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Cienciano

Arghus wrote: »

It's a bit mad. Thankfully this thread has stayed - largely - sane, but the OTB thread is a microcosom of how boards seems to be drifting as of late.

There's a lot of really angry posters filling up forums and the subjects and standard of debate can make for pretty grim reading at times. I tend to come away from boards these days feeling a bit depressed and I increasingly wonder if it's worth it. There is so much outraged drivel clogging the place up.

All off topic, of course.

It's the layout. 2 idiots arguing can have a thread top of the most popular boards like after hours for weeks. At this stage boards doesn't want to complete with more popular layouts like reddit because it might as well offer something different. Boards is like Nokia around 2009.
Lots of smaller boards have move to different platforms too. I use the PES board for doing organised leagues and we all moved to discord. It's 100 times better

Ivefoundgod

I'm a member since 2008 though I was a regular visitor prior to that as well. I haven't really contributed a huge amount outside of the specialist forums or specific threads like here. Unfortunately I'd agree with Arghus, the place has become overrun with alt-right, shinner bots and a plethora of other trolling posters. You can generally avoid that by sticking to the specialist forums and threads like this but there has been the occasional poster on this thread who has tried (unsuccessfully i might add which is a credit to the rest of posters) to stoke up some of that alt-right nonsense. Generally coincided with one of Kens politics podcasts.

After Hours and Current affairs have become complete cesspits and I avoid them usually though I do like to read up on the latest shinner outrage or if theres something topical I'll have a read. I find that once a thread is open for over 10+ pages it descends into the same few posters arguing over and over. I noticed recently that the same 10 or less posters are currently having pretty much the same arguement in the "FF/FG/GP government thread" and the "has SF vanished thread". I don't think there is a solution to it really and its shame as AH used to be compulsive reading for me when I was in college.

I find r/ireland is good but theres a significant number of similar posters over there too but the downvotes often takes care of them.

I used to play in the PES league Cienciano, that was a good friendly community so glad to see you are keeping it going even if its outside of boards. I suspect that is what will eventually happen with most of the smaller communities.

Hotblack Desiato

Obrieski wrote: »

A shocking story really, very tough upbringing.
Really shone a light on the work of Marcus Rashford when you hear first hand how he used to walk to school aged 5 or 6 just so he could eat.

Something is very, very wrong in that society and has been for a long time.

Arghus

Ken was struggling to keep up with your man at times yesterday.

Not that I wasn't either of course.

Smell the glove

elefant wrote: »

I mean, whatever about his reasons for not wanting to share the other part of his life with new acquaintances, that's a ridiculous false equivalence. This guy is a household name for vast swathes of the country.

I genuinely never heard of him 🀣

Salvation Tambourine

I burst out laughing at Ken's description and likeness to a Simpsons character of an angry Klopp yesterday

ongarite

Ken really has his vigour back now that he has ample ammunition from Frank Lampard's Times newspaper puff piece.

BikeRacer

ongarite wrote: »

Ken really has his vigour back now that he has ample ammunition from Frank Lampard's Times newspaper puff piece.

I can't believe you've said the 'F' word.

Say Your Number

I do agree with Ken anytime you see someone parrot those stupid American buzzwords, you know you're not in the presence of an intellectual heavyweight.

CiaranW

Say Your Number wrote: »

I do agree with Ken anytime you see someone parrot those stupid American buzzwords, you know you're not in the presence of an intellectual heavyweight.

Normally I wouldn't agree with anything Ken Early has to about..... But I agree on this one.

jaykay74

I noticed a few times recently Ken invent dialogue between people like a discussion between VAR lads and the the ref in today's pod regarding the arsenal game. In classic football speak. Worth the monthly fee alone

Might have done it in the chat with Wilson and MD last day or so too.

yermandan

'Mikel Arteta turns up at the post-match press conference wearing a tie made out of a fox's tail'

healy1835

Ken's desciption of Suarez as 'The Messi Whisperer' the other day

unplayable

is ken off the fags again i wonder..

JuanJose

unplayable wrote: »

is ken off the fags again i wonder..

Hmmmm...not sure but, as he admitted recently, his brain doesn't function normally in the AM. Isn't that where his dubbing of on-field conversations started?
More early morning podcasts so, please!

