Canal+ Cyfrowy Poland is this same as Cyfra+

pigeon1916

Hi
Below is some info on that I got back from Satsklep which might help some.
I have not purchased a new card yet. But at least now I know that there is a 12 month option for 269euro plus postage.

(My email to Satsklep)
Hi Rafal
I had a Cyfra + Mutipakiet HD which has expired in the last week.

Can you tell me if there any cards available from Satsklep that have the same channels as the Cyfra + Mutipakiet HD card at a similar price.

(Reply from Satsklep)

Dear Mr John,
for today there are 2 options to watch all Canal+ channels:

1. http://www.satsklep.pl/en_US/p/nC-Package-Canal-Platinum/684

the price is 567,35 Euro for 18 months card.

2. http://www.satsklep.pl/en_US/p/nC-Package-Comfort-/688

this package and we can added the all 6 Canal+ channels and this card will be for 12 months and price will be 269 Euro.

I will be waiting for your decision.
--
Best Regards

Rafał Synowski
ELTECH Sp. z o.o.
ul. Żelazna 6
41-709 Ruda Śląska
Poland

Nowso

269 for 12 months with all canal + would be a lot better as long as its not the add on for the polish premier league that only clears for the polish matchs

you think they would have that option available on the site as an option so people could order it

snaps

Wouldn't be a bad option at all. Everyone in my house would be happy. Sport, kids and national tv.

Nowso

it would need to be confirmed that you get all canal+ channels 24 hours a day . and would u get nsport for the other matches on that

wonski

Nowso wrote: »

it would need to be confirmed that you get all canal+ channels 24 hours a day . and would u get nsport for the other matches on that

Why wouldn't you have them 24 hours/day???
Any subscription that has Canal+sport has nSport and Family/Family2 - most matches are rotated between those channels, except Bundesliga - Eurosport2,and some other, "less" popular on Orange Sport/Polsat sport.
To get Canal+Sport you have to buy most expensive subscription, where are all the channels i listed above. Hope i made it clear for you.

Nowso

wonski wrote: »

Why wouldn't you have them 24 hours/day???
Any subscription that has Canal+sport has nSport and Family/Family2 - most matches are rotated between those channels, except Bundesliga - Eurosport2,and some other, "less" popular on Orange Sport/Polsat sport.
To get Canal+Sport you have to buy most expensive subscription, where are all the channels i listed above. Hope i made it clear for you.

the possible problem that may occur with this

2. http://www.satsklep.pl/en_US/p/nC-Package-Comfort-/688

this package and we can added the all 6 Canal+ channels and this card will be for 12 months and price will be 269 Euro.


is there is a new add on for the polish league games only which will only let you see canal+ and nsport when there is a polish league game on, therefore you will not get english and spanish matches with that add on

wonski

Nowso wrote: »

the possible problem that may occur with this

2. http://www.satsklep.pl/en_US/p/nC-Package-Comfort-/688

this package and we can added the all 6 Canal+ channels and this card will be for 12 months and price will be 269 Euro.


is there is a new add on for the polish league games only which will only let you see canal+ and nsport when there is a polish league game on, therefore you will not get english and spanish matches with that add on

That's why if you want Premierleague you HAVE to take highest subscription - Platinum. Sadly - there are no shortcuts.
I am on prepay now - n na karte - and some regular channels + nSport/Family/Family2+Orange Sport and Polsat Sport News cost me 15E/month, but no PremierLeague available.
As the Spanish/French/Polish and Italian League are now rotated all the time, you never know what game will be on what channel, but the best games are guaranteed if you take platinum.
Hope it clears it now- Platinum is your only option.

