UPC modem/router Technicolor TC7200

Impetus

dibs101 wrote: »

Hi all, can anyone recommend a powerline adapter to go with technicolor tc7200 for converting wireless to LAN in adjacent room?

There is so many out there to choose from but I would like to hear which one other people used.

All help greatly appreciated.

You can't beat an Ethernet connection (wired) if you can manage the wiring path. I don't know what speed your service is - 200 or 360 Mbits/sec. Anything else (wifi, powerline etc) will add latency and slow down speeds.

Use speedtest.net and varying connections to see the relative impact in your circumstances - ie note the top speed attained with WiFi and then note the top speed attained by wired Ethernet - can be short cable in same room for test purposes. Much will depend on the thickness of the walls, steel in the building, number of other WiFi units within reach and the quality of the mains wiring in the case of powerline.

dub45

Impetus wrote: »

You can't beat an Ethernet connection (wired) if you can manage the wiring path. I don't know what speed your service is - 200 or 360 Mbits/sec. Anything else (wifi, powerline etc) will add latency and slow down speeds.

Use speedtest.net and varying connections to see the relative impact in your circumstances - ie note the top speed attained with WiFi and then note the top speed attained by wired Ethernet - can be short cable in same room for test purposes. Much will depend on the thickness of the walls, steel in the building, number of other WiFi units within reach and the quality of the mains wiring in the case of powerline.

The reality is though that more and more devices are coming without ethernet so people are desperate for good wifi peformance.

Impetus

dub45 wrote: »

The reality is though that more and more devices are coming without ethernet so people are desperate for good wifi peformance.

I know Wifi is wirelessly convenient. However I have yet to come across a router (supplied by an ISP) whose WiFi supports 802.11 ac. Also WiFi is poor for conference/video calls - anything from Skype to more professional systems. Also 802.11 abg and n can't do 200 Mbits/sec not to mention GB internet speed. 802.11 ac can get up to 800 Mbits/sec if you can give it 160 MHz of bandwidth - but you must use 5 Ghz which implies a range of 35m rather than 70m for lower frequency signals used by legacy wifi. That assumes few neighbours within WiFi earshot. 802.11 ad can go up to about 6 GB/sec, but it needs 2'160 MHz of bandwidth. Basically I am saying that WiFi has density limitations (eg in an apartment building or terraced house context), and wired Ethernet is the only solution for people with high speed internet - especially into the future.

Most new PCs without wired Ethernet (RJ45 jacks) have the option of USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 connectors which has an Ethernet adapter at the other end, among other things.

Anybody getting their house re-wired or who is building a new house is better off getting the electrician to install Ethernet outlets connected with Cat 6 cables and switch(es).

It is a bit like rubbish collection - it will continue to be an essential ad infinitum, but very few cities have recycling and rubbish collection plumbed into a neighbourhood using fat vacuum pipes buried under ground (like specialist sewers) to suck the garbage to a central incinerator.

dub45

Unfortunately ethernet is just not practical for many people - students or indeed anyone staying in rented accommodation for example, And having forked out a considerable amount for a laptop many people do not want to spend extra money for an adaptor.

There will be many households in the not too distant future, if not already, where no device will have an ethernet port.

It is also easy to forget just how many people are not teccy wise either and wifi and its complexities are a complete mystery to them

I am not in any way disputing the benefits of ethernet as you list them but the reality is people need robust wifi and isps could help by placing greater emphasis on this aspect of the equipment they supply or at least by providing more options for the customer such as modem only or ensuring that all equipment supplied has a bridging option.

TheDoc

So after assuming for years I had a Cisco router, I find out today, after looking at the damn thing, I have the thread title one.

I stumbled across a Linksys WRT610N v1 in my spare room while doing a cleanup, and want to set it up with DD-WRT to I can gain use of the dual band for wifi and a few other bits.

From reading the thread, it appears that bridging is a bit of a mess on this router?

