Eir Fibre Rollout Mapping

Marlow · 17-10-2018 06:27PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm a little confused by some of this. I live within about 120m of a cabinet that has gone live in Dublin 5, yet all of the testing sites I visit say that the only speeds available to me are up to 100Mbps.

Cabinets have nothing to do with FTTH. FTTH is fed from the exchange. So to avail of FTTH, the exchange (not the cabinet) needs to be FTTH enabled.

Cabinets will only relate to FTTC, which is VDSL and max 100 Mbit/s

/M

17-10-2018 11:22PM

Thanks a million lads / ladettes

tsue921i8wljb3 · 17-10-2018 11:25PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Thanks a million lads / ladettes

No problem. I meant to say to you that you can check availability with your Eircode here

https://www.eir.ie/broadband/1000mb-fibre/

just in case you are in one of the few urban areas that have FTTH.

copperspock · 20-10-2018 02:31PM

Alec Dirty Pun wrote: »

No problem. I meant to say to you that you can check availability with your Eircode here

https://www.eir.ie/broadband/1000mb-fibre/

just in case you are in one of the few urban areas that have FTTH.

'Great News!
Fibre to the Home is available at..' Woohoo, finally! I didn't notice them doing any work recently but I'm guessing I wouldn't get a false positive?

tsue921i8wljb3 · 20-10-2018 02:56PM

copperspock wrote: »

'Great News!
Fibre to the Home is available at..' Woohoo, finally! I didn't notice them doing any work recently but I'm guessing I wouldn't get a false positive?

I have no reason to believe it would be a false positive.

You should be able to order services from any of the ISPs listed here with a green home icon:

https://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/where-to-buy/

WhatsGoingOn2 · 20-10-2018 04:18PM

copperspock wrote: »

'Great News!
Fibre to the Home is available at..' Woohoo, finally! I didn't notice them doing any work recently but I'm guessing I wouldn't get a false positive?

I get that too, but when I put in my phone number it is not available. Not available on airwire site either, so good be a false positive

tsue921i8wljb3 · 20-10-2018 04:25PM

WhatsGoingOn2 wrote: »

I get that too, but when I put in my phone number it is not available. Not available on airwire site either, so good be a false positive

All FTTH is ordered through Eircode. It not being available for your phone number is not an indication that you can't order. Often there is an issue with matching phone numbers to Eircodes.

However the Airwire checker tends to be updated more often so if your Eircode is failing on that it would be more indicative of an issue.

Marlow · 20-10-2018 04:48PM

If it's failing on the Airwire checker, then the Eircode might have been matched to the wrong subscriber line on the Eir checker.

Fibre-lines and Eircodes are 2 different databases. If they've updated with files from different dates, they've made a mess.

Failing on the phone number is less indicative. They've not always joined that data properly up. Probably one of the reasons, why you can't check on phone number on the Airwire checker.

/M

WhatsGoingOn2 · 20-10-2018 05:03PM

Marlow wrote: »

If it's failing on the Airwire checker, then the Eircode might have been matched to the wrong subscriber line on the Eir checker.

Fibre-lines and Eircodes are 2 different databases. If they've updated with files from different dates, they've made a mess.

Failing on the phone number is less indicative. They've not always joined that data properly up. Probably one of the reasons, why you can't check on phone number on the Airwire checker.

/M

I am getting ports not available.
Have already ordered through Airwire, they say it will be available early December. First got notification that it was due to go live early August after Eir initially saying early 2018, so all very frustrating. ( And obviously not Airwires fault, their communication on the situation has been excellent)

Marlow · 20-10-2018 05:37PM

WhatsGoingOn2 wrote: »

I am getting ports not available.
Have already ordered through Airwire, they say it will be available early December. First got notification that it was due to go live early August after Eir initially saying early 2018, so all very frustrating. ( And obviously not Airwires fault, their communication on the situation has been excellent)

One of those exchanges, where OpenEIR got in trouble with the build so. Unfortunate, but at least there is a timeline.

The reason it's available on Eirs checker then is because they ignore the flag, that the port is unavailable. Not helping the situation.

/M

UrbanFret · 24-10-2018 10:16PM

I got FTTH 3 weeks back. I am still not on the map and when I put in my phone number it is not available.
Make of that what you will?

tsue921i8wljb3 · 24-10-2018 10:22PM

UrbanFret wrote: »

I got FTTH 3 weeks back. I am still not on the map and when I put in my phone number it is not available.
Make of that what you will?

The map has not been updated since May and looks unlikely to be in the future. The phone number and Eircode databases eir use are separate and in a lot of cases the Eircode is not matched to the number which is why it is failing. Enjoy the new connection!