Nowso

wonski wrote: »

That's why if you want Premierleague you HAVE to take highest subscription - Platinum. Sadly - there are no shortcuts.
I am on prepay now - n na karte - and some regular channels + nSport/Family/Family2+Orange Sport and Polsat Sport News cost me 15E/month, but no PremierLeague available.
As the Spanish/French/Polish and Italian League are now rotated all the time, you never know what game will be on what channel, but the best games are guaranteed if you take platinum.
Hope it clears it now- Platinum is your only option.

yes but nc+ have changed there offers 2 12 months . yet no 12 month platinum on satsklep yet

wonski

Nowso wrote: »

yes but nc+ have changed there offers 2 12 months . yet no 12 month platinum on satsklep yet

You do realize that what nc+ offers is generally for resident of the country they operate in, and have license to do so. Satsklep is offering you a service of providing nc+ viewing card for fixed price, but their offer may be slightly different from what you see on nc+ website... So either wait for new cards, that may be for 12 months, or buy 18 month Platinum now. Platinum cost~30E/month (according to nc+ tariff), this will cost at least 360E/year, or 540E/18 months. I say that little over 20 Euro extra for 18 months card isn't rip off at all, but if you want only 12 months you will have to ask them if, and when they will have them available.

snaps

wonski wrote: »

You do realize that what nc+ offers is generally for resident of the country they operate in, and have license to do so. Satsklep is offering you a service of providing nc+ viewing card for fixed price, but their offer may be slightly different from what you see on nc+ website... So either wait for new cards, that may be for 12 months, or buy 18 month Platinum now. Platinum cost~30E/month (according to nc+ tariff), this will cost at least 360E/year, or 540E/18 months. I say that little over 20 Euro extra for 18 months card isn't rip off at all, but if you want only 12 months you will have to ask them if, and when they will have them available.

Hang on, Ive got 540 lying around to pay as a one off. nc+ have pressed the self destruct button. Ive a Polish bank account, I could subscribe monthly, But Last year I was paying 160€, I dont fancy paying more money when we only watch the sport and the mrs watches the national channels.

wonski

snaps wrote: »

Hang on, Ive got 540 lying around to pay as a one off. nc+ have pressed the self destruct button. Ive a Polish bank account, I could subscribe monthly, But Last year I was paying 160€, I dont fancy paying more money when we only watch the sport and the mrs watches the national channels.

You paid 160Euro/year with Canal+Sport? Was it some kind of special offer?
As for the self destruct button - i don't think so. Their coverage rights are excellent at the moment, and most people i spoke to are happy with the merge, as they get more sport for similiar or the same money.
Now, if you paid 160/year for same, i can understand you are not happy, but every single broadcaster does the same these days. To get SkySports you can't just choose lowest package and add sports to that. Same with nc+ at this moment.

snaps

wonski wrote: »

You paid 160Euro/year with Canal+Sport? Was it some kind of special offer?.

like most people that brought, there was a package called multipaket that was there abouts 160€ for 13 months.

People are happy with nc+? Where did you get this from? Do you use Facebook? Have you seen the ante nc+ page?

Nowso

Nc+ fined over 2.5million euro by the polish Office of Competition and Consumer Protection

recyclebin

What will this mean for us? Will it force them to do anything about the massive price hikes?

Nowso

there considering there reaction and if they will appeal

slicedpanman

just checked LJs site... no premiership games this weekend on Cyfra? Is that correct?

recyclebin

I doubt it. LJs isn't always updated until days before games take place.

wonski

Tottenham-Southampton and QPR-Arsenal on Saturday, Liverpool-Everton and United-Chelsea on Sunday (all matches on Canal+Sport)

snaps

My wife has fired off a few emails to companies asking about a cheaper Canal+Sport option than getting Platinum. So lets see what response we get?

ChorleyMatt

IMO this is the best TV guide for Polish channels:

http://www.teleman.pl/program-tv/stacje/CanalPlus-Sport

Link takes you to the C+Sport channel but they're all listed down the right of the page, hope it helps.

Cheers,
Matt.

Nowso

Sunderland - Stoke City on monday

Wigan Athletic - Manchester City on tuesday

Chelsea - Tottenham Hotspur on wednesday all on Canal + nsport

wonski

Nowso wrote: »

Sunderland - Stoke City on monday

Wigan Athletic - Swansea on tuesday

Chelsea - Tottenham Hotspur on wednesday all on Canal+Sport

Fixed for you...

