Waterford Politics MEGATHREAD

ForzaKid

What way do you guys see the 6 seats in the Waterford South area going?

I think personally 1) John Cummins FG
2) John Hearne SF
3) Breda Brennan SF
4) Jason Murphy FF
5) Cha O'Neill Ind
6) Seamus Ryan Lab /Tom Murphy Ind

I think Sinn Fein have a great chance of securing two seats, people are sick and tired of the same CRAP that the City has been put through the last 5 years. This boils down to the lack of job creation, Unemployment rates soaring and finally the Labour party letting down so many promises and now it's their time to pay.

7upfree

ForzaKid wrote: »

What way do you guys see the 6 seats in the Waterford South area going?

I think personally 1) John Cummins FG
2) John Hearne SF
3) Breda Brennan SF
4) Jason Murphy FF
5) Cha O'Neill Ind
6) Seamus Ryan Lab /Tom Murphy Ind

I think Sinn Fein have a great chance of securing two seats, people are sick and tired of the same CRAP that the City has been put through the last 5 years. This boils down to the lack of job creation, Unemployment rates soaring and finally the Labour party letting down so many promises and now it's their time to pay.

I wouldn't vote for any Councillor who voted the City Council into oblivion.

larryddi

nice_very wrote: »

@Gardner, there are 6 seats going in each city/comeragh constituencies, with 8 going in Dungarvan/Lismore = 32 in total, here is the list so far:

SF
Waterford City East Pat Fitzgerald
Waterford City South John Hearne , Breda Brennan
Waterford City West-Tramore Jim Griffin, David Lane
Comeragh Declan Clune
Dungarvan-Lismore Siobhan Whelan, Louise Brierley

WP
Waterford City West-Tramore Davy Walsh
Wat City East Brian Hearne
WC South Willie Moore

FG
Waterford City East Tom Cunningham, Jim D’Arcy, John Carey
Comeragh Liam Brazil, Sean Power, Brendán Coffey
Dungarvan-Lismore Declan Doocey, Pat Nugent, Micheal Cosgrove, Damien Geoghegan

LAB
Waterford City East Jack Walsh
Waterford City West-Tramore Dee Jacques
Waterford City South Seamus Ryan
Comeragh Ger Barron
Dungarvan-Lismore Billy Kyne, Nicky Sheehan, John Pratt

FF
Dungarvan-Lismore Tom Cronin, James Tobin
Waterford City South Jason Murphy
Waterford City East Eamon McGrath, Liz Murphy
Comeragh Michael Joseph O’Ryan, John O’Leary, Mary Butler
Waterford City West-Tramore Pat Daly, Eamon Quinlan

People Before Profit
Waterford City East Joan Quirke

Independent/Non Party
Waterford City South Tom Murphy
Tramore-Waterford City West Joe Conway, Dick Roche
Comeragh Sean Walsh

Direct Democracy Ireland will be running Three candidates in the forthcoming elections. Myself Larry Mc Carthy in city east, Gary Hogan in city south and Dr David Janes in Comeragh. For anybody familiar with us you know what we are about, and for those who don't please vist directdemocracyireland.ie

larryddi

We in Direct Demococracy were never even asked about this despite our Facebook campaign going on for the last few weeks. How they know who is running is beyond me as papers don't have to be in for a while yet.

LiamD1977 wrote: »

In this weeks Munster they have a Q&A with all the City East candidates, noticed that none of the FG candidates took part although they were asked. Bad decision IMHO.

larryddi

I would really like to see Gay Hogan of DDI in this. Bloody hard working man and extremely passionate about Waterford. Please do give this man a chance,
What way do you guys see the 6 seats in the Waterford South area going?

I think personally 1) John Cummins FG
2) John Hearne SF
3) Breda Brennan SF
4) Jason Murphy FF
5) Cha O'Neill Ind
6) Seamus Ryan Lab /Tom Murphy Ind

I think Sinn Fein have a great chance of securing two seats, people are sick and tired of the same CRAP that the City has been put through the last 5 years. This boils down to the lack of job creation, Unemployment rates soaring and finally the Labour party letting down so many promises and now it's their time to pay.[/QUOTE]

LiamD1977

Any predictions for City East ?

The FG candidates seem very quite, I guess the John Carey will struggle getting votes in the city .

ForzaKid

LiamD1977 wrote: »

Any predictions for City East ?

The FG candidates seem very quite, I guess the John Carey will struggle getting votes in the city .

Hows the canvassing going?

Sully

larryddi wrote: »

We in Direct Demococracy were never even asked about this despite our Facebook campaign going on for the last few weeks. How they know who is running is beyond me as papers don't have to be in for a while yet.

