Boston Bombing

DazMarz

Two bombs exploded at the finish line of the Boston Marathon. 2 dead, 23 injured so far. All over Sky News.

Plenty of names of suspects getting bandied about already.

Personally I feel it is some right-wing, domestic, gun-nut crowd in America, rather than a foreign threat.

Mr.Fred

DazMarz wrote: »

Personally I feel it is some right-wing, domestic, gun-nut crowd in America, rather than a foreign threat.

Doubt it.

delthedriver

Gosh. Absolutely shocking. Why?

Clandestine

I have my money on a false flag op

super_furry

DazMarz wrote: »

Personally I feel it is some right-wing, domestic, gun-nut crowd in America, rather than a foreign threat.

Clandestine wrote: »

I have my money on a false flag op

Based on what?

TwoShedsJackson

As if they have to be based on anything.

Torakx

I would first want to know what the targets were exactly.
I know one was at the marathon finish line.
The other two im not sure.

Just saw on another search that the 14th-15th april is Israels independance day.

DazMarz

All the recent talk of more gun control in the USA. Some right wing nutjob gets pissed off. Decides to send a "message". Maybe it wasn't, but I'd be willing to say it was.

Blatter

NY post (questions over how reliable this paper is) are claiming that a Saudi national is being guarded as a suspect in hospital.

Clandestine

Blatter wrote: »

NY post (questions over how reliable this paper is)

Its not reliable at all

A Primal Nut

Let me do the "hard" work for the Conspiracy Theorists:

1) The US government did it to...em..well I can't think of a motive but its always them.

2) Actually it might be the jews. Coz people in Boston marathon runners are famous for opposing Zionism..or something like that. Plus some random jew was about to run the marathon and pulled out at the last minute because he "felt sick". Co-incidence? I think not!

3) Evacuating buildings and running anti-terrorism procedures is just a way to build fear into populations.

4) Unless people ended up dying in those buildings, in which case its because the government doesn't care about people from Boston. Why didn't they evacuate famous buildings and begin anti-terrorism procedures?? Oh wait, they did..hmm..well they're definitely up to something.

Mod: Banned


On a serious note, RIP to those who died.

zonEEE

Unforgettable _ Fire wrote: »

Wow. This place never ceases to amaze me. An 8 year old has died, and someone's first thoughts are "Hurr durr, 'Muricans did it lolz". Not looking for a ban, so I'll leave it at saying I find this morally reprehensible.

this is the conspiracy theories forum.......

zonEEE

hmmmm

http://kardkrazy.ecrater.com/p/8506823/illuminati-joggers-world-order-game

Brown Bomber

Unforgettable _ Fire wrote: »

Wow. This place never ceases to amaze me. An 8 year old has died, and someone's first thoughts are "Hurr durr, 'Muricans did it lolz". Not looking for a ban, so I'll leave it at saying I find this morally reprehensible.

Wait a second.

1 - If you are "amazed" at current events being discussed in the context of a conspiracy theory in a forum called "conspiracy theories" then you need to take a look at yourself.

2 - If you are offended by "conspiracy theories" then you probably shouldn't be clicking on a forum where conspiracy theories are discussed.

3 - You'll save yourself the amazement and offense if you actually read the words that are written. NOBODY has said America carried it out.

4 - Nobody thinks it's funny.

Yitzhak Rabin

I'm not trying to lessen the tragedy in Boston, and my heart does go out to innocent people who decided to go and run competitively and ended up losing limbs, or their life. Its utterly sickening, and I really hope the perpetrator(s) are caught and see some justice (they won't ever see full justice)

But it is also worth pointing out that 55 people were killed and scores more injured in bombings in Iraq today. That's a huge death toll, and it barely gets a look in.

Both horrible tragedies, but western media will only give a fcuk about one of them.

Brown Bomber

Torakx wrote: »

I would first want to know what the targets were exactly.
I know one was at the marathon finish line.
The other two im not sure.

Just saw on another search that the 14th-15th april is Israels independance day.

It's also "Patriot Day" in Boston. It's a holiday that is celebrated in Boston and is tied into the marathon. It celebrates the first battle of the American Revolution.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Lexington_and_Concord

It's the first I've heard of the bombing so I don't know anything about it but I could imagine "Patriot Day" and the marathon being symbolic to some Obama is a Muslim/anti-christ type.

Torakx

If those deaths where from a drone strike in the middle east it would be just put down to casualty of war..with an oh well attitude.
There is a famine going on in the North Korean countryside.I dont hear complaints and RIP's in that thread either.
And there are kids dying right now this minute from starvation there.

