Next Doctor

old hippy

nemesisdg wrote: »

No. No and triple no.

He is a terrible actor.

Sorry, but no.

He impressed me in the ghost story - I'm not really familiar with his body of work, mind.

Orion

Bryan Cranston as The Doctor.

Just imagine it - The Doctor, realising this is his last incarnation, decides to make his companion comfortably rich when he dies by setting up a meth lab in the TARDIS!

JP Liz V1

norrie rugger wrote: »

Games of Thrones mega Spoiler here!!
I see that

Richard Madden (Robb Stark)

is free now
or
David Morrissey already played The Doctor, of sorts

Isn't

Richard Madden

dating Jenna-Louise Coleman?

Das Kitty

A lot of money going on Ben Daniels.

He was the photographer guy in House of Cards for anyone who's seen it.

pixelburp

Das Kitty wrote: »

A lot of money going on Ben Daniels.

He was the photographer guy in House of Cards for anyone who's seen it.

Had to google his name and the first 3/4 results were along the lines of "Daniels in lead to take over Dr. Who" Man the internet works fast these days!

Although those same articles mention Chiwetel Ejiofor as one of the other rumoured runners; I never thought of him, but he'd be pretty damn good in the role. Very much a leading man with bags of charm, and has precedent working in genre TV Wouldn't say no to that choice!

Wibbs

Bit of an odd one maybe, but I've often thought that Rufus Sewell might make a good doctor.

norrie rugger

Too intense

JP Liz V1

Ben Daniels is 48, is he not too old

Sonics2k

Me, hopefully.

A guy can dream, and I do have a ginger beard, so it'd be a start for The Doctor who has always wanted to be a ginger.

JP Liz V1

Tom Hiddleston would be good, he is too big now in his career

norrie rugger

Too late. I am a natural ginge and have put my name forward already

Manach

Sean "Rifleman" Bean. Given the amount of times his character's pass away, he would at least have prior practice regenerating.

pixelburp

Neil Gaiman weighs in on the subject of who should be the next Doc, and I see his point:

http://neil-gaiman.tumblr.com/post/52244065702/what-would-you-say-to-sir-ian-mckellen-taking-the

I actually like it when The Doctor is a relatively unknown actor, or one without one huge role that made them famous. A star, like Sir Ian, brings all the other roles they’ve ever played to the table when they act. Seeing John Hurt as the (Spoiler) at the end of the Name of the Doctor, meant that this was a certain type of part with a certain amount of gravitas, and you understood that John Hurt was bringing everything with it (including being John Hurt), just as Derek Jacobi did as the Master.

[...]

I want to see The Doctor. I want to be taken by surprise. I want to squint at a photo of the person online and go “but how can that be The Doctor?”. Then I want to be amazingly, delightedly, completely proven wrong, and, six episodes in, I want to wonder how I could have been so blind. Because this is the Doctor. Of course it is.

RossyG

I've heard a few rumours from people in the know - so they say - that an Irishman has been cast in the part. It's probably utter crap, but the name I've heard is Domhnall (son of Brendon) Gleeson. He certainly looks the part.



As for his accent... Well, every planet has a Dublin.

(We'll find out tomorrow... allegedly)

Grian1

Apparently Russell Brand wants to do it!

http://m.digitalspy.ie/tv/s7/doctor-who/news/a487947/russell-brand-on-doctor-who-id-love-to-be-the-doctor.html

Wibbs

RossyG wrote: »

As for his accent... Well, every planet has a Dublin.

(We'll find out tomorrow... allegedly)

Plus Gallifrey has been referred to more than once as "somewhere in Ireland", so you never know. And he's ginger.

rock chic

Grian1 wrote: »

Apparently Russell Brand wants to do it!

http://m.digitalspy.ie/tv/s7/doctor-who/news/a487947/russell-brand-on-doctor-who-id-love-to-be-the-doctor.html

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo id never watch doctor who again ever :eek:

rock chic

RossyG wrote: »

I've heard a few rumours from people in the know - so they say - that an Irishman has been cast in the part. It's probably utter crap, but the name I've heard is Domhnall (son of Brendon) Gleeson. He certainly looks the part.



As for his accent... Well, every planet has a Dublin.

