Dublin Airport New Runway/Infrastructure.

Micky 32

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Thank you for pointing this out. Should be a total ban on all flights into dublin

Yeah for your own agenda that’s nothing to do with the virus. But keep on dreaming.

jucylucy

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Thank you for pointing this out. Should be a total ban on all flights into dublin

Must have a lot of time on you’re hands not having to fill out those noise complaints these days����

WishUWereHere

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

So as far as I understand all anyone has to do to evade the UK quarantine is fly in to Dublin, spend a few hours at the airport before moving on the UK.

Bizarre anomaly to leave open. Don't think DUB will complain though.

And because the UK have announced it days in advance I imagine people are making their plans already.

Wonder why the delay in implementing this? June 8 am I right? Could understand maybe a 2 day cushion to allow ultra long haul to get 'in', but nearly 2 week cushion?

WishUWereHere

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Thank you for pointing this out. Should be a total ban on all flights into dublin

HOW??? How do we get the PPE from China/S Korea here? Not to mention all the other supplies which come in by plane?

You support the greens, and now want a total ban on incoming flights? :rolleyes:

WishUWereHere

L1011 wrote: »

You are just trolling now. Do not post in this thread again, or attempt similar anywhere else on the forum

OOPS apologies Mod, just seen this message after asking the OP the question on wanting all flights into DUB banned.

Feel free to remove if You wish.

Podge_irl

Blut2 wrote: »

This thought also occurred to me. It seems a rather large loophole.

But then again the whole thing is nonsense - the time for border controls was in March, when the disease was initially spreading. Only introducing them now in June, when every other European country is in the process of removing theirs, is pure security theatre.

Its not complete nonsense. If the disease is endemic in a country, then incoming travellers won't make much difference to the spread. If it is under control in the country, and they are obviously hoping that will be the case, then incoming travellers have the chance to cause it to spread wildly again.

Of course, the UK is nowhere near getting the spread under control so seems a bit pointless. But it actually might make sense in later months.

Blut2

Podge_irl wrote: »

Its not complete nonsense. If the disease is endemic in a country, then incoming travellers won't make much difference to the spread. If it is under control in the country, and they are obviously hoping that will be the case, then incoming travellers have the chance to cause it to spread wildly again.

Of course, the UK is nowhere near getting the spread under control so seems a bit pointless. But it actually might make sense in later months.

The UK currently has the most active infection of any major European country. It would make far more sense for other countries to be quarantining arrivals from the UK, and not the other way around. Statistically arrivals from Germany, France etc are much less likely to have the virus than the UK population.

The time it would have been effective, and made sense to introduce, was in March, when the UK had a much less severe outbreak that other countries. But instead they let tens of thousands of people fly into the country for major sporting events like Cheltenham or Champions League games.

Implementing it in June, when the horse has very much bolted, is pure security theatre - its entirely for the optics of the UK government being able to say "We're doing something!!" to distract from their terrible mishandling of the crisis. Its both not logical in terms of outbreak spread or timing, and according to the WHO its not an effective measure.

Thats why its complete nonsense.

Donegal Storm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Anyone know if runway construction resumed today?

16/34 crossing is well underway now



https://apps.sentinel-hub.com/eo-browser/?lat=53.42727&lng=-6.25685&zoom=14&time=2020-05-20&preset=1_TRUE_COLOR&datasource=Sentinel-2%20L2A

davebuck

What's the general view on the DAA list of proposed projects will they be delayed or dropped completely or a bit of both? Just as well the North runway is so far advanced or it could have been stopped as well.

Pat Dunne

Donegal Storm wrote: »

16/34 crossing is well underway now



https://apps.sentinel-hub.com/eo-browser/?lat=53.42727&lng=-6.25685&zoom=14&time=2020-05-20&preset=1_TRUE_COLOR&datasource=Sentinel-2%20L2A

God bless your eyesight, it’s a very out of focus photo, even using the link.

PCros

davebuck wrote: »

What's the general view on the DAA list of proposed projects will they be delayed or dropped completely or a bit of both? Just as well the North runway is so far advanced or it could have been stopped as well.

Indeed it's probably on the right side of completion.

However, with the pending DAA redundancies I would imagine the north runway may lay idle for a number of years or until normal traffic levels resume at the airport.

MJohnston

PCros wrote: »

Indeed it's probably on the right side of completion.

However, with the pending DAA redundancies I would imagine the north runway may lay idle for a number of years or until normal traffic levels resume at the airport.

Doubt it, the south runway is in need of repairs after all

PCros

MJohnston wrote: »

Doubt it, the south runway is in need of repairs after all

Didn't know that.