Talking about this topic is not morally reprehensible,if you mean the thread overall.

It was certainly not a good thing that happened in Boston.
Personally I see it as being no different from people being killed daily in other parts of the world.
Innocents caught up in stupidity.
Some of the comments above are in bad taste,though.

Does anyone have any info on the targets?
Apart from the marathon finish line.

Was an airport targeted too?


Edit: Patriot day sounds more likely a reason than the Israeli independance day.
Strange they are on the same day.

Torakx

zonEEE wrote: »

hmmmm

http://kardkrazy.ecrater.com/p/8506823/illuminati-joggers-world-order-game

Hmm... that is a strange one.

Brown Bomber

It was Patriots’ Day on April 19, 1993, when the Mount Carmel Center in Waco, Texas, went up in flames, allegedly on the orders of Branch Davidian leader David Koresh. At least 72 people died. At the time of the fire, the group was locked in a stand-off with federal agents.

It was Patriots’ Day on April 19, 1995 when Timothy McVeigh detonated a bomb made of fertilizer, diesel fuel, and other chemicals outside a federal building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 people.

It was the day after Patriots’ Day–April 20, 1999–when teenagers Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold killed 12 students and one teacher at Columbine High School before committing suicide.

And it was on Patriot’s Day today, April 15, 2013, when two explosions near the finish line of the Boston Marathon left two dead and 86 injured.
http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/04/15/patriots-day-waco-oklahoma-city-columbine-and-now-boston/

zonEEE

Torakx wrote: »

Hmm... that is a strange one.

Very, is there a final number of people dead yet? The last I heard was 2 (although there is other reports).

On the card attack = +2 :O

Brown Bomber

Actually I 'd disregard that last article I just posted. It's bull****. The date only became significant by chance. Or at least beware of the blind alleys the author directs you down.

Video footage proves that the Branch Davidians were burned out by the Feds (and the military). The article implies it was a mass suicide based on the date. The only reason the date was important to McVeigh (OKC Bomber) and his attack was due to the murder that took place that day. His attack was in part a revenge attack on behalf of the victims of Waco.

Columbine may or may not be connected to the date, I don't know.

thiarfearr

DazMarz wrote: »

Two bombs exploded at the finish line of the Boston Marathon. 2 dead, 23 injured so far. All over Sky News.

Plenty of names of suspects getting bandied about already.

Personally I feel it is some right-wing, domestic, gun-nut crowd in America, rather than a foreign threat.

Doubt it, a group trying to make a political statement would surely hit a political target? Attacking the end of a marathon where people from all over the world run for fun or charity wouldn't advance any political agenda, left or right.

More than likely some lone nutcase imo


Also, probably unrelated, but several members of families related to victims of the Sandy Hook massacre were apparently seated in the VIP area near where the blasts went off

Brown Bomber

If it was a "Patriot" pro-gun types that carried out the attacks this will be a coincidence. This is the front cover of this weeks magazine from Boston's biggest newspaper. http://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2013/04/14

zonEEE

If they blame pro gun groups then we are set to see the dollar collapse.

http://www.jeffhead.com/dhsinterview.htm

Watch the metals he says, when they dip, **** is going to hit the fan, gold and silver had a mega drop over the past few days.

ro_chez

Brown Bomber

thiarfearr wrote: »

Doubt it, a group trying to make a political statement would surely hit a political target? Attacking the end of a marathon where people from all over the world run for fun or charity wouldn't advance any political agenda, left or right.

More than likely some lone nutcase imo

Also, probably unrelated, but several members of families related to victims of the Sandy Hook massacre were apparently seated in the VIP area near where the blasts went off

I agree with you. I think you've missed a trick though. There is one group with a motive - the state. By attacking families at a day out at a wholesome, family event they induce fear in the average accountant, taxi driver, Mom, Grandma and everyone in between. It creates a climate of fear and a feeling that they are under the attack and need the state to protect them. This enables the state to remove civil rights and to grab power.

I'm not saying that this is likely the case but merely that there is motive. Tragedies like this don't need to have any logic to them though.

A final point is that if it does transpire that it was a right-wing extremist or group like the Aryan Nation then it should be known the extent that these groups are infilitrated.

