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    #632
    DUBLINHITMAN
    Registered Users Posts: 790 ✭✭✭DUBLINHITMAN


    Funny that they same lawyer representing the lads was forced on other so called home soil terrorists. Forget her name thou


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    #633
    RecordStraight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭RecordStraight


    DUBLINHITMAN wrote: »
    Funny that they same lawyer representing the lads was forced on other so called home soil terrorists. Forget her name thou
    They gave him someone with experience of defending terrorists? Lucky guy.


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    #634
    omnithanos
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 710 ✭✭✭omnithanos


    RecordStraight wrote: »
    I tried to raise this in another thread but obviously made a balls of it, so having looked at the charter, I'll try again.

    Dzhokar Tsarnaev's lawyer has admitted that he and his brother carried out the bombing. With this new information, I would like to put forward the theory that he conspired with his brother to carry out this bombing for ideological/religious reasons - hopefully more will come out in the trial. Whether others were involved in the conspiracy is not yet clear, but it seems that only Dzhokar is being tried, so either they can only prove that it was he and his brother, or they have not put a case together against any other members of the conspiracy.

    The defence appears to be that his (dead) brother (who can't defend himself or disagree) unduly influenced him into taking part.

    As this appears to be a fake trial it doesn't really matter what he pleads. It will best suit everyone involved if he gets the death penalty so that they can fake his death and give him a new identity for services rendered as patsy to the state.

    I started a thread on this in news and media as I objected to RTE reporting as fact that three people were killed and 264 people were injured when overwhelming evidence goes against the unproven "theory" that this was a real bombing.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057392401
    As you can see a moderator suggested they'd be pretty concerned if RTE started reporting the conspiracy theories of paranoid and deluded people as facts and my attitude was labeled disgusting. Another poster suggested that unless I could put forward any type of real evidence to disprove the "official story", then they are going to agree that what RTE is reporting is fact despite the lack of necessary proof or evidence. Hardly a balanced approach. I was then asked how much skunk I was consuming and it was suggested that all the images on Google might be fake.
    Clearly none of the above is conducive to logical and intelligent debate so perhaps I should post my crazy theories here instead?


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    #635
    Hoop66
    Registered Users Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    What reason would there be to stage a fake bombing?



    * instantly regrets getting drawn into this *


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    #636
    omnithanos
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 710 ✭✭✭omnithanos


    Hoop66 wrote: »
    What reason would there be to stage a fake bombing?



    * instantly regrets getting drawn into this *

    Hi Hoop,

    Population control, Martial law training, further restricting people's civil liberties under the guise of fighting terrorism, relinquishing citizens of their constitutional rights, invading peoples homes, confiscating legally held arms, having the power to lock people away under the vague suspicion of being a terrorist without trial by jury.


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    #637
    Hoop66
    Registered Users Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    * regret intensifies *


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    #638
    RecordStraight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭RecordStraight


    omnithanos wrote: »
    As this appears to be a fake trial it doesn't really matter what he pleads. It will best suit everyone involved if he gets the death penalty so that they can fake his death and give him a new identity for services rendered as patsy to the state.
    Does it make sense to leave him alive, if what you propose is true?:confused:


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    #639
    NewCorkLad
    Registered Users Posts: 957 ✭✭✭NewCorkLad


    Hoop66 wrote: »
    What reason would there be to stage a fake bombing?



    * instantly regrets getting drawn into this *

    They staged the sandy hook shooting aswell, there is nothing they wont do :rolleyes:


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    #640
    RecordStraight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭RecordStraight


    NewCorkLad wrote: »
    They staged the sandy hook shooting aswell, there is nothing they wont do :rolleyes:
    Funny that nobody around Sandy Hook thinks it was staged, and that the kids never existed, but plenty of people very far away think that...


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    #641
    omnithanos
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 710 ✭✭✭omnithanos


    RecordStraight wrote: »
    Does it make sense to leave him alive, if what you propose is true?:confused:

    Sure isn't his brother still alive. Isn't that him in the picture climbing out of the boat where he was supposedly shot.


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    #642
    omnithanos
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 710 ✭✭✭omnithanos


    RecordStraight wrote: »
    Funny that nobody around Sandy Hook thinks it was staged, and that the kids never existed, but plenty of people very far away think that...

    If you clink my other thread you can see some interesting stuff I posted on the sandy hook actors at the end of the thread.


