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nikon D3100 argos E294

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    Could be a mis-price, it's £299 on the UK site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭loki7777


    Price is fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭DubOnHoliday


    Just got one in Stephens Green. Good price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭tigershould


    good price. was only looking at this a couple of weeks ago and its €100 more at most other places.

    http://www.currys.ie/Product/NIKON-D3100-Digital-SLR-Camera-with-1855mm-Zoom-Lens/298363/176


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭imitation


    Dang thats temptingly cheap !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭Columbia


    That's a great price. I bought this camera at Christmas, I think it was 395 or 399 then, and it was worth that money, so 295 is great.

    It's an ideal first DSLR for a beginner. The interface has a guide mode that explains a lot of terms (the first time you see the screen it can look intimidatingly complex), general use is fairly easy, and picture quality is excellent for the price.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 18,115 ✭✭✭✭ShiverinEskimo


    The only catch I can see is that it's marked as the non-VR kit lens. The camera itself doesn't have Vibration Reduction/Image Stabilisation so I'm not sure if the Argos product carries an inferior lens.

    The Amazon version is clearly marked as a VR lens kit:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nikon-Digital-Camera-18-55mm-14-2MP/dp/B00403MA4M

    EDIT - in fact there was a non-VR version and here is some more info on the differences. It seems to be a fairly inferior lens:

    http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D3100/D3100A4.HTM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭DubOnHoliday


    The only catch I can see is that it's marked as the non-VR kit lens. The camera itself doesn't have Vibration Reduction/Image Stabilisation so I'm not sure if the Argos product carries an inferior lens.

    The Amazon version is clearly marked as a VR lens kit:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nikon-Digital-Camera-18-55mm-14-2MP/dp/B00403MA4M

    Even so, a good price even it was just the camera body.


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 18,115 ✭✭✭✭ShiverinEskimo


    Even so, a good price even it was just the camera body.

    Fair point. The body-only option on Amazon for example is £260. Works out at about 307 euro.

    The newer version of this camera the D3200 with the VR lens kit is £408 (€480).

    Here's the Argos stock checker link for this Bargain Alert:

    http://www.checkargos.com/StockCheckPage.php?productId=559%2F9523


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭Notch000


    The only catch I can see is that it's marked as the non-VR kit lens. The camera itself doesn't have Vibration Reduction/Image Stabilisation so I'm not sure if the Argos product carries an inferior lens.

    It would be the standard Nikor 18-55mm which is a very good lens in iteslf, much better than the cannon offering

    you wont miss VR, i had a D40 with no VR and now have a D5100 No VR and never missed it. Ironically i got my D4 cheap in 2009 off bargain alerts, so it gone full circle and hopefully someone wil get s good treat off this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    VR is useful but it's not essential. Just don't go around trying to take handheld shots at 1/10s and you'll be fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭dmcg90


    Anyone got a reservation for Galway?


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 18,115 ✭✭✭✭ShiverinEskimo


    I disagree with you in regards to the VR. Think it's very useful in certain awkward situations and anything that reduces the need to haul a tripod around is a bonus for me.

    Overall though I don't want to take away from what is a good bargain - regardless of lenses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    I disagree with you in regards to the VR. Think it's very useful in certain awkward situations and anything that reduces the need to haul a tripod around is a bonus for me.

    Overall though I don't want to take away from what is a good bargain - regardless of lenses.

    You are right about this being an inferior lens, as it's not just the VR that's missing - I believe the 18-55 kit lens' optics were also upgraded when the VR version was introduced.

    This is a €260 ready-to-go DSLR though, and a great intro to photography, and so I wouldn't worry too much about the kit lens, it'll either be accepted as-is or outgrown and replaced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭imitation


    Does this model have autofocus or does it need an AF lens ?Was thinking of upgrading my A200, but I don't think I would hack not having AF.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    imitation wrote: »
    Does this model have autofocus or does it need an AF lens ?Was thinking of upgrading my A200, but I don't think I would hack not having AF.

    Needs AF-S (lens with auto focus motor) lenses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭funkyouup


    According to the argos description the lens does have a motor, im very confused.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭slegs


    funkyouup wrote: »
    According to the argos description the lens does have a motor, im very confused.

    No one ever said it didnt have autofocus? It doesnt have VR image stability but besides from that the two lens options for the Nikon 3100 are identical.

    18-55mm f/3.5-5.6GII AF-S DX Nikkor.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭slavedave


    The lens does have a motor but not the image stabilisation function of a VR lens. Just note that the non VR lens has been mentioned as being "inferior" to the VR lens. This may be true optically - you can have a look on the dpreview guide for the camera, but it is all relative. Nikon are widely regarded as fantastic lens manufacturers amongst their peers. The standard lens is still a great lens - it just won't allow you to shoot pictures as easily in low light conditions as the VR lens. If this is an important consideration for you then don't forget that, almost invariably, you will get hooked by photography when you get a dslr and will want to buy other lenses in any case.