(We'll find out tomorrow... allegedly)

he looks like my fiancee lol i can imagine me son going in to school my stepdad looks like the doctor (he has autism and a big who fan the son that is )

pixelburp

Grian1 wrote: »

Apparently Russell Brand wants to do it!

http://m.digitalspy.ie/tv/s7/doctor-who/news/a487947/russell-brand-on-doctor-who-id-love-to-be-the-doctor.html

Das Kitty

RossyG wrote: »

I've heard a few rumours from people in the know - so they say - that an Irishman has been cast in the part. It's probably utter crap, but the name I've heard is Domhnall (son of Brendon) Gleeson. He certainly looks the part.



As for his accent... Well, every planet has a Dublin.

(We'll find out tomorrow... allegedly)

If this is true I want to be bought a beer as first boards tipper! :pac:

I would love him in the role.

old hippy

RossyG wrote: »

I've heard a few rumours from people in the know - so they say - that an Irishman has been cast in the part. It's probably utter crap, but the name I've heard is Domhnall (son of Brendon) Gleeson. He certainly looks the part.



As for his accent... Well, every planet has a Dublin.

(We'll find out tomorrow... allegedly)

An excellent choice, I liked him as Geldof and he was good in that Charlie Brooker drama.

bren2001

Not being announced today.

Taken from Ed Stradlings twitter
"Steven Moffat says this morning "I haven't a clue who it is, we've barely started." So no #doctorwho announcement this evening I fear!"

flazio

Wibbs wrote: »

Plus Gallifrey has been referred to more than once as "somewhere in Ireland", so you never know. And he's ginger.

Wait, so everyone here in Galway (Gaillimh) is a Time Lord? Sweet
Problem is, because Domhall Gleeson's name is now getting popular, that now pretty much rules him out.
I'm going to make a prediction. There's going to be a Doctor Who at the Proms performance on Saturday July 13th, it'll be live on BBC Radio 3.
I'm predicting now that they will announce the 12th Doctor at this Prom

Huffington Post reporting that Rory Kinnear has been formally offered the part.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/06/09/doctor-who-rory-kinnear-matt-smith-replacement_n_3410731.html

Dunno about that. He doesn't really do *excited* or *interested* well.

Ron Burgundy !

Rory Kinnear is rumored to be the next doctor. I personally think any of these could fit the part of the doctor quite well, although some of them probally won't play the role as they are too big in the acting world and its fairly certain we'll end up with an unknown doctor
1 Benedict Cumberbatch
2 Ben Whishaw
3 Andrew Scott
4 Aidan Turner
5 Andrew Garfield
6 Martin Freeman
7 James McAvoy
8 Gary Oldman
9 Richard Armitage
10 Tom Hiddleston
however there are odds on some of these possibly becoming the doctor

norrie rugger

boooo

Das Kitty

Deleted User wrote: »

Huffington Post reporting that Rory Kinnear has been formally offered the part.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/06/09/doctor-who-rory-kinnear-matt-smith-replacement_n_3410731.html

Dunno about that. He doesn't really do *excited* or *interested* well.

I'm just imagining the Tumblr gifs that will be made out of his appearance in Black Mirror. :eek:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Black_Mirror_episodes#Series_1

Ron Burgundy !

I really hope they pull themselves together next series, Steven Moffat's writing is terrible compared to Russel T Davies which is surprising considering he can write well, take Sherlock for example he writes that brilliantly, but doctor who is nowhere near as good. Either he has to go or we can hope the new doctor will bring about some change next time around.

the_barfly1

yeah, the silence and weeping angels aren't nearly as terrifying as the farting slime balls

Ron Burgundy !

the_barfly1 wrote: »

yeah, the silence and weeping angels aren't nearly as terrifying as the farting slime balls

Farting slime balls ?

the_barfly1

Excuse me, I meant to say Slitheen. You can't honestly say that writing those monstrosities into the series was better than Steven Moffat's work. Probably the only episode I'd be embarrassed to watch in the company of people unfamiliar with the show. Awful awful awful. I reckon Moffat's doing an alright job to be honest. Russell T. Davies time as showrunner had a much more juvenile feel to it overall (in my opinion).
Has nothing to do with the next Doctor of course, but it really grinds my gears to see Moffat getting slated so much online, when in fairness to him, he's done great things for the show. But thats another discussion.
/off to lurk again

Ron Burgundy !

