    http://www.twitch.tv/eg_jwong/b/493273415

    FilthieRich on Ranked and some Practise mode
    http://www.twitch.tv/filthierich/b/493340481

    CdJr vs FChamp FT20 (Shadow Jago vs Glacius)
    http://www.twitch.tv/cdjr02/b/493303432

    as of right now, FChamp is still streaming, but FGTV don't give out their archives to non subscribers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Nutrient


    2gen wrote: »
    Loads of KI action last night (6/1/2014). i was watching two streams at a time.

    Pr Balrog leveling up with his Orchid through Ranked
    http://www.twitch.tv/pr_balrog/b/493266282

    JWonggg playing Ranked with Sabrewulf
    http://www.twitch.tv/eg_jwong/b/493273415

    FilthieRich on Ranked and some Practise mode
    http://www.twitch.tv/filthierich/b/493340481

    CdJr vs FChamp FT20 (Shadow Jago vs Glacius)
    http://www.twitch.tv/cdjr02/b/493303432

    as of right now, FChamp is still streaming, but FGTV don't give out their archives to non subscribers.

    Hit 17 today, the new rank system really helps with lvling, But it's still flawed somewhat

    When a 17 Can derank a lvl 2 to 1, somethings wrong:[


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,230 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    Nutrient wrote: »
    Hit 17 today, the new rank system really helps with lvling, But it's still flawed somewhat

    When a 17 Can derank a lvl 2 to 1, somethings wrong:[

    Are you doing to stick with Jago long term?

    I'm planning on rotating all 6 characters as my main. Started with Jago, have been playing Orchid and will be moving onto Thunder next week (then Sadira, Galcius and finally Sabrewulf).

    Played a L24 last night. So close to beating him :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen




    FT5 C88 Shinku (Sa) vs EG Pr Rog (Or)



    FT5 Cdjr (Ja) vs EG Pr Rog (Or)

    the devs are aware of the sound glitch are looking into it. it only really happens in replay mode.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen


    http://www.twitch.tv/teamsp00ky

    At the time of posting this, KI top 8 will be starting at any moment. The event is "Defend the North" that is being held in NY.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen


    http://instagram.com/p/jDKmyIpqL-/

    Mick Gordon's (KI music composer) latest teaser for Spinal's theme :eek: more can be found on his twitter page.

    It is also been teased that Spinal will finally be revealed this Thursday on the Microsoft twitch channel at 10pm http://www.twitch.tv/xbox


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen






    Mr Grimmmz (Highest Ranking person on XBL) vs FilthieRich. first 2 parts of what seems to be a set of 4 videos.

    Mr Grimmmz has some of the best execution i've seen so far in this game, managing to regularly hitting manual combos which can be compared to 1-2 frame links in SF4.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Nutrient


    2gen wrote: »




    Mr Grimmmz (Highest Ranking person on XBL) vs FilthieRich. first 2 parts of what seems to be a set of 4 videos.

    Mr Grimmmz has some of the best execution i've seen so far in this game, managing to regularly hitting manual combos which can be compared to 1-2 frame links in SF4.

    Remember having some sets with Grimms, Vids are entertaining

    I'd say the whole 1-2 frame link comparison can be wildly inaccurate, yes, you need to be for e.g +6 to do HP which is 6Frames SU which is a 1 frame link, but, the games input is lenient making this pretty doable during fast pace games

    I can land the 1-2 frames about 8/10 attempts which is WAY more than i should be getting.

    Also the current ranking system means sh** atm, I'm 20 atm and bodied a lvl 29 by just doing DPs 24/7


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭bush


    I read they werent actually links and you cancel the end of a linker in the last 5 frames. Sounds about right to me, manuals are pretty easy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen


    alright, i stand corrected. people have been making them out to be extremely hard to pull off on youtube vids and forums and i've only had a few hours with the game at the XBO road tour so didnt get that deep into the game.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Nutrient


    Our boy Tom brady

    "Instead of using Auto-Doubles (where you automatically get two hits from pressing one button), you can use a Manual Cancel. Manuals can replace Auto-Doubles in combos and are an advanced way to make combos harder to break. To perform a Manual, you need to precisely time a normal attack after an Opener, Linker, or Shadow Linker. This cancels the last five recovery frames of the Opener or the Linker, giving you five additional frames on top of the frame advantage on hit to get a Manual in. A Manual Cancel is much harder to break then an Auto-Double because you can only break it during the Manual’s short Hitstop, which is a freeze-frame when the attack connects. Perfecting the use of Manual Cancels can make it a nightmare for your opponent because of just how strict the timing can be to combo break it, making Manuals a great way to consistently hunt for lock outs."


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭Ramza


    Got to play this a little on saturday (Thanks Nutrient!), it plays good. I'm really liking the look of the metagame that's springing from the game system, and I totally called that people will find a new workaround the system mechanics to make combos unbreakable/harder to break :p, but this time it actually seems balanced (manuals), unlike unbreakable stun combos in the original KI

    The game is beautiful, and like I said the metagame seems interesting. It took a little while to get used to the combo system but when it caught on it was good. Also, flowchart/autopilot players are punished HEAVILY in this game, something that's good to see! The counter breaker is really cool, over all a really cool game


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭2gen


    Just a reminder for anyone that might be interested.

    http://www.twitch.tv/microsoftstudios

    The KI team will be putting on a stream tonight at 10pm. twitter pages and KI forums have been blowing up with excitement over a couple of tweets that hinted that Spinal will be shown tonight after a 4 week hiatus.

    https://twitter.com/Ishmae1

    https://twitter.com/JustCallMeBau


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭Ramza


    I hope Spinal's enders are the same as his old school one where he temporarily transforms into the opponent and does their ender, was too sick.

    Wonder if his shield absorption will return. Everytime you broke a combo or absorbed a fireball with the shield, you got skulls that revolved around spinal's character model. They could be used like an ex fireball or to juggle the opponent after an air ender, hopefully it will return


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Nutrient


    That stream was a big middle finger

    No new news, few questions answered but nothing we didn't know already


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