LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day

Trojan

Top Dog wrote: »

Lancia dash is one of the most random posts I've seen in a while. No link. No explanation. I'll just leave this here. :pac:

Thank you!

CharlieCroker wrote: »

The newer model 300c was badged as the Lancia Thema on mainland Europe after Fiat and Chrysler amalgamated

This

I'm kind of morbidly fascinated by the 300c.

It's a brutish design, you get the taxi drivers boasting about their "Bentley grill", someone else actually "rebadging" their 300c with a Bentley badge off ebay and a bit of sellotape, AND it's branded as a Lancia in Europe.

And is it even a Luxobarge?

The whole thing is... well, morbidly fascinating!

bazz26

The 300c is still sold in the US brand new today and shares it's underpinnings with the Dodge Charger and Challenger.

KevRossi

Wasn't there crazy waiting lists for the 300C here when it first came out around 2006? It looked good at the time IMO, but had a nasty interior.

ELM327

I considered one at the time before coming to my senses and opting for an e61 535d.
They (300c) are surely designed to look like a barge and handle as such from my brief test drive, but unless sold with the non SRT V8 they do not fulfill the luxo part of luxobarge for me.

Odyssey 2005

I Was VB wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/view/26673784

Awful fit and finish, constantly going through suspension bushes, but fairly reliable underpinnings?

Could ya be tempted to buy a €1400 Chrysler 300c?

Someone bought it.
I like them. Drove an 07 for a while.
Remind me of a mafia staff car.

Trojan

The OG

Odyssey 2005

Trojan wrote: »

The OG

I know fellas who flew to New York especially to buy those grills.;)

Eric Cartman

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

I know fellas who flew to New York especially to buy those grills.;)

thats the most 2006/7 thing I've heard in a long time.

Padraig Mor

KevRossi wrote: »

Wasn't there crazy waiting lists for the 300C here when it first came out around 2006? It looked good at the time IMO, but had a nasty interior.

IIRC, in the UK at least, they were worth MORE than new list price when fresh second hand, as the waiting list was so long.

handofdog

Padraig Mor wrote: »

IIRC, in the UK at least, they were worth MORE than new list price when fresh second hand, as the waiting list was so long.

You're spot on. Same here (ie in Ireland) in either 2006 or 2007. I spoke to someone at the time who bought one then and they could have sold at profit. Mad!

I Was VB

I don’t like them in either guise.

It does give off a certain energy that isn’t really desirable.

jmreire

Did they use the Mercedes Benz engine and transmission, at least in some of them? And possibly some other MB bits and bobs as well? If so, then at least the drive line should be OK.

Eric Cartman

jmreire wrote: »

Did they use the Mercedes Benz engine and transmission, at least in some of them? And possibly some other MB bits and bobs as well? If so, then at least the drive line should be OK.

I think that was a great rumour dealers of these and ssangyongs spread around in those days, saying it was the same solid mere lump out of the w220 s320d , in reality the ssangyong was some Chinese copy and no idea what was in this.

Eric Cartman

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I think that was a great rumour dealers of these and ssangyongs spread around in those days, saying it was the same solid mere lump out of the w220 s320d , in reality the ssangyong was some Chinese copy and no idea what was in this.

300c diesel had an om642 Merc engine.... No rumour, fact. They were under the same ownership at the time iirc.

Ssangyong had Merc diesel engines built under license not by Mercedes.

Eric Cartman

Augeo wrote: »

300c diesel had an om642 Merc engine.... No rumour, fact. They were under the same ownership at the time iirc.

Ssangyong had Merc diesel engines built under license not by Mercedes.

there we go, well atleast it was a genuine one in the 300c. Solid lump. Wouldn't trust a yank diesel thats not some giant cummins.

jmreire

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I think that was a great rumour dealers of these and ssangyongs spread around in those days, saying it was the same solid mere lump out of the w220 s320d , in reality the ssangyong was some Chinese copy and no idea what was in this.

Reason I asked was because during a chance encounter with a Chrysler 300c owner in the local Lidl car park and we got chatting. He was very happy with it, especially the fact that it had MB engine and 5 speed auto matic transmission, and he had just driven it all the way from London ( pre Covid ), and it was not the 1st time either, lovely car for long long drives. And the gear shift was identical to the one MB use. So I am just curious.

