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North Korea v USA Mega Merge.

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    #242
    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,654 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    fullgas wrote: »
    Naughty Korea's strength is not with it's nuclear weapons but the massive amount of conventional artillery batteries pointed at Seoul.

    Spot on, the US can deal with any missiles sent toward its bases in Guam or okinawa, they can probably stop a large % of missiles hitting SK too, what they won't be able to stop (before massive loss of life) is the enormous artillery barrage that the NKs will launch, these are entrenched positions surrounded by a lot of AAA, it is not going to be easy to knock them out before they kill a lot of people


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    #243
    books4sale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭books4sale


    COYW wrote: »
    On a more serious note, I'd say South Korea are bricking themselves. .

    I spent a number of years out there and they are far from bricking it!

    Bring up the threat of a nuke from the North, normally you get a shrug of the shoulder, a joke and a laugh about a great ball of fire. Come what may!

    The South are a tough proud people, every South Korean male has at least 2 years hard service completed in the miltary. They couldn't give a sh*t about the yanks, they are ready, willing and able at any moments notice to head over the border to put an end to all this messing themselves.


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    #244
    Gatling
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    fullgas wrote: »
    Yes you'll love your posthumous medal.

    They don't do medals here fecking cut backs
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    #245
    DarkJager
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    Why not just drop 3 or 4 nukes on NK and be done with it? It's not like anybody will miss them.


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    #246
    COYW
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭COYW


    books4sale wrote: »
    I spent a number of years out there and they are far from bricking it!

    Bring up the threat of a nuke from the North, normally you get a shrug of the shoulder, a joke and a laugh about a great ball of fire. Come what may!

    The South are a tough proud people, every South Korean male has at least 2 years hard service completed in the miltary. They couldn't give a sh*t about the yanks, they are ready, willing and able at any moments notice to head over the border to put an end to all this messing themselves.

    Good to hear this.


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    #247
    Dwork
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    books4sale wrote: »
    I spent a number of years out there and they are far from bricking it!

    Bring up the threat of a nuke from the North, normally you get a shrug of the shoulder, a joke and a laugh about a great ball of fire. Come what may!

    The South are a tough proud people, every South Korean male has at least 2 years hard service completed in the miltary. They couldn't give a sh*t about the yanks, they are ready, willing and able at any moments notice to head over the border to put an end to all this messing themselves.
    They're taking their bleedin time. Define "messing" would you?


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    #248
    nelly17
    Registered Users Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭nelly17


    DarkJager wrote: »
    Why not just drop 3 or 4 nukes on NK and be done with it? It's not like anybody will miss them.

    Civillian Casualties who have spent their entire life living under Tyranny and out of fear of ending up in a Gulag for speaking out of turn


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    #249
    COYW
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭COYW


    DarkJager wrote: »
    Why not just drop 3 or 4 nukes on NK and be done with it? It's not like anybody will miss them.

    And what about the millions of NKs who are innocent in all this? Fatty deserves to get his derriere kicked but not those people.


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    #250
    fullgas
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    Gatling wrote: »
    They don't do medals here fecking cut backs

    Crazy ladies still leave love letters and flowers on Michael Collin's grave out in Glasnevin. Perhaps that would entice you?


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    #251
    Gmol
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    Reckon that all North Korean support would disappear. Too be honest north Korea should have been looked at years ago the regime is dangerously unstable and it was always a question of time. As always a lot of innocent will suffer. I wonder what info the usa has that has brought this to a head and have they made a deal with China.


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    #252
    pockets3d
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    DarkJager wrote: »
    Why not just drop 3 or 4 nukes on NK and be done with it? It's not like anybody will miss them.

    China and even S. Korea wouldn't be thrilled with the pollution and indiscriminate genocide of people of their ethical group which both sides would have long lost relatives living in NK .
    The US hardly needs another scandal and is not in near enough risk for preemptive annihilation .


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    #253
    TerrorFirmer
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    fullgas wrote: »
    Naughty Korea's strength is not with it's nuclear weapons but the massive amount of conventional artillery batteries pointed at Seoul.

    Their military is pretty antiquated and while I don't deny that if they decided to initiate hostilities with an artillery barrage that they'd kill a number of people initially, SK has an infinitely superior and more modernized military with a focus on counter barrage. In the event of actual non-nuclear war, South Korea on it's own would probably whip NK, let alone the inevitability of US assistance. NK outnumbers SK by quite a margin but only because it's equipment is hugely inferior.


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    #254
    Gatling
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    fullgas wrote: »
    Crazy ladies still leave love letters and flowers on Michael Collin's grave out in Glasnevin. Perhaps that would entice you?

    Hmmmm my missus is the jealous type could get messy
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    #255
    Chucken
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    DarkJager wrote: »
    Why not just drop 3 or 4 nukes on NK and be done with it? It's not like anybody will miss them.[/QUOTE]

    Seriously? Do you mean that?

    I'll bet in a different thread people would say the same about other places they didnt know...like Limerick?? Tar em all with the one brush eh?


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    #256
    Gatling
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    Chucken wrote: »
    DarkJager wrote: »
    Why not just drop 3 or 4 nukes on NK and be done with it? It's not like anybody will miss them.[/QUOTE]

    Seriously? Do you mean that?