Nowso

wonski wrote: »

Fixed for you...

thanks i should have checked they do that a lot especially with Man City

wonski

For those who want to know what is on and when here is a link to polish website:
http://futbolwtv.pl/

There are tabs from Monday to Sunday on top- it is up-to-date all the time, very reliable source - not just for premierleague.

snaps

Confirmation from satsklep about adding the 6 channels to nc+ comfort package for 269€ (12months).

The 6 canal+ channels will work all the time and include all sports, including EPL, which will mainly be shown on canal+sport.

So for 269€ you get an awful lot of bang for your bucks. For me & my family especially its a great deal, including 17 HD channels. (we speak both Polish and English).

From Satsklep:

kanały Canal+ są kanałami nadającymi całą dobę chyba, że występuje jakaś przerwa techniczna, a angielska liga nadawana jest na kanale Canal+ Sport.
W razie pytań pozostaję do dyspozycji.

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niestety w nowej ofercie nC+ nie ma juz takiego pakietu jak Multipakiet. Mógłbym jedynie zaproponowac kartę na pakiet Comfort+:

http://www.satsklep.pl/pl/p/nC-Pakiet-Comfort-/688

z dodatkowymi kanałami Canal+ na 12 miesięcy za kwotę 269 Euro.
W razie pytań pozostaje do dyspozycji.

Kev.

snaps wrote: »

Confirmation from satsklep about adding the 6 channels to nc+ comfort package for 269€ (12months).

The 6 canal+ channels will work all the time and include all sports, including EPL, which will mainly be shown on canal+sport.

So for 269€ you get an awful lot of bang for your bucks. For me & my family especially its a great deal, including 17 HD channels. (we speak both Polish and English).

From Satsklep:

kanały Canal+ są kanałami nadającymi całą dobę chyba, że występuje jakaś przerwa techniczna, a angielska liga nadawana jest na kanale Canal+ Sport.
W razie pytań pozostaję do dyspozycji.

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niestety w nowej ofercie nC+ nie ma juz takiego pakietu jak Multipakiet. Mógłbym jedynie zaproponowac kartę na pakiet Comfort+:

http://www.satsklep.pl/pl/p/nC-Pakiet-Comfort-/688

z dodatkowymi kanałami Canal+ na 12 miesięcy za kwotę 269 Euro.
W razie pytań pozostaje do dyspozycji.

Sorry to be an absolute muppet here but,I have a Vu+ solo,all I need to buy is a year sub?

I have my Vu + hooked up to my sky sattelite

snaps

Kev. wrote: »

Sorry to be an absolute muppet here but,I have a Vu+ solo,all I need to buy is a year sub?

I have my Vu + hooked up to my sky sattelite

no, it also needs a feed from the hotbird satellite at a different position of 13 degrees east. Sky satellite as you call it is at 28 degrees east.

Kev.

Thanks Snaps,So all I need to do is get a Satelite installer out to install a satellite and position it to 28 degrees east,then buy a sub and I'm away and running..

Nowso

snaps wrote: »

Confirmation from satsklep about adding the 6 channels to nc+ comfort package for 269€ (12months).

The 6 canal+ channels will work all the time and include all sports, including EPL, which will mainly be shown on canal+sport.

So for 269€ you get an awful lot of bang for your bucks. For me & my family especially its a great deal, including 17 HD channels. (we speak both Polish and English).

From Satsklep:

kanały Canal+ są kanałami nadającymi całą dobę chyba, że występuje jakaś przerwa techniczna, a angielska liga nadawana jest na kanale Canal+ Sport.
W razie pytań pozostaję do dyspozycji.

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niestety w nowej ofercie nC+ nie ma juz takiego pakietu jak Multipakiet. Mógłbym jedynie zaproponowac kartę na pakiet Comfort+:

http://www.satsklep.pl/pl/p/nC-Pakiet-Comfort-/688

z dodatkowymi kanałami Canal+ na 12 miesięcy za kwotę 269 Euro.
W razie pytań pozostaje do dyspozycji.

they should have it on the site for people to order

azzeretti

Nowso wrote: »

they should have it on the site for people to order

I don't see the Canal+ Sport channels on that link? Also, do you know if the Kids and Doc channels have English audio as an option?

snaps

azzeretti wrote: »

I don't see the Canal+ Sport channels on that link? Also, do you know if the Kids and Doc channels have English audio as an option?

the kids do, discovery doesn't, national geo does.