TheDoc

So after assuming for years I had a Cisco router, I find out today, after looking at the damn thing, I have the thread title one.

I stumbled across a Linksys WRT610N v1 in my spare room while doing a cleanup, and want to set it up with DD-WRT to I can gain use of the dual band for wifi and a few other bits.

From reading the thread, it appears that bridging is a bit of a mess on this router?

Impetus

TheDoc wrote: »

So after assuming for years I had a Cisco router, I find out today, after looking at the damn thing, I have the thread title one.

I stumbled across a Linksys WRT610N v1 in my spare room while doing a cleanup, and want to set it up with DD-WRT to I can gain use of the dual band for wifi and a few other bits.

From reading the thread, it appears that bridging is a bit of a mess on this router?

You might want to update the firmware of this Linksys WRT610N v1. If you can find an update, that is.

lensman

Can anyone clarify if both 2.4ghz & 5ghz can be active at the same time? I think I tried it when I got the modem last year & when I enabled the 5ghz the 2.4ghz became disabled

wiz569

lensman wrote: »

Can anyone clarify if both 2.4ghz & 5ghz can be active at the same time? I think I tried it when I got the modem last year & when I enabled the 5ghz the 2.4ghz became disabled

No they cannot m8

lensman

wiz569 wrote: »

No they cannot m8

never came upon such a heap of junk, my old Scientific-Atlanta-EPC2203 never dropped out like this one,

ED E

@BK can we have the title changed to remove the New so as not to confuse novice members? Compal holds that title now.

zom

"Basically I am saying that WiFi has density limitations" - I work in Dublin 2 and see on my inSSIDer something like 30 different wifis (including 2 from our company). I wonder how long it can grow...

wiz569

zom wrote: »

"Basically I am saying that WiFi has density limitations" - I work in Dublin 2 and see on my inSSIDer something like 30 different wifis (including 2 from our company). I wonder how long it can grow...

Not being too technically minded I wonder what the alternative going forward is?

Pizzle

Hi everyone
I've been having a bit of an issue with this router for quite a while when gaming online.
It works fine for the most part, however there are certain games that I just can't seem to connect to. Ever.

For example, with Arma 3, I can't connect to any server. With Dayz, I get random disconnects with a time out error. If I tether my PC to my phone, I can connect immediately, so that seems to rule out any issue with my machine...which just leaves the router itself. I've turned off everything I can think of in the settings, but nothing appears to work.

I tried port forwarding last night (in case that was the issue) by opening the required ports for Arma...but this didn't seem to work and I kept getting warning messages about the port range and DS-lite enabled. Is it possible to port forward with this router? Has anyone any idea what might be the issue?

You'll have to PM the Virgin Media reps on here and ask them to put you on an IPv4 connection. DS-Lite doesn't support port forwarding.

Pizzle

Karsini wrote: »

You'll have to PM the Virgin Media reps on here and ask them to put you on an IPv4 connection. DS-Lite doesn't support port forwarding.

Last night I tried disabling (unchecked) my IPv6 in the LAN settings, thinking that would do the trick but didn't seem to work.

I didn't realise this was something Virgin Media would actually have to change.

I'll contact the reps! Thanks for the help.

N64

I have attached a wireless router to my UPC connection. Everythings working just fine bar a remote desktop application I'm trying to use. I've tried to open the ports on the new routers side however the ports still don't seem to be open.

Does bridge mode have to be enabled to open ports?

ED E

N64 wrote: »

I have attached a wireless router to my UPC connection. Everythings working just fine bar a remote desktop application I'm trying to use. I've tried to open the ports on the new routers side however the ports still don't seem to be open.

Does bridge mode have to be enabled to open ports?