    I'll bet in a different thread people would say the same about other places they didnt know...like Limerick?? Tar em all with the one brush eh?

    How bout Blanchardstown

    http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2056914011/1/#post83886390
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    #257
    nelly17
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    pockets3d wrote: »
    China and even S. Korea wouldn't be thrilled with the pollution and indiscriminate genocide of people of their ethical group which both sides would have long lost relatives living in NK .
    The US hardly needs another scandal and is not in near enough risk for preemptive annihilation .

    Nor would they be too thrilled by the wave of millions of refugees attempting to flee over the N.Korea Border


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    #258
    Solair
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    It's not exactly getting massive headlines. Sky aren't even mentioning it!

    China doesn't like unpredictable!


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    #259
    WakeUp
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    Lord Trollington wrote: »
    Who would fall in behind NK, that's the question.

    China. When it looked like the North would be overun during the Korean war the Chinese invaded and gave the UN/US troops a right hiding and forced them into a retreat the greatest retreat in US military history. This freaked Mcarthur out so much that he lobbied Truman and other people to let him use nukes. He wanted to bomb North Korea and the Chinese with 25 atom bombs. He was a big hero after world war 2 and had a lot of influence though Truman stood up to him refused his request to use nuclear weapons and sacked him. But it could have happened lots of people agreed with Mcarthur. Kim Jong Jrs Dad was in power at the time.

    China sees North Korea has a buffer zone between them and the south and a makeweight against US military dominance in the region they dont want the South with all those US soldiers right on their border. They also fear the rise of Japans military and see the North as a couter balance to that aswell. The Chinese dont trust US intentions in the region with the Asian BMDS in place and the growing US presence in the Asian pacific region. The US plan to have two aircraft carriers deployed there at all times the first time they have ever done such a thing.

    You can never predict what way a war will go or who will get dragged in but we live in a nuclear age now the rules are different and the stakes way higher. The Chinese have leverage over the Norths political decisions but not over their military. You only need to look at the number of times the North has defied China when asked not too with their missile tests and such they will play ball but when it comes to the army will do what they want. You can never say never but I would think for Chinas own reasons they would become involved on the side of the North.


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    #260
    irishgeo
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    Solair wrote: »
    It's not exactly getting massive headlines. Sky aren't even mentioning it!

    China doesn't like unpredictable!

    http://news.sky.com/story/1071264/north-korea-rockets-ready-to-hit-us-bases


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    #261
    Chucken
    Registered Users Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    Solair wrote: »
    It's not exactly getting massive headlines. Sky aren't even mentioning it!

    China doesn't like unpredictable!

    http://news.sky.com/story/1071264/north-korea-rockets-ready-to-hit-us-bases


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    #262
    WoollyRedHat
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    Stop me if you've heard this one before.


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    #263
    TheUsual
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    Captain Chaos wrote: »
    NK don't have the stones to make the first move. Doubt they want to either, it's a death sentence either way.

    Exactly.
    North Korea dead.
    South Korea dead.
    U.S.A. gets the blame for the killing loads of Koreans, North and South.


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    #264
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    helimachoptor wrote: »
    Spot on, the US can deal with any missiles sent toward its bases in Guam or okinawa, they can probably stop a large % of missiles hitting SK too, what they won't be able to stop (before massive loss of life) is the enormous artillery barrage that the NKs will launch, these are entrenched positions surrounded by a lot of AAA, it is not going to be easy to knock them out before they kill a lot of people

    What is AAA?


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    #265
    fullgas
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    Anti Aircraft Artillery


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    #266
    [Deleted User]
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    Thank you :)


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    #267
    TheUsual
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    irishgeo wrote: »
    http://news.sky.com/story/1071264/north-korea-rockets-ready-to-hit-us-bases

    That was March 20th.

    I reckon it would have landed by now.
    Even if it was sent by post.


    Why. Why. Why are idiots talking about a non-event here.


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    #268
    books4sale
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    Dwork wrote: »
    They're taking their bleedin time. Define "messing" would you?

    They are ready to go to war but why bother when they are economically sound, have a high standard of living, education, a low unemployment rate. It's not like there are gallons of oil in the mountains of the North.

    To them, the North have been huffing and puffing hot air for decades. The Southerners grow up listening to this rubbish. It's like that annoying lad who keeps talking sh*te in your ear...eventually you just tune out!


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    #269
    Chucken
    Registered Users Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    TheUsual wrote: »
    That was March 20th.

    I reckon it would have landed by now.
    Even if it was sent by post.


    Why. Why. Why are idiots talking about a non-event here.

    March 29th.


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    #270
    pockets3d
    Registered Users Posts: 283 ✭✭pockets3d


    TheUsual wrote: »
    That was March 20th.

    I reckon it would have landed by now.
    Even if it was sent by post.


    Why. Why. Why are idiots talking about a non-event here.


    A picture of a rocket was taken on 20th. Today they made the threat that they'd use the rockets in an attack


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    #271
    B.A._Baracus
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    There was a thread a few months ago about North Korea and alot of people were just saying it's only Sabre Rattling ... :rolleyes:

    Sabre Rattling eventually leads to a "put up or shut up" moment (or whatever expression you want to use) Now last month with North Korea it was nuclear missles, this month its this ... whats next month going to be about?

    This shit can escalate.


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