I've no idea what the OP was on about as I asked around and other candidates were unaware of any such Q&A for them but they have done bits for future editions including a journalist going out with a candidate. Apparently the papers are doing articles based on constituency.

It also may be a case there focusing on the main players/candidates because they can't do them all?

Gardner

so do we have the full official list of all candidates in east ward? anyone that thinks sf will get 2 seats in 1 ward is off their head. Reinheart (backing of Halligan) and Seamus Ryan i cant see losing their seats.

dzilla

can anybody point me to any help our MEPs kelly or crowley have done for Waterford Re the Pylons through the Comeraghs or the Waterford crystal situation?

hardybuck

dzilla wrote: »

can anybody point me to any help our MEPs kelly or crowley have done for Waterford Re the Pylons through the Comeraghs or the Waterford crystal situation?

While your at it, what about Phil Prendergast? Kilkenny born and based up the road in Clonmel.

ForzaKid

Gardner wrote: »

so do we have the full official list of all candidates in east ward? anyone that thinks sf will get 2 seats in 1 ward is off their head. Reinheart (backing of Halligan) and Seamus Ryan i cant see losing their seats.

Obviously a dig at me, what about the parties that people put them in this mess? Sinn Fein have a massive backing from the working class people and the green tide is turning. Up to 21% on the polls as well now too.

sparkling sea

I can see why on the face of it people would turn to SF but when you sit down and think about it, I really dont understand how SF are getting such backing when you look at some of the measure they have implemented in Northern Ireland, there no differernt to FF or FG.

All very well to say you'll do this or that when you have no power but SF have power in the Northern Ireland, people are much more easily fooled then we'd like to believe.

We might be better off with independents because the parties are all a complete let down, they all appear to be cut from the same cloth and SF in paticular are teflon coated. If fairness they are all teflon coated.

hardybuck

sparkling sea wrote: »

I can see why on the face of it people would turn to SF but when you sit down and think about it, I really dont understand how SF are getting such backing when you look at some of the measure they have implemented in Northern Ireland, there no differernt to FF or FG.

All very well to say you'll do this or that when you have no power but SF have power in the Northern Ireland, people are much more easily fooled then we'd like to believe.

We might be better off with independents because the parties are all a complete let down, they all appear to be cut from the same cloth and SF in paticular are teflon coated. If fairness they are all teflon coated.

It's much easier to be a socialist in opposition than a socialist when in power, particularly during an economic crisis.

hardybuck

ForzaKid wrote: »

Obviously a dig at me, what about the parties that people put them in this mess? Sinn Fein have a massive backing from the working class people and the green tide is turning. Up to 21% on the polls as well now too.

SF don't even bother canvassing in some areas of the East Ward. They won't get two, would be fortunate to get one.

space2ground1

Why is it that Crowley gets returned as an MEP so easily? I'd be genuiunely interested to know if I'm missing all the work that he does.

ForzaKid

hardybuck wrote: »

SF don't even bother canvassing in some areas of the East Ward. They won't get two, would be fortunate to get one.

Name your 6 for Waterford South then please.

hardybuck

ForzaKid wrote: »

Name your 6 for Waterford South then please.

In no particular order, and with an added health warning that I haven't sat down to analyse all the candidates, I think the following will occur:

2 certain independents: Davy Daniels and Mary Roche
1 certain FG: Either Jim Darcy or Tom Cunningham
1 FF: 3 candidates, I think 1 will make it - possibly Wyse
Dogfight between the rest for remaining two seats: Darcy/Cunningham, Eddie Mulligan, Jack Walsh, other FF candidates, maybe 1 SF.

The reason I think SF might sneak one seat is that the transfers from other left candidates might carry them. Traditionally this doesn't work out as the left vote wasn't as united as it should have been, but that could be about to change.

What do you think yourself?

7upfree

hardybuck wrote: »

In no particular order, and with an added health warning that I haven't sat down to analyse all the candidates, I think the following will occur:

2 certain independents: Davy Daniels and Mary Roche
1 certain FG: Either Jim Darcy or Tom Cunningham
1 FF: 3 candidates, I think 1 will make it - possibly Wyse
Dogfight between the rest for remaining two seats: Darcy/Cunningham, Eddie Mulligan, Jack Walsh, other FF candidates, maybe 1 SF.

The reason I think SF might sneak one seat is that the transfers from other left candidates might carry them. Traditionally this doesn't work out as the left vote wasn't as united as it should have been, but that could be about to change.

What do you think yourself?

I really hope people aren't stupid enough to vote for either FF/FG or Labour.