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    #643
    omnithanos
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 710 ✭✭✭omnithanos


    NewCorkLad wrote: »
    They staged the sandy hook shooting aswell, there is nothing they wont do :rolleyes:

    And don't forget the Colorado Batman shootings.


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    #644
    NewCorkLad
    Registered Users Posts: 957 ✭✭✭NewCorkLad


    omnithanos wrote: »
    If you clink my other thread you can see some interesting stuff I posted on the sandy hook actors at the end of the thread.

    I had a look at your links, there is a population of 7.125billion on earth they managed to find some people who look similar, the only thing I see proof of is that some people have too much time on there hands.


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    #645
    weisses
    Registered Users Posts: 9,451 ✭✭✭weisses


    Hoop66 wrote: »
    What reason would there be to stage a fake bombing?



    * instantly regrets getting drawn into this *

    Got you there ... Hoop line and sinker :D


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    #646
    omnithanos
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 710 ✭✭✭omnithanos


    NewCorkLad wrote: »
    I had a look at your links, there is a population of 7.125billion on earth they managed to find some people who look similar, the only thing I see proof of is that some people have too much time on there hands.

    Let's take this in baby steps.
    First off did a plane hit the Pentagon on 911?
    One lie leads to another.


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    #647
    degrassinoel
    Registered Users Posts: 10,737 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    omnithanos wrote: »
    Let's take this in baby steps.
    First off did a plane hit the Pentagon on 911?
    One lie leads to another.


    9/11 forum is up here


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    #648
    RecordStraight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭RecordStraight


    omnithanos wrote: »
    Sure isn't his brother still alive. Isn't that him in the picture climbing out of the boat where he was supposedly shot.
    That doesn't address my question though.

    Why would it make sense to keep Dzhokar alive?


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    #649
    omnithanos
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 710 ✭✭✭omnithanos


    RecordStraight wrote: »
    That doesn't address my question though.

    Why would it make sense to keep Dzhokar alive?

    Well the fact that they staged the bombing with a fake bomb and staged the killing of the brother means that they don't appear to kill people indiscriminately.
    Keeping this dude alive is no different in my eyes than letting all the actors who played a part in the deception live. They are all being well paid too with millions going into their respective donation websites from donations by the american people.


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    #650
    RecordStraight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭RecordStraight


    omnithanos wrote: »
    Well the fact that they staged the bombing with a fake bomb and staged the killing of the brother means that they don't appear to kill people indiscriminately.
    Keeping this dude alive is no different in my eyes than letting all the actors who played a part in the deception live. They are all being well paid too with millions going into their respective donation websites from donations by the american people.
    But why does it make sense from the government's perspective to keep him alive? Explain the logic to me please.


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    #651
    omnithanos
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 710 ✭✭✭omnithanos


    RecordStraight wrote: »
    But why does it make sense from the government's perspective to keep him alive? Explain the logic to me please.

    I'm only making assumptions, I can't give you answers but if it was me on trial and I knew it was all faked I wouldn't be going along with them unless I had been cut some kind of lucrative deal.
    There are already hundreds of people in on this scam so what difference is one more?
    Perhaps he knew the part he was playing all along?

    What happened to the passengers from the four 9/11 planes, only two of which were reported to have taken off that day. The mayor of Cleveland reported that United 93 landed safely at Cleveland airport at 10:45 (not to be confused with Delta 1989 which landed at 10:10) and approximately 200 people were seen going by foot towards the NASA building. Whatever happened to them after that is a mystery.


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    #652
    RecordStraight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭RecordStraight


    omnithanos wrote: »
    I'm only making assumptions, I can't give you answers but if it was me on trial and I knew it was all faked I wouldn't be going along with them unless I had been cut some kind of lucrative deal.
    I agree. So rather than cut a lucrative deal that leaves the guy alive to spill the beans in future/be caught out, why not have killed him already? :confused:

    Unless the official story is true?
    omnithanos wrote: »
    There are already hundreds of people in on this scam so what difference is one more?
    Perhaps he knew the part he was playing all along?
    Or there are no people involved except him, his brother, and any other people who supported them?
    omnithanos wrote: »
    What happened to the passengers from the four 9/11 planes, only two of which were reported to have taken off that day. The mayor of Cleveland reported that United 93 landed safely at Cleveland airport at 10:45 (not to be confused with Delta 1989 which landed at 10:10) and approximately 200 people were seen going by foot towards the NASA building. Whatever happened to them after that is a mystery.
    Not relevant to this case, I'm afraid. I'm trying to understand the logic of why you think the Boston Bombing was a false flag attack.