    The D3100 doesn't have a motor in it's body to power lenses (unlike the higher spec Nikons) therefore it has to employ lenses with their own motors in ( or you can go manual but that is soo retro - using older lenses that fit it).

    You won't go wrong with the camera at that price though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭DubOnHoliday


    funkyouup wrote: »
    According to the argos description the lens does have a motor, im very confused.
    This is the lens that came with mine... http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-18-55mm-3-5-5-6G-AF-S-Nikkor/dp/B000LWJ1ES
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/477230-USA/Nikon_2170_18_55mm_f_3_5_5_6G_ED_II.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    funkyouup wrote: »
    According to the argos description the lens does have a motor, im very confused.

    Yes, this lens has an auto-focus motor, because this camera body does not and therefore must use AF-S lenses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭Bowlardo


    Lads,

    Planing on buying th GF a camera for her birthday. She will only be taking photos of Holidays, parties and concerts.
    She would like something that would have great picture quality and is easy to bring in her bag

    I had it in my head to get her a decent one - Nikon or Cannon. the budget is €300.

    Should I definitely get this? this would surely meet her requirements would it not?

    I have not researched too much on what camera to get but if someone with a bit of knowledge could let me know that would be greatly appeciated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    Bowlardo wrote: »
    Lads,

    Planing on buying th GF a camera for her birthday. She will only be taking photos of Holidays, parties and concerts.
    She would like something that would have great picture quality and is easy to bring in her bag

    I had it in my head to get her a decent one - Nikon or Cannon. the budget is €300.

    Should I definitely get this? this would surely meet her requirements would it not?

    I have not researched too much on what camera to get but if someone with a bit of knowledge could let me know that would be greatly appeciated

    Nah, too big and awkward for casual in-the-bag use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭Bowlardo


    Nah, too big and awkward for casual in-the-bag use.

    Are you sure Kenny? She carries around pretty big bags :)

    If not this what would you recommend?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    Bowlardo wrote: »
    Are you sure Kenny? She carries around pretty big bags :)

    If not this what would you recommend?

    This is more suited to somebody getting into photography, taking the time to learn about exposure, aperture, shutter speeds, ISO, and upgrading lenses etc. etc.

    I wouldn't rate it for the uses you mentioned above (some concert venues don't even allow DSLRs), IMHO you'd see better results with a good point and shoot camera - some have many of the same features and comparable picture quality.

    I have no idea about those, but there's a good list here -

    http://snapsort.com/recommend#!general=price&price=275&type=mirrorless


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    This is more suited to somebody getting into photography, taking the time to learn about exposure, aperture, shutter speeds, ISO, and upgrading lenses etc. etc.

    I wouldn't rate it for the uses you mentioned above (some concert venues don't even allow DSLRs), IMHO you'd see better results with a good point and shoot camera - some have many of the same features and comparable picture quality.

    I have no idea about those, but there's a good list here -

    http://snapsort.com/recommend#!general=price&price=275&type=mirrorless

    Nikon V-1 looks good...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭GalwayGaillimh


    E35 Cashback as well via Nikon's Spring Promotion
    http://www.nikon.co.uk/sites/cashback/offer-roi-spring13.html

    Si Deus Nobiscum Qui Contra Nos



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 544 ✭✭✭coffee to go


    Bowlardo wrote: »
    Lads,

    Planing on buying th GF a camera for her birthday. She will only be taking photos of Holidays, parties and concerts.
    She would like something that would have great picture quality and is easy to bring in her bag

    I had it in my head to get her a decent one - Nikon or Cannon. the budget is €300.

    Should I definitely get this? this would surely meet her requirements would it not?

    I have not researched too much on what camera to get but if someone with a bit of knowledge could let me know that would be greatly appeciated

    I would have felt that for the uses you describe, a compact travelzoom would best fit the bill. The Lumix TZ30 would be a fine choice at your budget (20x optical zoom, starting at 24mm at the wide end, great for landscapes, but zooming in to 480mm, great for travel and concerts, full HD video and GPS):

    http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/5598067/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CPhotography%7C14419436/c_2/3%7Ccat_19780865%7CDigital+cameras%7C14419441.htm

    Review:

    http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/panasonic_lumix_dmc_tz30_review/

    (I'd say you'll get it cheaper than that Argos link too if you hunt around some other stores)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    I got this Nikon L810 for 150 euro brand new in Argos at Christmas for my missus.

    Reduced from 308 euro to 150 euro.

    Fantastic camera for the money.

    Went and bought one for myself too.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,359 ✭✭✭Access


    paddy147 wrote: »
    I got this Nikon L810 for 150 euro brand new in Argos at Christmas for my missus.