UrbanFret · 24-10-2018 10:39PM

Alec Dirty Pun wrote: »

The map has not been updated since May and looks unlikely to be in the future. The phone number and Eircode databases eir use are separate and in a lot of cases the Eircode is not matched to the number which is why it is failing. Enjoy the new connection!

Thanks. Its been a great change from 5mb to 50mb. 140 if you are close to the router and have a 5G device.;)

AirBiscuit · 29-10-2018 05:07PM

They're fairly far behind in West Mayo if cabinets need the fibre which is being strung on the poles in order to function, the road between Newport and Mulranny is one done as far as 53°54'24.5"N 9°39'49.7"W
https://goo.gl/maps/tbhRXn4B1aq with Mulranny already due to be live since the summer

Marlow · 29-10-2018 06:01PM

AirBiscuit wrote: »

They're fairly far behind in West Mayo if cabinets need the fibre which is being strung on the poles in order to function, the road between Newport and Mulranny is one done as far as 53°54'24.5"N 9°39'49.7"W
https://goo.gl/maps/tbhRXn4B1aq with Mulranny already due to be live since the summer

Cabinets only refers to VDSL as in FTTC. There is no real estimation, whey or if they will complete those, as they're going to roll out FTTH to urban areas from next summer.

All that's being focused on right now is FTTH.

/M

AirBiscuit · 29-10-2018 09:29PM

Marlow wrote: »

Cabinets only refers to VDSL as in FTTC. There is no real estimation, whey or if they will complete those, as they're going to roll out FTTH to urban areas from next summer.

All that's being focused on right now is FTTH.

/M

I had it wrong so. I thought they were doing FTTC in an area first then FTTH once the cabinet was live.

Marlow · 29-10-2018 10:46PM

AirBiscuit wrote: »

I had it wrong so. I thought they were doing FTTC in an area first then FTTH once the cabinet was live.

No. The rollout of FTTC and FTTH is completely independant. In most cases it's actually the other way around.

The cab may have been dropped, but they only fibre connect it once the FTTH deployment is done in the area and while they have the crew around.

Seen that happening in a few places. Cabinet typically going live a month after FTTH is done and dusted.

/M

k3v1n · 16-11-2018 11:58AM

UrbanFret wrote: »

I got FTTH 3 weeks back. I am still not on the map and when I put in my phone number it is not available.
Make of that what you will?

Ditto for me .... sort of. I saw the telegraph poles outside the house and it looked like FTTH was imminent. I called Eir sales and they took my number, ran a 'test' and told me it wasn't available at my address. After seeing a note here somewhere (thanks whoever that was) that a lookup by eircode was more accurate, I tried again the following day - this time via online chat and quoted my eircode instead. Lo and behold.... we **can** get FTTH and it's ordered and due to be installed next week.

Western Seagull · 19-11-2018 08:11PM

CONGRATULATIONS, THIS IS FANTASTIC INFORMATION

I have failed to add an exchange location at the following location:

Clerihan
Ballycornane
Co. Tipperary
52.413170, -7.756581

It is a Fibre Active Small Exchange exactly at the coordinates provided.

I am a new user so maybe do not have access yet.
I am logged in to my gMail Account so that is not the issue anyway.
Maybe someone can add this for me.
Thanks,

GSRNBP · 06-12-2018 11:07AM

I live off the Navan Road in Dublin 7 (Blackhorse Ave side rather than Cabra side) and don't have fibre in the area - there were 3 or 4 KN vans around yesterday morning and then a KN engineer with an ipad going to all the poles in the area for about 2 hours. I'm guessing that's related to eir fibre rollout meaning maybe it will be available in my area soon?

tsue921i8wljb3 · 06-12-2018 01:27PM

GSRNBP wrote: »

I live off the Navan Road in Dublin 7 (Blackhorse Ave side rather than Cabra side) and don't have fibre in the area - there were 3 or 4 KN vans around yesterday morning and then a KN engineer with an ipad going to all the poles in the area for about 2 hours. I'm guessing that's related to eir fibre rollout meaning maybe it will be available in my area soon?

I would imagine it is related to fibre. Were they telephone poles or electricity poles they were surveying? I'm not sure if KN do surveying for SIRO. Soon might be being over optimistic though. Probably six months at least if they are only starting now.

Marlow · 06-12-2018 01:49PM

Alec Dirty Pun wrote: »

I would imagine it is related to fibre. Were they telephone poles or electricity poles they were surveying? I'm not sure if KN do surveying for SIRO. Soon might be being over optimistic though. Probably six months at least if they are only starting now.

