Second Captains

Brock Turnpike

Still Ill wrote: »

Ah, lads.. We all knew what we were signing up for. It's a general sports podcast.. Listen to the bits that interest you and if you feel like you're not getting your fiver's worth then maybe have an extra pint every month instead or something.

I'll often ask the bar man in my local for a partial refund if I don't finish my pint. I should only be paying for what I drink.

Raoul

StockTwat29 wrote: »

The way some people are giving out about the GAA shows it's clear that they don't even listen to them and are happy to just disregard them

Thought the GAA shows have been good enough this year, not Duignans biggest fan but love the two football lads, Murph is very passionate about it and does add a bit to the discussions (will admit that sometimes he doesn't add much to other discussions and tries to be too funny)

One thing that did annoy me a bit was that Mayo seemed to be the main talking point of most shows, yes they usually have the best stories but it gets a bit repetitive

There wasn't much else worthwhile talking about was there? It's been an awfully boring championship, the Mayo Donegal match being about the only memorable game.

hankless

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

I'll often ask the bar man in my local for a partial refund if I don't finish my pint. I should only be paying for what I drink.

I bring a weighing scales with me and insist the barman provides 473.176475 grams (a pint) of beer.

If 473.176475 grams doesn't fit in the glass I am obviously entitled to reimbursement for the over-spill.

EltonJohn69

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

I'll often ask the bar man in my local for a partial refund if I don't finish my pint. I should only be paying for what I drink.

I don’t think that’s a correct analogy.... if the bar man serverd your 4/5 of a Guinness pint (football content) along with 1/5 of a cider pint (gaa content).... you would be more then entitled to ask for partial refund or at least a full pint of Guinness

dr.kenneth noisewater

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

I'll often ask the bar man in my local for a partial refund if I don't finish my pint. I should only be paying for what I drink.

I don’t think that’s a correct analogy.... if the bar man serverd your 4/5 of a Guinness pint  (football content)  along with 1/5 of a cider pint (gaa content).... you would be more then entitled  to ask for partial refund or at least a full pint of Guinness

Its sports podcast not a soccer one. If the Totally Football Show started doing one show a week on GAA then I'd understand where you're coming from maybe

Trent Houseboat

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

I don’t think that’s a correct analogy.... if the bar man serverd your 4/5 of a Guinness pint (football content) along with 1/5 of a cider pint (gaa content).... you would be more then entitled to ask for partial refund or at least a full pint of Guinness

No, if you'd signed up to a football podcast, and had gotten a mixture of football and other sports your analogy might work. Or if you didn't want to pay for political podcasts you'd have a point, but since they're once every two months of, it's closer to getting a Guinness head on your eighth pint of cider (I know a person who used to drink this).

Arghus

I presumed the OP was joking when he posted about wanting a discount.

MercuryBoy

hankless wrote: »

it's a solid journalistic investment.

I always found the "independent journalism" schtick a bit of a spoof, they aren't breaking exclusive stories or anything, it's usually just the lads talking about the events of the weekend (which is grand)

Raisins

MercuryBoy wrote: »

hankless wrote: »

it's a solid journalistic investment.

I always found the "independent journalism" schtick a bit of a spoof, they aren't breaking exclusive stories or anything, it's usually just the lads talking about the events of the weekend (which is grand)

I don’t think it’s really a spoof it’s not about exclusive stories. The lads are free to be as critical as they want to be on any topic and to select any guests they want to have on any topic. The other pods don’t have that luxury. Look at newstalk banning any journalists from the Irish Times. The GAA hour doing all the odds on matches etc is pathetic given the damage gambling does to the GAA. Do you think the GAA hour would have oisin mcconville on? Places like the Irish Times and Guardian are the closest in terms of independence but they will use their own journalists almost all the time. The lads are not bound by any of that which improves the content in a practical way.

Beersmith

Raisins wrote: »

Not true the lads go on about mourinho/ pep etc but they also analyse the games and the tactics in the sport itself. You wouldn’t ever have guys like Johnathan Wilson or Tim Vickery or Michael Cox or Rory Smith as guests if you weren’t interested in discussing that side of the game.

How can you argue that Rugby and GAA are more likely than soccer to bore those not interested in those games? People who are not interested in soccer generally despise the wall to wall coverage they don’t love “the gossip or opinionated stuff”. If you’ve decided you’re not interested in a sport you probably won’t enjoy a discussion about it.

You’re a soccer fan who wants more soccer chat it’s as simple as that but the lads are running a sports podcast which suits a lot of Irish people that track multiple sports and have a passing interest in others. There’s loads of soccer pods if that’s what you want.

Second captains barely ever talk about the games, its only about the stories of the managers etc. Who said what afterwards.

MercuryBoy

Raisins wrote: »

I don’t think it’s really a spoof it’s not about exclusive stories. The lads are free to be as critical as they want to be on any topic and to select any guests they want to have on any topic. The other pods don’t have that luxury. Look at newstalk banning any journalists from the Irish Times. The GAA hour doing all the odds on matches etc is pathetic given the damage gambling does to the GAA. Do you think the GAA hour would have oisin mcconville on? Places like the Irish Times and Guardian are the closest in terms of independence but they will use their own journalists almost all the time. The lads are not bound by any of that which improves the content in a practical way.