Rows Grower

Augeo wrote: »

300c diesel had an om642 Merc engine.... No rumour, fact. They were under the same ownership at the time iirc.

Ssangyong had Merc diesel engines built under license not by Mercedes.

Ssangyong did have a Mercedes engine, if you look at some of the older SSangyong's for sale the average mileage is up there with the best of them.

jmreire

I did a little bit of digging on the subject of Chrysler using Mercedes engines, and I found some very interesting facts about not only Chrysler using MB parts, but other manufacturer's as well including Tesla..Chrysler did use the MB OM642, but later on built their own version of the same engine under MB Licence, called the Rexon, and it was very successful too.
Hereunder is the link to the to the site I was on, have a look if anyone likes.

Five carmakers using Mercedes-Benz bits | Stuff.co.nzwww.stuff.co.nz › motoring › five-carmakers-using-merc...

bazz26

Chrysler were not just using Mercedes bits in some of their models. Daimler acquired Chrysler back in the late 1990s to form the company Daimler Chrysler. Daimler then flogged Chrysler to Fiat hence the 300c being later rebadged as a Lancia Thema.

Rows Grower

Rows Grower wrote: »

Ssangyong did have a Mercedes engine, if you look at some of the older SSangyong's for sale the average mileage is up there with the best of them.

Yes.............. I said Ssangyong had Merc diesel engines built under license not by Mercedes...........further detail.......... https://mercedes-benz-publicarchive.com/marsClassic/en/instance/ko/SsangYong-licensed-production-of-commercial-vehicle-diesel-engines.xhtml?oid=4912653bo variants"

Mercedes-Benz AG and South Korea's SsangYong Motor Company (SYMC) sign a cooperation agreement which provides for the manufacture under licence of six and eight-cylinder commercial vehicle diesel engines at SsangYong in South Korea.

For Forks Sake

Rows Grower wrote: »

Ssangyong did have a Mercedes engine, if you look at some of the older SSangyong's for sale the average mileage is up there with the best of them.

Nobody wants to look upon any old Ssangyong, expecially that effin Rodius

Rows Grower

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Nobody wants to look upon any old Ssangyong, expecially that effin Rodius

Okeydokey, thanks for letting me know how everyone feels.

KevRossi

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Nobody wants to look upon any old Ssangyong, expecially that effin Rodius

The Musso was a great workhorse, I know of two still on the road that have received huge abuse and there were a fair few around 10 years ago. Poor fitting, rattly interior, but the rest was good.

KevRossi

Enough chat, more barge!

LS 460, NCT to 05/21. €4800.

Claims car has no dents, front reg plate begs to differ.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/lexus-ls460/26181591

Truckermal

That was for sale much cheaper than that a few months ago local to me, I'd be giving it a wide berth!

460 is a bit meh I think yes I know it's a V8 but found the GS much nicer to cruise in.

I was actually going to post that earlier to try and break up the sh1te talk...

Eric Cartman

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/merc-s500-lwb/26439193


Its been facelifted by the owner, pics are bad but it looks clean.

Eric Cartman

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/cayenne-new-nct/26164465

A 4.5 Cayenne thats pretty fully loaded.

Mickiemcfist

Eric Cartman wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/merc-s500-lwb/26439193


Its been facelifted by the owner, pics are bad but it looks clean.

Lot of car for the money. Just to note though, that spot looks very familiar, think that guy sells Luxobarges fairly regularly.

Mickiemcfist

Mickiemcfist wrote: »

Lot of car for the money. Just to note though, that spot looks very familiar, think that guy sells Luxobarges fairly regularly.

Photo can't be recent......... full leaf clad deciduous trees.
Must have it a few months anyway

KevRossi

2007 3.0 Petrol. New NCT to 01/22, Tax 04/21. Looks the business in that colour, though I'd prefer a lighter interior.

€4,750, so under €4K when you haggle a bit and take the tax into account.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/jaguar-xj6-3-0-petrol-automatic/26660288