    Reduced from 308 euro to 150 euro.

    Fantastic camera for the money.

    Went and bought one for myself too.:)

    You have two of the same camera in the same house? could you not just share one and save a bit of money? :confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Access wrote: »
    You have two of the same camera in the same house? could you not just share one and save a bit of money? :confused:



    One for my girlfriend (red) and 1 for me (blue).

    No harm in that.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭boobar


    Notch000 wrote: »

    Is this the same camera that is over 300 sterling on amazon?

    If it is I think it's a great deal, have been thinking about getting one for a while now, I might jump if this is the same one as Amazon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Canonfan


    Nikon cash back plus Argos 10 euro voucher before 9th April, good price!

    I have a reservation code for Jervis shopping centre, whoever pm me first will get it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,554 ✭✭✭CH3OH


    boobar wrote: »
    Is this the same camera that is over 300 sterling on amazon?

    The lens on the Argos 3100 is the non VR ( vibration reduction), wheras the Amazon model has the newer VR lens
    This link suggest that the newer lens is much better

    http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D3100/D3100A4.HTM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭Ryaner


    You will notice the lack of VR at 55mm in darker situations more than you'll notice the difference in optical quality. Mainly due to the ISO having to compensate.
    Get something like http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/35mm-f18.htm and you'll have an amazing piece of kit. Perfect lense for most normal shots.

    The cash back comes pretty quickly too. Bought a new camera and lense back in Jan and had the prepaid card two weeks later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    Access wrote: »
    You have two of the same camera in the same house? could you not just share one and save a bit of money? :confused:
    How dya know that?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    dodzy wrote: »
    How dya know that?


    Maybe he has some special telephatic/pyschic powers......:pac::pac::D





    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22Tj_l4PcPs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭paddym1


    I have a reservation for Nutgrove valid until this (Thursday) evening (it is a great deal, but after I made the reservation I realised the car tax is due.....).

    I will send the reservation number to the first person who pm's me for it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,359 ✭✭✭Access


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Maybe he has some special telephatic/pyschic powers......:pac::pac::D

    Ah, no paddy... you told me you had two of the same camera... one for you and one for your missus...
    I got this Nikon L810 for 150 euro brand new in Argos at Christmas for my missus.

    Reduced from 308 euro to 150 euro.

    Fantastic camera for the money.

    Went and bought one for myself too.

    Just think its a bit mad to have bought two for the exact same camera in one house... could ye have not have just bought one and shared it to take photos on?

    Think of all the LED bulbs you could have bought with the spare €150 you could have saved! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭slegs


    Have a reservation code for this for Naas Argos Extra that I wont use. First come first served by PM.... (expires today 9pm)

    --

    Code given by PM.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭McConkey


    Have a code for Liffey Valley Argos that I am not using-Valid till 9 pm today. Picked one up in Limerick last night.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Access wrote: »
    Ah, no paddy... you told me you had two of the same camera... one for you and one for your missus...



    Just think its a bit mad to have bought two for the exact same camera in one house... could ye have not have just bought one and shared it to take photos on?

    Think of all the LED bulbs you could have bought with the spare €150 you could have saved! :pac:


    Yes I stated from the word go,that I bought her a camera for Christmas,and then I decided to go back and buy 1 for myself too.

    Why is that a bit mad??

    Cant 2 people not have a camera each??



    She takes pics when she is out and about and also with regards her work/profession and I take pics of when I am out and about and also when we are out an about as a family


    I dont think its 1 bit mad at all.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭stimpson


    Ryaner wrote: »
    You will notice the lack of VR at 55mm in darker situations more than you'll notice the difference in optical quality. Mainly due to the ISO having to compensate.
    Get something like http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/35mm-f18.htm and you'll have an amazing piece of kit. Perfect lense for most normal shots.

    The cash back comes pretty quickly too. Bought a new camera and lense back in Jan and had the prepaid card two weeks later.

    This.

    I bought the D3100 with the VR lens and never used it as I had the 35mm prime. Sold it for 100 bills on Adverts.

    Cracking camera for the price though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭MisterKipling


    i have a booking code for monaghan if its of any use!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭creativedrinker


    Thanks op! Just picked one up, waiting for it to charge up to give it a try out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    Thanks op! Just picked one up, waiting for it to charge up to give it a try out

    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=fro+d3100&nirf=for+d3100 :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭Lazybones


    Hi there,

    Great thread and thanks to the OP for posting.

    Now for the begging bit.......... if anyone has a reservation code for Galway whcih they will not be using I would be grateful if you could PM me.

    Many thanks in advance.

    Lazybones


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭boobar


    Notch000 wrote: »

    Nice one Notch000, I've reserved one for myself. Great price,thanks for sharing.


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