Youve got Double NAT going on. Yes you will need to bridge/dmz the new router OR stop using as a router and just use it as an access point for better wifi.

spiritcrusher

Hey peoples, I've a question about connecting a wireless speaker over a powerlined network (possibly answered but I can quite understand everything on the previous pages). It's the TP-Link wpa4220 adapter and for the life of me I can't get my wireless speaker (Monitor Audio Airstream) to show up under upnp in MediaMonkey. Connects fine when I go directly through the main router but when I go through the wireless powerline adapter it doesn't show up.
Does this involve all that bridging stuff I've seen mentioned over the last few pages? While I don't know the ins and outs of router and wireless tech I'm not averse to tinkering with settings and whatnot. Any advice would be much appreciated as getting my wireless speaker working in the back end of the house was one of the reasons I bought the powerline kit!

ED E

spiritcrusher wrote: »

Hey peoples, I've a question about connecting a wireless speaker over a powerlined network (possibly answered but I can quite understand everything on the previous pages). It's the TP-Link wpa4220 adapter and for the life of me I can't get my wireless speaker (Monitor Audio Airstream) to show up under upnp in MediaMonkey. Connects fine when I go directly through the main router but when I go through the wireless powerline adapter it doesn't show up.
Does this involve all that bridging stuff I've seen mentioned over the last few pages? While I don't know the ins and outs of router and wireless tech I'm not averse to tinkering with settings and whatnot. Any advice would be much appreciated as getting my wireless speaker working in the back end of the house was one of the reasons I bought the powerline kit!

Sometimes PL adapters filter out some traffic, presumably to improve performance.

I also have 3 wireless access points in my house: my router, an Apple Airport Extreme, and the WPA4220.

Mostly, everything works well. However, when devices are connected to the WiFi on the WPA4220, it appears that Bonjour/multicast traffic does not pass between them correctly.

Seems TP have enabled the option to forward the required traffic.

Root cause of the problem
SSDP packets (239.255.255.250) are not forwarded correctly in powerline network. It should be broadcasted to all powerline clients, but only forwarded to the multicast group. So, if the media server is not in the group, it will not be detected by others through UPnP(DLNA).

Available Solutions
Solution 1:
If the Router supports IGMP function, just enable it. After enabled, the SSDP packets will be forwarded correctly.

Solution 2:
The firmware is available for upgrading. Due to it is beta version and not fully tested, the firmware is not uploaded to website. Please click the link below to download the firmware.
TL-PA211/TL-PA251 (Except North America)
TL-PA211/TL-PA251 (North America only)
TL-PA411 (Except North America)
TL-PA411 (North America only)
TL-PA511/TL-PA551 (Except North America)
TL-PA2010 (Except North America)
TL-PA4010 (Except North America)

http://www.tp-link.com/en/faq-484.html

You'll need to log into the homeplug to upload a firmware fix. Its probably at http://192.168.1.1/.

Alan3002

Alan3002 wrote: »

Here ya go mate. I had this posted elsewhere.

Pre-instructions:
1. Make sure Wi-Free is disabled in your UPC account! This can take up to 72 hours to take effect once disabled.
2. Make sure you are on an IPV4 address and not an IPV6 address. You will need to directly contact UPC to change this.

Instructions:
1.Downloaded the SNMP Program from here http://www.snmpsoft.co...eetools/snmpset.html
2.Placed program on my desktop
3.Right click on program, click properties, compatibility tab, run as administrator
4.Pulled out RF cable on TC7200
5.Held reset button on the TC7200 for 30 seconds using a pin
6.Logged into the TC7200, turned off firewall (not sure if needed)
7.Turned off firewall on my windows machine
8.Connected the Laptop to the TC7200 with a direct connection
9.Clicked windows button bottom left, typed "cmd" into search bar and hit enter. CMD window appears.
10.Dragged the SNMP program onto the CMD window. It should create a line with something like "C:/Program File/User/etcetc/SNMP.exe". Don't press enter yet
11.Copied this line (right click, copy). NOTE: My router address was 192.168.100.1 and not 192.168.0.1 so change in the line of code if needed.
-v:2c -c:public -r:192.168.0.1 -o:1.3.6.1.4.1.4413.2.2.2.1.7.1.1.0 -tp:int -val:1
12.Back on the CMD window, after the SNMP.exe part press spacebar, right click and paste (ctrl + v to paste will not work in CMD window).
13.This should run the program (if not, hit enter), wait a moment, a security window will pop up, hit yes.
14. Plug the RF cable back into the UPC router.
15. Double check that the UPC router IP has changed (ipconfig /all). There may be a delay in this. Once it has changed, log into the router and check to make sure there is fewer options available than before.
16. Unplug your laptop/desktop from your UPC router and directly plug it into your new router.
17. Plug the UPC router into your new router.
18.It should work after that! True bridge mode enabled.