Fair enough but they generally talk about the Premiership and I haven't heard them take any extreme/independent viewpoint on much in the last few years, when they initially started the Patreon thing it was pitched as an anti-dote to the world of fake news etc which in retrospect seems a bit OTT, maybe "independent entertainment" would be more appropriate... Still a great listen though...

elefant

MercuryBoy wrote: »

Fair enough but they generally talk about the Premiership and I haven't heard them take any extreme/independent viewpoint on much in the last few years, when they initially started the Patreon thing it was pitched as an anti-tote to the world of fake news etc which in retrospect seems a bit OTT, maybe "independent entertainment" would be more appropriate... Still a great listen though...

Extreme isn't a synonym for Independent.

Independent journalism doesn't mean what you think it does.

RedRochey

I think they mean independent as in they are their own bosses, they're not owned by some big company, they don't have sponsors, that sort of stuff

deisedude

Google the definition of "independent" and you get the following

1. free from outside control; not subject to another's authority.
2. not depending on another for livelihood or subsistence.

Independent journalism simply means they have full creative control and nobody is telling them what to do or paying their wages

Its fairly groundbreaking what they have done. There isn't too many podcasts making money from a subscription model out there

MercuryBoy

StockTwat29 wrote: »

I think they mean independent as in they are their own bosses, they're not owned by some big company, they don't have sponsors, that sort of stuff

Yeah, and it's definitely better than the likes of the Totally Football Show with the Paddy Power sponsorship...It's just that the content (other than Ken Early) isn't that much different from the other popular football podcasts out there... same guests etc

tomwaits48

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

I don’t think that’s a correct analogy.... if the bar man serverd your 4/5 of a Guinness pint (football content) along with 1/5 of a cider pint (gaa content).... you would be more then entitled to ask for partial refund or at least a full pint of Guinness

Seriously?

Beersmith

MercuryBoy wrote: »

Yeah, and it's definitely better than the likes of the Totally Football Show with the Paddy Power sponsorship...It's just that the content (other than Ken Early) isn't that much different from the other popular football podcasts out there... same guests etc

I listen to both. Wouldn't agree that that the paddy power thing is bad. I mean i dont pay for content and skip the ads. Its actually more hassle trying to skip the several second captains audio beds in every episode.

Also the TFS doesn't have stupid hot keys. Much prefer the SC lads but TFS isn't to be sneared at.

dulux99

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

If you can prove you haven’t listened to any of the gaa podcasts can you get a partial refund from second captains/patreon ?

Wow.

Jeez mate if you're that stuck I'll set up a standing order to refund you the roughly €2 a month you feel your being cheated out of.

The Peter O'Mahony interview was so bad it was good. I'm glad they were able to laugh about how bad it was!

Utopia Parkway

dulux99 wrote: »

The Peter O'Mahony interview was so bad it was good. I'm glad they were able to laugh about how bad it was!

I kinda knew it would be bad beforehand as POM is famously taciturn but I started listening anyway. Lasted a few minutes and just fast forwarded through it.

Arghus

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

I kinda knew it would be bad beforehand as POM is famously taciturn but I started listening anyway. Lasted a few minutes and just fast forwarded through it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DKXS-NphLU

hankless

Can someone explain the definition of 'Scumbag of the Week'...is it someone trying to take a cut off them or something else?

I would love to text into Pat Kenny on Newstalk some day and try to get him to read out the charisma of a sickbag, no not you, ME, quote someday

CD-R 80

Does anyone think Murph is funny?

Obrieski

CD-R 80 wrote: »

Does anyone think Murph is funny?

Don't see how this is even remotely relevant on a sports podcast?
You want comedy go and download a different podcast.

I find Murph a valued member of the podcast.
Just Ken and Eoin this past week - you'd miss having the 3rd member in there.

corwill

CD-R 80 wrote: »

Does anyone think Murph is funny?

Yes, I do.

The Davestator

CD-R 80 wrote: »

Does anyone think Murph is funny?

I actually laugh out loud at some of the stuff he says. I love him as much as the rest of them.

Brock Turnpike

corwill wrote: »

CD-R 80 wrote: »

Does anyone think Murph is funny?

Yes, I do.

Are you a culchie?

Utopia Parkway

Murph has his moments to be fair to him. Whether it's Ken's lack of schtones or his Meath man accent.

CD-R 80

Obrieski wrote: »

Don't see how this is even remotely relevant on a sports podcast?
You want comedy go and download a different podcast.

I find Murph a valued member of the podcast.
Just Ken and Eoin this past week - you'd miss having the 3rd member in there.

Whoa whoa, calm down there darling.

I don’t miss him and I’m certainly not a subscriber for comedy reasons but his rehashed Simpson’s gags are certainly old hat at this stage.

His contributions to the podcast are very limited in my opinion.

blackwave

My only gripe with second captains is that I find their hurling coverage to be poor enough.

corwill

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Are you a culchie?

What has that got to do with anything? Do you have an issue with people from outside of Dublin?