Morris Code

Kev. wrote: »

Thanks Snaps,So all I need to do is get a Satelite installer out to install a satellite and position it to 28 degrees east,then buy a sub and I'm away and running..

Muppet 2 here-would love to know the answer,its all very confusing for the novice.I have read thru many threads on the subject and got the impression that u can have a second LNB installed and skewed towards that satellite.Anyone confirm if this is correct-Or-do u need a motorised dish.

Would really appreciate an answer from anyone in the know.Thanks in advance.

snaps

Morris Code wrote: »

Muppet 2 here-would love to know the answer,its all very confusing for the novice.I have read thru many threads on the subject and got the impression that u can have a second LNB installed and skewed towards that satellite.Anyone confirm if this is correct-Or-do u need a motorised dish.

Would really appreciate an answer from anyone in the know.Thanks in advance.

A 2nd dish or a 2nd LNB yes. A 2nd LNB though only on a suitable sized dish, a sky dish isn't really up to the job. A 80cm dish really a minimum. Also you would need a suitable receiver to receive your fta channels and then also to accept the nc+ smart card. Most combos with a smart card reader should do the job, Like the Ariva 150 etc. You will also need a simple Diseqc switch fitted behind the dish which will switch between the satellite positions from a simple command sent from the receiver. Ive got 8 LNB's connected to my receivers!

snaps

azzeretti wrote: »

I don't see the Canal+ Sport channels on that link? Also, do you know if the Kids and Doc channels have English audio as an option?

A complete list is here: Strangely it says Discovery is in English, but I may be getting confused with Discovery HD which isn't. Its also showing Disney channel's etc only in Polish, But Im nearly 100% sure there is a 2nd language option in it. I'll check.

http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/ncplus.html

Discoverys (SD) all seem to have an English audio track. So that list seems about right.

Tonio

snaps wrote: »

A complete list is here: Strangely it says Discovery is in English, but I may be getting confused with Discovery HD which isn't. Its also showing Disney channel's etc only in Polish, But Im nearly 100% sure there is a 2nd language option in it. I'll check.

http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/ncplus.html

Discoverys (SD) all seem to have an English audio track. So that list seems about right.

The Discovery SD channels are all in English. Disney is in English but Disney XD is only in polish. Nat Geo HD channels are in English. Animal Planet HD is Polish only but the SD version is in English.

Full list here:

http://en.kingofsat.net/pack-ncplus.php

Morris Code

snaps wrote: »

A 2nd dish or a 2nd LNB yes. A 2nd LNB though only on a suitable sized dish, a sky dish isn't really up to the job. A 80cm dish really a minimum. Also you would need a suitable receiver to receive your fta channels and then also to accept the nc+ smart card. Most combos with a smart card reader should do the job, Like the Ariva 150 etc. You will also need a simple Diseqc switch fitted behind the dish which will switch between the satellite positions from a simple command sent from the receiver. Ive got 8 LNB's connected to my receivers!

Okay-I was kind of on the right track.I have 2 Ariva 120 boxes -but just a 60cm dish.Now that I know what is required I can make enquiries.Anyway-great -thanks for info

iba

Morris Code wrote: »

Okay-I was kind of on the right track.I have 2 Ariva 120 boxes -but just a 60cm dish.Now that I know what is required I can make enquiries.Anyway-great -thanks for info

When I had the card last year, I had to get a CAM for the card to work in the 120 - not sure if the new card also needs a CAM.

Got the CAM from Satskelp when I bought the card

iba

Morris Code wrote: »

Okay-I was kind of on the right track.I have 2 Ariva 120 boxes -but just a 60cm dish.Now that I know what is required I can make enquiries.Anyway-great -thanks for info

Someone mentioned above that he thinks you need an 80cm dish to pick up hotbird and astra 28. If that is so, this is what you need to get (well it will at least set you on the right track). Ive put a twin LNB there coz u said u have 2 boxes. Also get 2 diseqc switches:

http://sat-planet.ie/freeview_tv/free_to_air_ireland/diseqc_switch

http://sat-planet.ie/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=143

http://sat-planet.ie/freeview_tv/satellite_lnb_holder/lnb_holder_triax

http://sat-planet.ie/freeview_tv/satellite_lnb/twin_lnb

Hope this helps you

iba

Kev. wrote: »

Thanks Snaps,So all I need to do is get a Satelite installer out to install a satellite and position it to 28 degrees east,then buy a sub and I'm away and running..