Only time will tell I suppose.

Kermit.de.frog

I have a feeling the recovery will be a lot faster than many think, a lot of pent up demand as well. Can see the airport in a very different place this time next year.

MJohnston

Again I'll say it, pent up demand does not necessarily equate to usage - people want to go abroad on holiday, but will they actually make that choice? If this warm weather at home continues, I can see a lot of people not bothering. We'll see how quickly the 14 day quarantine rule lasts too.

Kermit.de.frog

It becomes harder to sustain the timelines and restriction when evidently the disease is increasingly under control not just in Ireland.

In fact the biggest risk country to us appears to be the UK in terms of infections so be interesting to whether we get more selective on our travel ban for countries not so badly effected but maintain for others not there yet.

Hopefully we'll be able to speed things up on this because we need travel in and out of here.

Donegal Storm

Pat Dunne wrote: »

God bless your eyesight, it’s a very out of focus photo, even using the link.

If you compare it to a month ago it should be fairly obvious!

https://apps.sentinel-hub.com/eo-browser/?lat=53.42995&lng=-6.27558&zoom=14&time=2020-04-15&preset=1_TRUE_COLOR&datasource=Sentinel-2%20L2A

MJohnston wrote: »

Doubt it, the south runway is in need of repairs after all

Existing runway was resurfaced in full in 2018/19, surely it doesn't need repairs already..?

Kermit.de.frog

https://twitter.com/DublinAirport/status/1273977573509300224

A bit disappointed with that tweet. We still haven't got over the penny pinching on projects like this in Ireland.

For a relatively small extra length it could handle every commercial aircraft. For some reason they come up short.

jamo2oo9

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/DublinAirport/status/1273977573509300224

A bit disappointed with that tweet. We still haven't got over the penny pinching on projects like this in Ireland.

For a relatively small extra length it could handle every commercial aircraft. For some reason they come up short.

AFAIK, the 225 can take off with a min of 3000m. Needs 3500m for max weight takeoff so if the new runway is 3110m, it would be capable of landing and taking off at DUB however it's also a question if the airport is capable of handling the aircraft with regards to weight capacity of taxiways/runway, the taxiway lighting/signs etc.

IngazZagni

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/DublinAirport/status/1273977573509300224

A bit disappointed with that tweet. We still haven't got over the penny pinching on projects like this in Ireland.

For a relatively small extra length it could handle every commercial aircraft. For some reason they come up short.

So you are promoting the use of an extra €50 million or so just in case 1 aircraft might pop by once in a blue moon? I'm sorry but that's simply ridiculous. Modern aircraft are getting more efficient all the time and the new runway at 3,110 metres will be more than capable for just about everything.

plodder

https://twitter.com/DublinAirport/status/1273977904142188544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Ooh Matron!! :P

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!

Why is our active runway slightly north of west? (28)

Our prevailing wind is south west, would a runway around the 220 mark not make more sense?

sparrowcar

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! wrote: »

Why is our active runway slightly north of west? (28)

Our prevailing wind is south west, would a runway around the 220 mark not make more sense?

Hey Ballymun..... move.
It down to land availability.

goingnowhere

Its smaller sister the 124 has landed with a load of 109 tons in the past and can almost make a MTOW on 28, no issue with MTOW on the new runway

Only 1 225 in the world, quite a few 124's

LXFlyer

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! wrote: »

Why is our active runway slightly north of west? (28)

Our prevailing wind is south west, would a runway around the 220 mark not make more sense?

The original main runway was 05/23 but it involved flying over significant amounts of built up areas at either end.

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!

sparrowcar wrote: »

Hey Ballymun..... move.
It down to land availability.

DUB has been there before Ballymun was developed though

sparrowcar

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! wrote: »

DUB has been there before Ballymun was developed though

Yes but the flats went up in the 60's and the present RWY28 in the late 80's. It was probably to late in the 80's to start trying to aquire land to the south west.

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!

sparrowcar wrote: »

Yes but the flats went up in the 60's and the present RWY28 in the late 80's. It was probably to late in the 80's to start trying to aquire land to the south west.

What was the active runway before 28?

Why wasn't the SW one built in the 1940's from the beginning,?

LXFlyer

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! wrote: »

What was the active runway before 28?

Why wasn't the SW one built in the 1940's from the beginning,?

Eh, I already answered that - three posts before yours.

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!

LXFlyer wrote: »

Eh, I already answered that - three posts before yours.

Apologies. Just saw it now. On touch site with a crappy phone.

Tampex are on special. You seem very irritable.