SIRO uses various companies (Celtic Fibre, KN, TLI, Obelink, Actavo, Huawei, etc.) across the board .. so it's not impossible.

But KN also does work for ESB.

Until the DPs go up, it's not going to be sure.

/M

06-12-2018 11:54PM

This might be a really stupid question and there are are way too many posts here to go back to see if it's already been answered....but do you have to have an eircom landline to avail of their fibre broadband service??
We had our landline disconnected recently, although the cables etc are still coming to the house.

Now I've heard that they are starting to bring fibre to our area and naturally I'd be interested.

Marlow · 06-12-2018 11:58PM

inthehat wrote: »

This might be a really stupid question and there are are way too many posts here to go back to see if it's already been answered....but do you have to have an eircom landline to avail of their fibre broadband service??
We had our landline disconnected recently, although the cables etc are still coming to the house.

Now I've heard that they are starting to bring fibre to our area and naturally I'd be interested.

For VDSL (FTTC) .. yes. But most providers will reconnect that for you.

For FTTH (fibre all the way into your home) ... NO !!

So when you say fibre broadband service, you need to specify, what you're talking about. What Eir calls "eFibre" is not really fibre. It's copper to a cabinet.

/M

07-12-2018 12:32AM

Marlow wrote: »

you need to specify, what you're talking about.

/M

Thanks Marlow.
I realise now I haven't the faintest idea what i'm talking about

However after some frantic googling I think it's the one where they'll be using the existing cable ( we're really out in the sticks here) so I guess it's VDSL, and hopefully as you say they will reconnect us.

Marlow · 07-12-2018 12:36AM

inthehat wrote: »

( we're really out in the sticks here)

Other way around.

If you're really out in the sticks, it's going to be a new shiney fibre all the way into the house.

Check https://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/ .. find your premise on the map and if it has a house logo, then it's fibre.

If it's in a green shaded area, then it's copper ... what Eir call "eFibre".

/M

GSRNBP · 07-12-2018 12:44PM

Alec Dirty Pun wrote: »

I would imagine it is related to fibre. Were they telephone poles or electricity poles they were surveying? I'm not sure if KN do surveying for SIRO. Soon might be being over optimistic though. Probably six months at least if they are only starting now.

I think it was phone (I think power might be underground on my street) but not positive. Thanks

eoin.h · 04-01-2019 06:30PM

UrbanFret wrote: »

I got FTTH 3 weeks back. I am still not on the map and when I put in my phone number it is not available.
Make of that what you will?

UrbanFeet, I'm curious as to how you went about ordering FTTH without being on the map?

tsue921i8wljb3 · 04-01-2019 08:34PM

eoin.h wrote: »

UrbanFeet, I'm curious as to how you went about ordering FTTH without being on the map?

The map on fibrerollout is not accurate and cannot be relied upon. As open eir have progressed they have added premises to their build that were never marked on the map and are still not as the map has not been updated for months.

The only way to know if you are covered is to enter your Eircode on one of the retail ISP checkers:

http://www.airwire.ie/avail

https://www.eir.ie/broadband/1000mb-fibre/

If your premises passes on one or both of these you should be able to order.

Thoie · 09-01-2019 01:25PM

Marlow wrote: »

No. The rollout of FTTC and FTTH is completely independant. In most cases it's actually the other way around.

The cab may have been dropped, but they only fibre connect it once the FTTH deployment is done in the area and while they have the crew around.

Seen that happening in a few places. Cabinet typically going live a month after FTTH is done and dusted.

/M

Trying to get my head around FTTC vs FTTH.

There's a "fibre" enabled exchange about 1km (by road - it's 500m as the crow flies) from my house. There's another one about 2km away. Both of these are showing in the https://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/ as being live for fibre, but also say "xxx premises in this exchange can now access up to 100Mb/s fibre broadband" (which sounds like FTTC, not FTTH). There's a 3rd exchange, about 2.5km away saying "xx can now access up to 100Mb/s fibrebroadband with yyy premises able to access 1000Mb/s fibre"

So I'm guessing Exchange 3 is properly fibre enabled, and the first two aren't?

There are two FTTC enabled cabinets between my house and Exchange 1. Someone in Eir told me that for proper FTTH, cabinets have nothing to do with it. I had kind of assumed once an exchange was enabled, then they'd use the existing fibre to the cabinet, and then just introduce new fibre the last bit from the cabinet to the house. But he made it sound like you'd bypass the cabinet and your fibre cable would run directly from your house all the way to the exchange. That doesn't sound right - you'd end up with 13k+ individual cables all arriving in to a single exchange. Is that really how it's done?

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