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    #653
    omnithanos
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 710 ✭✭✭omnithanos


    My opinion that the bombings were faked is based on a logical conclusion derived from evidence of the hundreds of videos out there showing that the bombing was faked.

    As I did not have any hand in planning the operation I cannot give definite answers as to the why or the how. I think we should first accept which is the most logical conclusion based on all the evidence put forward. How can a man who has just lost both legs sit upright in a wheelchair and not leave a trail of blood?

    Perhaps it was a satanic ritual arranged to correspond with the anniversary of the sinking of the Titanic. Anybody who would do such a thing is obviously deranged so that would make a satanic ritual a logical assumption. Maybe they are waiting to kill the dude until the next new moon?
    Perhaps it was done to give the US Government more power over the American people as I have put forward before. It appears these events are staged to give them the authority to bypass constitutional rights and throw anybody who speaks out against them into a Fema camp without a trial.

    What logical reason would these two brothers have for discharging two bombs at the boston marathon? What did it serve to gain them? All you are talking about is a smaller conspiracy. 9/11 was huge and took years to plan.
    The events of 9/11 are relevant in showing how the US Government have form in lying and staging such events.


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    #654
    RecordStraight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭RecordStraight


    omnithanos wrote: »
    My opinion that the bombings were faked is based on a logical conclusion derived from evidence of the hundreds of videos out there showing that the bombing was faked.
    You will forgive me if I do not accept the Youtube postings of random speculators as solid 'evidence'. You can find 'evidence' of any crazy thing on Youtube.


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    #655
    davwain
    Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭davwain


    Mr.Fred wrote: »
    Doubt it.

    The US Attorney's Office, however, alleges two brothers who were radicalized carried out the bombings. Prosecutors hope the judge will sentence the surviving Tsarnaev brother (Dzokhar) to death. If there's one thing the two sides can agree on, it's that D. Tsarnaev had a role in the bombings (something he admitted to).


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    #656
    omnithanos
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 710 ✭✭✭omnithanos


    RecordStraight wrote: »
    You will forgive me if I do not accept the Youtube postings of random speculators as solid 'evidence'. You can find 'evidence' of any crazy thing on Youtube.

    Please explain how the guy in the wheelchair who had just lost both legs was able to sit up & didn't leave a trail of blood behind him?


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    #657
    RecordStraight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭RecordStraight


    omnithanos wrote: »
    Please explain how the guy in the wheelchair who had just lost both legs was able to sit up & didn't leave a trail of blood behind him?
    Had he received any treatment at that point?


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    #658
    omnithanos
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 710 ✭✭✭omnithanos


    RecordStraight wrote: »
    Had he received any treatment at that point?

    No. He had a whatyacallit tied around his leg but it was loose & therefore not doing anything.
    Some YouTube videos are nuts like the obvious fake planes with disappearing wings flying right into the twin towers. To Claim they are all nuts is not rational. The video I posted of wheelchair guy & cowboy guy using actual images of.the bombing has convinced me it was faked as wheelchair guy is part of the official story.


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    #659
    RecordStraight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭RecordStraight


    omnithanos wrote: »
    No. He had a whatyacallit tied around his leg but it was loose & therefore not doing anything.
    A tourniquet? But a tourniquet stops bleeding...Perhaps the loose bit was the loose bit of the strap? :confused:


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    #660
    omnithanos
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 710 ✭✭✭omnithanos


    RecordStraight wrote: »
    A tourniquet? But a tourniquet stops bleeding...Perhaps the loose bit was the loose bit of the strap? :confused:

    Maybe watch the video. It's called Boston bombing bamboozle. if you still think he suffered legitimate injuries we will have to agree to disagree.


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    #661
    RecordStraight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭RecordStraight


    omnithanos wrote: »
    Maybe watch the video. It's called Boston bombing bamboozle. if you still think he suffered legitimate injuries we will have to agree to disagree.
    Just looked at it. You can see the tight part of the tourniquet right at the top of his thighs, the crossed bits lower down aren't the bits doing the job. Look again. 1.21 in the video. His left hand is right next to the taught bit of the tourniquet at the top of his leg.


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