PATCON

The FBI’s Secret War Against the ‘Patriot’ Movement, and How Infiltration Tactics Relate to Radicalizing Influences

http://www.newamerica.net/publications/policy/patcon

PHIDIAS

BREAKING NEWS: Police will have controlled explosion on 600 block on Boylston Street Alert posted at 12:53pm
https://twitter.com/BostonGlobe/status/323886829596205056

Officials: There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities. Alert posted at 12:53pm
https://twitter.com/BostonGlobe/status/323886879453892609

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi8P9BMomrI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeTjpzfeC0U

Some interesting finds today...:(

Cookie_Monster

zonEEE wrote: »

this is the conspiracy theories forum.......

so only hours after the event, with no evidence about anything its ok to just start screaming "It a conspiracy" because it's such a current topical occurance?

I find nothing wrong with discussion of the subject, but to have it instantly posted in here seems kind of low.

event

zonEEE wrote: »

this is the conspiracy theories forum.......

and thats a fair point. But surely then people should be putting forward actual theories and why you think that, instead of just saying:

DazMarz wrote: »

Personally I feel it is some right-wing, domestic, gun-nut crowd in America, rather than a foreign threat.

Clandestine wrote: »

I have my money on a false flag op

RUSTEDCORE

I am not a conspiracy guy but if you watch V for vendetta it is about a government forcing complete obedience through fear. They create such terrifying supposed terrorist acts that the public turn to the government for saving.. the government promises them safety and peace but demands sacrifice of the most basic human rights.

Now im not the guy the care about this beast 666 stuff and all the weird crap people find but the blatant stuff that doesnt make sense and abundance of unlikely coincidences must mean somethings up.

It makes no sense for USA to go to war so much unless they are training for something bigger.

9/11 and everything since has just been dodgy and everyone sees it but nobody can or would do anything.

PHIDIAS

PHIDIAS wrote: »

BREAKING NEWS: Police will have controlled explosion on 600 block on Boylston Street Alert posted at 12:53pm
https://twitter.com/BostonGlobe/status/323886829596205056

Officials: There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities. Alert posted at 12:53pm
https://twitter.com/BostonGlobe/status/323886879453892609

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi8P9BMomrI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeTjpzfeC0U

Some interesting finds today...:(

Not really,

Skip to 2:26 in this video for the missing gore video explanation...its not blood and guts, its just a flag blowing away

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P5ATXS9OiQ

The controlled explosion tweets were posted at 9:53 by the Boston Globe twitter page, the first reports of the marathon explosion were an hour before that...no clue what you're going for with that comment.

And the other video is really just an embarrassing pile of cock.

beans

This is audio of a podcast released 31/03/2013 which predicts some kind of event to be staged within a couple of weeks.

I've only just heard news of the bombing, but immediately thought of hearing this.

beans

beans wrote: »

This is audio of a podcast released 31/03/2013 which predicts some kind of event to be staged within a couple of weeks.

I've only just heard news of the bombing, but immediately thought of hearing this.

He says 2 weeks not a couple of weeks, he says Austin, not Boston.

Every day thousands of conspiracy theorists babble on about impending false flags and other such nonsense on message boards, podcasts etc...taking all of this into account his prophecy is a tad underwhelming.

zonEEE

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beans

beans wrote: »

This is audio of a podcast released 31/03/2013 which predicts some kind of event to be staged within a couple of weeks.

I've only just heard news of the bombing, but immediately thought of hearing this.

Have a look through this forum. People claim that there is going to be some kind of event to be staged within a couple of weeks all the time.
They never come to pass, but say it repeatedly enough times for long enough and eventually something will happen in that time frame.
And again as will all tragedies some people will find stuff that they believe shows it's a false flag, so you can claim any event is staged.

The question is why, if this guy had access to any information about the attack or the upcoming attack, did he not provide any details?

studiorat

Brown Bomber wrote: »

4 - Nobody thinks it's funny.

Yusss! Conspiracy theories are serious business.

the_syco

PHIDIAS wrote: »

BREAKING NEWS: Police will have controlled explosion on 600 block on Boylston Street Alert posted at 12:53pm
https://twitter.com/BostonGlobe/status/323886829596205056

Officials: There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities. Alert posted at 12:53pm
https://twitter.com/BostonGlobe/status/323886879453892609

Were these for the two other devices that they found?

beans

King Mob wrote: »

Have a look through this forum. People claim that there is going to be some kind of event to be staged within a couple of weeks all the time.
They never come to pass, but say it repeatedly enough times for long enough and eventually something will happen in that time frame.
And again as will all tragedies some people will find stuff that they believe shows it's a false flag, so you can claim any event is staged.

The question is why, if this guy had access to any information about the attack or the upcoming attack, did he not provide any details?

Stopped clock, and all that. I know. If nothing else, its an interesting coincidence.