Don't get me wrong he can write brilliantly and some of my favorite episodes had his input, but i found Davies' episodes brilliant, he really understood the audience and he made the doctor the perfect balance of quirky, funny, and serious (Matt smiths just a bit too jokey for me and he seemed too different to his predecessors). I also loved the companions cast during RTD's time from Rose to Wilf (amy and rory got a bit annoying, however saying that i like clara). But My main problem with Moffat is how he ends his episodes it just seems a bit lazy, like in nightmare in silver

we see the doctor in an inescapable situation only to have it resolved in a minute with him teleporting away as the planet explodes

that and his overuse of the whole love triumphs all rubbish

like in the episode hide which had started off quite well

. That and his story arcs which start off as interesting slowly turn boring, anyway rant over I just hope with the new doctor we will see an improvement in the show.

ixoy

Funny, I look at what you mention as Moffat's flaws and I'd see RTD as being far far more guilty of them myself!

Anyway, if Brand did get the position (not a chance thankfully) I might actually have to stop watching. Okay so Catherine Tate was a pleasant surprise but Brand just.. no. No.

Ron Burgundy !

ixoy wrote: »

Funny, I look at what you mention as Moffat's flaws and I'd see RTD as being far far more guilty of them myself!

Anyway, if Brand did get the position (not a chance thankfully) I might actually have to stop watching. Okay so Catherine Tate was a pleasant surprise but Brand just.. no. No.

Russel brand? I agree he's awful and not the best person to have as a role model (as the doctor is to many young boys). And on the subject of who we don't want to be the next doctor, i hope the next doctor isn't a female. Not to be sexist but i cant see a female fitting the role as it would change the dynamic of show too much and alienate a lot of the fans (me included) who'd find it too weird to watch.

Mr.Saturn

Ron Burgundy ! wrote: »

Don't get me wrong he can write brilliantly and some of my favorite episodes had his input, but i found Davies' episodes brilliant, he really understood the audience and he made the doctor the perfect balance of quirky, funny, and serious (Matt smiths just a bit too jokey for me and he seemed too different to his predecessors). I also loved the companions cast during RTD's time from Rose to Wilf (amy and rory got a bit annoying, however saying that i like clara). But My main problem with Moffat is how he ends his episodes it just seems a bit lazy, like in nightmare in silver

we see the doctor in an inescapable situation only to have it resolved in a minute with him teleporting away as the planet explodes

that and his overuse of the whole love triumphs all rubbish

like in the episode hide which had started off quite well

. That and his story arcs which start off as interesting slowly turn boring, anyway rant over I just hope with the new doctor we will see an improvement in the show.

If you're gonna cite a story that substantiates your ending claim, I suggest choosing one that was written by Moffat himself. Also, if his EP status comes in focus and its impact on other writers' stories, I imagine Gaiman (writer of NiS) enjoyed an unedited status similar to Moffat during RTD's reign.

Though, on your other point, 'Hide' isn't Moffat's either, but yeah, it'd be valid in as much as he's EP, but I'd disagree with the argument itself.

On the subject of writers: I wonder why Cornell never came back to write another episode.

Ron Burgundy !

Mr.Saturn wrote: »

If you're gonna cite a story that substantiates your ending claim, I suggest choosing one that was written by Moffat himself. Also, if his EP status comes in focus and its impact on other writers' stories, I imagine Gaiman (writer of NiS) enjoyed an unedited status similar to Moffat during RTD's reign.

Though, on your other point, 'Hide' isn't Moffat's either, but yeah, it'd be valid in as much as he's EP, but I'd disagree with the argument itself.

On the subject of writers: I wonder why Cornell never came back to write another episode.

i'm not necessarily saying only episodes written by him are bad, but bad episodes seem to be more frequent under his reign. As i said he can write well i love Sherlock, silence in the library, forest of the dead, the empty child, the doctor dances, the lodger, and the earlier weeping angel episodes but since his takeover the show has been steadily going downhill but i'll give him this that cliffhanger at the end of the name of the doctor got me excited about doctor who for the first time in a while.

RossyG

New Doctor revealed...



Not really. It's a gag from tomorrow's Mock the Week.

old hippy

pixelburp

Well all ye Domhnall Gleeson fans probably shouldn't get your hopes up, he has laughed off the suggestion he's in the running:

http://www.rte.ie/ten/news/2013/0612/456167-domhnall-gleeson-laughs-off-doctor-who-link/

kalmanon2

Well Sean Bean could be a good choice - one does not simply walk into the tardis after all....

TheIrishGrover

Yeah but we'd be waiting for him to regenerate every second episode

Killer_banana

Gambler wrote: »

Is it Will Wheaton?! :P

One can only hope... I did find that post weird though. He said it had filtered down to him and he was surprised it's not common knowledge but I was under the impressions casting hadn't even started.