EltonJohn69

A dark day for Frank. It’s crazy that things like this can happen.

ongarite

If Jose loses today, then Ken will be in his element tomorrow.

EltonJohn69

ongarite wrote: »

If Jose loses today, then Ken will be in his element tomorrow.

Frank smashed !
Jose masterclass !!
Luiz humiliated !!!
I wouldn’t be surprised if Ken is absent tomorrow.

Prediction: Richie Sadler doing the football show tomorrow.

Ol' Donie

There was no Jose masterclass today.

He crossed his fingers amd hoped Arsenal did an Arsenal, which of course they did.

EltonJohn69

Ol' Donie wrote: »

There was no Jose masterclass today.

He crossed his fingers amd hoped Arsenal did an Arsenal, which of course they did.

Jose was like a relentless bloodhound today. It was foolish for so many to write him off.

siblers

Apart from the tribute to Jack, today's episode was very boring

I don't think they needed to spend that much time on City

Brock Turnpike

siblers wrote: »

Apart from the tribute to Jack, today's episode was very boring

I don't think they needed to spend that much time on City

Agree. Especially not with the bluffer Delaney being one of the guys they chose to discuss it with.

MercuryBoy

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Agree. Especially not with the bluffer Delaney being one of the guys they chose to discuss it with.

+1

I also found it odd that in addition to UEFA not knowing their own rules, it seems no journalist has read them either..surely some journalist could have spotted the "5 year time bar" rule before all of this went to appeal ?

Ol' Donie

MercuryBoy wrote: »

+1

I also found it odd that in addition to UEFA not knowing their own rules, it seems no journalist has read them either..surely some journalist could have spotted the "5 year time bar" rule before all of this went to appeal ?

Isn't it really, really weird that nobody anywhere noticed this?

Nobody in Uefa, none of their lawyers, no journos anywhere?

FFP rules aren't even that old, surely whoever wrote it was paying even a tiny bit of attention to it's most high profile use ever?

Ol' Donie

https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2020/jul/14/david-squires-on-the-life-and-times-of-jack-charlton

I don't recall ever being moved to tears by a cartoon before

Jim Root

Ol' Donie wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2020/jul/14/david-squires-on-the-life-and-times-of-jack-charlton

I don't recall ever being moved to tears by a cartoon before

gave me goosebumps that.

MercuryBoy

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Isn't it really, really weird that nobody anywhere noticed this?

Nobody in Uefa, none of their lawyers, no journos anywhere?

FFP rules aren't even that old, surely whoever wrote it was paying even a tiny bit of attention to it's most high profile use ever?

Yeah, and that nobody has mentioned it either! It doesn't add up at all, a quick search through the FFP rules online shows the 5 year time limit...

dr.kenneth noisewater

MercuryBoy wrote: »

Yeah, and that nobody has mentioned it either! It doesn't add up at all, a quick search through the FFP rules online shows the 5 year time limit...

The alleged offences took place between 2012-16 some were within the 5 year window but most took place outside it. I heard on the Athletic podcast(I think) discussing it that they hoped they could show a pattern and the time limit wouldn't matter or something along those lines.
The details only emerged in 2018 so they had to be seen as doing something I think.

MercuryBoy

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

The alleged offences took place between 2012-16 some were within the 5 year window but most took place outside it. I heard on the Athletic podcast(I think) discussing it that they hoped they could show a pattern and the time limit wouldn't matter or something along those lines.
The details only emerged in 2018 so they had to be seen as doing something I think.

I see, seems fairly obvious that UEFA wanted to put up the pretence of punishment and City always knew it was a charade...what's strange is that everyone else took UEFA so seriously ... The likes of Miguel Delaney made it out to be: "A seismic moment in the game ...yada yada"....it seems they didn't have a leg to stand on...

Ol' Donie

MercuryBoy wrote: »

I see, seems fairly obvious that UEFA wanted to put up the pretence of punishment and City always knew it was a charade...what's strange is that everyone else took UEFA so seriously ... The likes of Miguel Delaney made it out to be: "A seismic moment in the game ...yada yada"....it seems they didn't have a leg to stand on...

Well, when you say took Uefa seriously, did anybody in the whole world actually think it would happen? The ban I mean.