The contention was that something would be staged in the US, not specific to Texas, in reaction to the damp squib that the NK scare would prove to be, to keep panic levels up for whatever reason. Now I'm not glad about this, nor saying that the call was anything other than a chance occurrence, but thought it was suitable to a CT thread on the subject.

Penn

A few posts deleted and posters infracted/banned.

This is from the Forum Charter:

The very nature of a conspiracy theory means that it will be unpalatable to some. Individuals, Corporations, Interest Groups, and collectives of all sorts will inevitably be suspected (and accused) of involvement in any manner of activities.

This forum is for the discussion of Conspiracy Theories. If anyone has a problem with people discussing conspiracy theories about a breaking event, I would suggest you simply do not post. Report any posts you feel requires the attention of a moderator, or simply don't read the thread at all.

Jonny7

Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »

Both horrible tragedies, but western world media will only give a fcuk about one of them.

Correction, we only give a fcuk about one of them.

I don't see a 3 page thread calling the attacks in Iraq this week or last a false flag, never saw anything on the snooker hall blasts in Quetta.

beans

beans wrote: »

The contention was that something would be staged in the US, not specific to Texas, in reaction to the damp squib that the NK scare would prove to be, to keep panic levels up for whatever reason.

Just like the damp squib that the fake shootings would result in guns being banned.
Or before that where a sikh temple shooting would result in whatever.
Or the various other terrorist plots that have come and pass.
Or the various health scares.

Whenever one crisis passes without the NWO etc launching their evil plot, conspiracy theory writers just go back to random prediction mode until then next event, which will pass and the cycle continues.
Sometimes the people claiming stuff about the previous event are decried as "dis-info agents".

I'm not sure why you find the clip interesting or worthy of reposting...

weisses

Brown Bomber wrote: »

If it was a "Patriot" pro-gun types that carried out the attacks this will be a coincidence. This is the front cover of this weeks magazine from Boston's biggest newspaper. http://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2013/04/14

Yeah i doubt you will see her in the vicinity of a running event

Sacksian

Jonny7 wrote: »

Correction, we only give a fcuk about one of them.

I don't see a 3 page thread calling the attacks in Iraq this week or last a false flag, never saw anything on the snooker hall blasts in Quetta.

+1

The obsession with events involving the US is much stronger in Conspiracy Theory forums and discussion boards than it is in the "mainstream media" (whatever that is) of "the Western world" (is this geographic or political shorthand?) where stories extend beyond the US and its political allies and interests.

Also, there were quite a few people from Boards who had trained for the past few months, and years, to be in Boston yesterday at the marathon. Many people will have known others who were there or who had ran Boston - it's not unusual or sinister that this will be discussed more than tragedies in countries where fewer people from Ireland visit or have experience of.

Sacksian

Sacksian wrote: »

+1

The obsession with events involving the US is much stronger in Conspiracy Theory forums and discussion boards than it is in the "mainstream media" (whatever that is) of "the Western world" (is this geographic or political shorthand?) where stories extend beyond the US and its political allies and interests.

Also, there were quite a few people from Boards who had trained for the past few months, and years, to be in Boston yesterday at the marathon. Many people will have known others who were there or who had ran Boston - it's not unusual or sinister that this will be discussed more than tragedies in countries where fewer people from Ireland visit or have experience of.

And yet still:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22149863
The story was the 3rd on the most read (and 4th on the most shared )list right under the Boston stories.

seanmacc

Its funny how adult cartoons reference these events before they happen. Remember the Simpsons and 911?

Oryx

American Government need to catch someone for this. And they very soon will. But will it be the right person, or just a person that fits the profile?

Allan Blandford

The bomb squad were doing training exercises at the beginning of the race.
Maybe they used live bombs by mistake!

Brown Bomber

FOX News Pundit. http://english.alarabiya.net/en/business/media/2013/04/16/-Kill-all-Muslims-says-Fox-News-pundit-in-sarcastic-Boston-bomb-tweet.html

Brown Bomber

weisses wrote: »

Yeah i doubt you will see her in the vicinity of a running event

Camera adds 10 pounds!

Tzar Chasm

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Camera adds 10 pounds!

how many cameras did they use

was there an unexploded bomb found at the scene, there already seem to be contradictory reports.

it dosent seem to have been a suicide bomber, but the design of the devices seemsfrom accounts to be fairly generic.

my money's on domestic nutter at the moment

seanmacc

seanmacc wrote: »

Its funny how adult cartoons reference these events before they happen. Remember the Simpsons and 911?

Eh, what? There's been over 200 episodes of Family Guy and it's set in New England. When a city is almost destroyed because of someone having a fight with a chicken I think it'd be fair to say that it was an odd coincidence.