ForzaKid

hardybuck wrote: »

In no particular order, and with an added health warning that I haven't sat down to analyse all the candidates, I think the following will occur:

2 certain independents: Davy Daniels and Mary Roche
1 certain FG: Either Jim Darcy or Tom Cunningham
1 FF: 3 candidates, I think 1 will make it - possibly Wyse
Dogfight between the rest for remaining two seats: Darcy/Cunningham, Eddie Mulligan, Jack Walsh, other FF candidates, maybe 1 SF.

The reason I think SF might sneak one seat is that the transfers from other left candidates might carry them. Traditionally this doesn't work out as the left vote wasn't as united as it should have been, but that could be about to change.

What do you think yourself?

I said South not east numbnuts!

hardybuck

ForzaKid wrote: »

I said South not east numbnuts!

Apologies, totally misread that! I still thought we were talking about the original comment regarding the east.

You don't dispute that SF would do well to get 1 elected in that ward though?

hardybuck

7upfree wrote: »

I really hope people aren't stupid enough to vote for either FF/FG or Labour.

That's a pretty ignorant comment. The majority of the electorate would give their first preference to one of those three parties if there was a general election in the morning.

For any number of reasons a large proportion of the population won't vote for the likes of SF, workers party etc. as they'll have little in common with them or their message.

Similarly, others will be wary of an independent vote as they're often on the outside of the tent in terms of decision making.

I think a independent counciller can achieve just as much as I need from a party member though.

Finally, I'm sure there are many decent local representatives on all sides who suffer from being painted by attitudes to their party on a national level.

ForzaKid

hardybuck wrote: »

Apologies, totally misread that! I still thought we were talking about the original comment regarding the east.

You don't dispute that SF would do well to get 1 elected in that ward though?

I do, through my bias, though.

Gardner

hardybuck wrote: »

In no particular order, and with an added health warning that I haven't sat down to analyse all the candidates, I think the following will occur:

2 certain independents: Davy Daniels and Mary Roche
1 certain FG: Either Jim Darcy or Tom Cunningham
1 FF: 3 candidates, I think 1 will make it - possibly Wyse
Dogfight between the rest for remaining two seats: Darcy/Cunningham, Eddie Mulligan, Jack Walsh, other FF candidates, maybe 1 SF.

The reason I think SF might sneak one seat is that the transfers from other left candidates might carry them. Traditionally this doesn't work out as the left vote wasn't as united as it should have been, but that could be about to change.

What do you think yourself?

isn't it a 6 seater? if so i think it will be

2 ind: Daniels and mulligan
1 fg
1ff
1sf
other then will be a dog fight between the rest. ff/fg/lab/ind roche or white. wouldn't be surprised if young neil white polls well with the backing of halligan who cleaned up out there in the general election.

hardybuck

Gardner wrote: »

isn't it a 6 seater? if so i think it will be

2 ind: Daniels and mulligan
1 fg
1ff
1sf
other then will be a dog fight between the rest. ff/fg/lab/ind roche or white. wouldn't be surprised if young neil white polls well with the backing of halligan who cleaned up out there in the general election.

Yeah I outlined my 6 picks above.

I think there might be room for more new faces in the local elections.

jennygirl

hardybuck wrote: »

Yeah I outlined my 6 picks above.

I think there might be room for more new faces in the local elections.

Deff Daniels & Mulligan

Eddie Mulligan has a Take no prisoners approach
its for Waterford, even if he has to go to national lever to shake the cage
as he has done with the Commercial Rages

hardybuck

jennygirl wrote: »

Deff Daniels & Mulligan

Eddie Mulligan has a Take no prisoners approach
its for Waterford, even if he has to go to national lever to shake the cage
as he has done with the Commercial Rages

Explain that approach to me and the nature of his involvement if you can.

Was he part of a team or committee or what?

Local councillers have very little impact on policy development I should add.

Gardner

jennygirl wrote: »

Deff Daniels & Mulligan

Eddie Mulligan has a Take no prisoners approach
its for Waterford, even if he has to go to national lever to shake the cage
as he has done with the Commercial Rages

and he will be back in FF in no time. watch this space. once a gombeen always a gombeen

7upfree

hardybuck wrote: »

That's a pretty ignorant comment.

No - that's a pretty realistic comment. Ignorant (and stupid) would be voting for ANY of that lot. But I suppose we have to make allowances for some people really.

hardybuck

7upfree wrote: »

No - that's a pretty realistic comment. Ignorant (and stupid) would be voting for ANY of that lot. But I suppose we have to make allowances for some people really.

Again, it's ignorant to take a swipe at the majority of the population and label them as 'stupid' because they don't agree with you. Isn't it unusual that they tend to be the more educated members of society also!?

There is room for all political leanings to have some voice - that's how a democracy functions.

Who would you be lending your support to yourself?