For those interested.

BluE-WinG

Alan3002 wrote: »

For those interested.

Thanks a mil for this. I just got a new router from UPC - the same technicolour one mentioned above. Does this work on the newer firmware, or is this only for the older firmware routers?

Alan3002

BluE-WinG wrote: »

Thanks a mil for this. I just got a new router from UPC - the same technicolour one mentioned above. Does this work on the newer firmware, or is this only for the older firmware routers?

Some users have claimed it works on the newer firmware, although I haven't tried myself.

It's worth a shot!

Seems to be an issue with the link to the program too. It can be found here.

Hannibal_12

Get terrible dropped connections and slow performance with this modem/router, and why oh why cannot not dual broadcast 2.4/5???

Will they offer a superior model or am I singing in the rain???

ED E

Its the cheapo old unit.

Want a dual band unit then upgrade to the 360Mb package. That comes with a COMPAL unit.

J0hnnnn

Hi

My main question is this -
Was there ever a DMZ option on the TC7200? Currently I do not have this option. If there was a DMZ option, is there some .asp file I can use to enable it? I'm specifically talking about DMZ and not the Bridging option.

Currently I cannot access any port on my laptop over the internet (using my internet IP address). I can however access ports on my laptop (LAN side) from my mobile using the local (LAN) IP address for my laptop. This suggests port blocking Wan side.

Some time over the last year UPC got me on IPv6 addressing without my knowledge. This I understand causes problems with port forwarding on the TC7200. I presume if I get Virgin Media to change me to IPv4 addressing that I will be able to open up my ports for assess over the internet?

One other observation I've made -
I have a 100mbit LAN card, so I used get a consistent 92mbs (with cable connection) on my 120mbs connection which was fine with me. However this reduced to a consistent 80mbs at some time during the last year. Virgin Media couldn't/wouldn't give me an explanation. I am reasonably sure that this speed reduction from 92 to 80 is due to firmware updates downloaded by Virgin Media. If I disable WAN blocking and the firewall, I get 87mbs, a bit (excuse the pun) closer to the 92mbs I consistently got for some years.

J0hnnnn

Ok, I can now answer my own questions from my post above -

I got IPv4 back. I now have the DMZ option back. Port forwarding is working again and I can now connect to ports on my laptop over the internet.

Note, my connection speed is back to normal, its now 94mbs, with IPv6 it was 80mbs. IPv6 reduced my connection speed by over 10%.

talking_walnut

Does anybody know if Bridging your modem violates Virgin Medias terms-of-usage or similar?

Gadgetman496

talking_walnut wrote: »

Does anybody know if Bridging your modem violates Virgin Medias terms-of-usage or similar?

No, but they will not support it in that state. If you ever need them to troubleshoot, you would need to factory reset it before they will entertain you.

dub45

J0hnnnn wrote: »

Ok, I can now answer my own questions from my post above -

I got IPv4 back. I now have the DMZ option back. Port forwarding is working again and I can now connect to ports on my laptop over the internet.

Note, my connection speed is back to normal, its now 94mbs, with IPv6 it was 80mbs. IPv6 reduced my connection speed by over 10%.

It has become clear in the VM forum recently that customers can be changed back to DS_lite at any stage. There is no guarantee that even a requested change will last.