I really don't know who I would like as the Doctor. I think Gaiman has a good point in relation to it being an unknown.

I have mixed feelings about the idea of a female Doctor but if there is one I would love Amanda Tapping. She has Sanctuary though and is very focused on being a mother so can't see it happening.

Doctor DooM

I was listening to Radio Free Skaro and they made a very interesting point about the female Doctor thing.

A lot of online commentators are clamouring for a female Doctor as a feminist thing, but in fact this could be seen as a bad thing for feminism.

The Doctor is one of very few male role models in media who is neither obsessed with getting the girl or solving problems with his fists. The Doctor is worth more (and is perhaps more relevant) as a man than a woman.

There's supposed to be a great article from one of the English newspapers making this point, if anyone has it I'd love to read it.

stevenmu

Doctor DooM wrote: »

There's supposed to be a great article from one of the English newspapers making this point, if anyone has it I'd love to read it.

Probably this article in the Indo. I read it a week or two ago when it was posted here on Reddit. It makes a good point alright, there aren't very many non-action-hero male role models out there, it would be a shame to get rid of such a good one.

Doctor DooM

That's it, cheers

pixelburp

Whilst it can be argued that regeneration is itself a gimmick, the idea of just flipping the gender on a whim would feel like a genuine shark-jumping moment of gimmickry for the show; where the new Doctor becomes less about what would work as a new face / personality, and more about appealing to some broad social / commercial sensibility. Doctor Who should be timeless, not subject to what's topical at the moment & become some form of prism through which we force our social concerns

The question of equality is too important (and a delicate subject, so I hope I'm not coming across as trying to trample all over it) to simply start gender-bending cultural icons out of a knee-jerk reaction to this issue. As the article mentions, the Doctor is an important role-model, regardless of his gender, but the idea of a male action-hero who wins the day with wits, humor and book-smarts is such a - depressingly - unique concept that to suddenly remove that would be the bigger mistake here.

The Doctor is a male, non-violent action hero, who doesn't get off with every female character he meets; surely that's the bigger treasure that should be maintained? While I cringe at every Jack Bauer / Han Solo / alpha-male-rogue template that stinks up TV drama, I cheer the Doctor as a true champion of decency, optimism and the embodiment of knowledge triumphing over blunt force (most of the time of course; the YouTube compilation videos may point to violent moments in the Doctor's past, but these were aberrations and missteps by scriptwriters such as the bitter Eric Seward). Take that away and suddenly TV become a little more barren of decent male role-models for 'de kiddies.

It's frustrating either way because it's making light of an important subject in TV drama's topography that genuinely rattles my cage - the distinct lack of strong female characters, any how many shows miserably fail the infamous Bechdel Test - but arbitrarily flipping the Doctor's gender is not the right response here.

Let's try to write better female characters to begin with, not change the male ones to female and figure that works just as well. And I'd sooner try to deconstruct the tired cliche of the Doctor / Female companion trope than start shaking up the core mythology because OMG-EQUALITY!!1! reactions from those who (probably) don't even watch the show.

old hippy

I must be one of the few Eric Saward fans out there

Killer_banana

That's why I have mixed feelings about a female Doctor. I think if they were to change the gender they would need a good reason to do it and personally I can't think of one. Making him a woman for the sake of it would be the complete opposite of feminism.

I think it would be better for fans to fight for stronger female characters. While Amy and Clara are strong women on the surface I do feel they're very 2D and I dislike how undying and unquestioning their devotion to the Doctor is. I think more believable and more well rounded female characters would do much more for the show than making the Doctor a woman for no good reason.

bren2001

I agree that there is not enough leading female roles on tv or in films. Whether it is actions heros or political thrillers, nearly all of the shows I like have a male lead with (mainly) male support (bar Parks and Recreation).

However, the solution to this is not to call for every new role to go to a woman. The role has to be right. For the reasons outlined in this thread and the indo article, the doctor should not be a woman.

If it is given to a women, I don't think they would have to explain the "gender bending", does the doctor have a sex?

The only reason people think the doctor "should be a man" is that The Doctor has always been played by a man.

The Doctor has no control (apparently) over his regeneration, and has said himself, that he could indeed be regenerated into a woman.

I think it is slightly sexist to forget about that and always have The Doctor "as a man" because that's what we're used to.

I personally see no harm whatsoever having The Doctor as a female. As long as the story lines are good, I couldn't give a monkeys.