No, a sat installer cannot install a satellite. Read my post above, it should help you.

snaps

If you want both nc+ (polish) and the UK free channels you need either 2 dishes or 1 dish with 2 lnbs pointed at positions 13 & 28east.

iba

snaps wrote: »

If you want both nc+ (polish) and the UK free channels you need either 2 dishes or 1 dish with 2 lnbs pointed at positions 13 & 28east.

or a motorised one

snaps

iba wrote: »

When I had the card last year, I had to get a CAM for the card to work in the 120 - not sure if the new card also needs a CAM.

Got the CAM from Satskelp when I bought the card

the 120 with the correct software should do the trick. As far as I know the card readers are conax to start off with. They can be turned into multi cams with a software upgrade, but beware the 120s are prone to crashing with their eeproms failing. The 150s are near enough bullet proof. Satsklep sell these receivers to use with nc+ (seca) cards. The old n cards are conax.

iba

snaps wrote: »

the 120 with the correct software should do the trick. As far as I know the card readers are conax to start off with. They can be turned into multi cams with a software upgrade, but beware the 120s are prone to crashing with their eeproms failing. The 150s are near enough bullet proof. Satsklep sell these receivers to use with nc+ (seca) cards. The old n cards are conax.

Yeah, STB told me about the emulater, but I didnt want to go into that.

But the card will not fit into the 120 without a CAM - so how do you get around that?

The 250 has a built in CAM - will take the card direct

Dont know about the 150

Nowso

iba wrote: »

Yeah, STB told me about the emulater, but I didnt want to go into that.

But the card will not fit into the 120 without a CAM - so how do you get around that?

The 250 has a built in CAM - will take the card direct

Dont know about the 150

im using my cyfra card in a 120 it goes in the top card slot upside down, and it works fine .

iba

Nowso wrote: »

im using my cyfra card in a 120 it goes in the top card slot upside down, and it works fine .

Nowso and Snaps,

Im sorry, Im wrong, you are right. I bought the CAM (which has Matrix written on it) to work in a Humax not the Ariva.

My apologises for getting it muddled and confusing people.

Regards

Iba

Morris Code

iba wrote: »

Someone mentioned above that he thinks you need an 80cm dish to pick up hotbird and astra 28. If that is so, this is what you need to get (well it will at least set you on the right track). Ive put a twin LNB there coz u said u have 2 boxes. Also get 2 diseqc switches:

http://sat-planet.ie/freeview_tv/free_to_air_ireland/diseqc_switch

http://sat-planet.ie/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=143

http://sat-planet.ie/freeview_tv/satellite_lnb_holder/lnb_holder_triax

http://sat-planet.ie/freeview_tv/satellite_lnb/twin_lnb

Hope this helps you

Okay yes indeed thats all very useful-I am a little wiser now.Thanks a lot for that

iba

Morris Code wrote: »

Okay yes indeed thats all very useful-I am a little wiser now.Thanks a lot for that

No problem

I put in a 4 holder bracket coz its only €1 more expensive than the 2 holder one which you need - but for th extra euro, you can expand in the future

snaps

Nowso wrote: »

they should have it on the site for people to order

just wondering if they've been restricted from not advertising it, stop cheap pre paid cards going to UK? Like Tring, digital alb were restricted?

Nowso

snaps wrote: »

just wondering if they've been restricted from not advertising it, stop cheap pre paid cards going to UK? Like Tring, digital alb were restricted?

even for any of us who are on here its will need emails n phone calls if we were to buy it. mine lasts untill september so im not in a rush but its something they need to do

white_westie

Wondering could someone help with some questions on these cards

http://www.satsklep.pl/en_US/p/CAM-Modul-NNK-HD-card-with-subscribtion-for-3-months/152

http://www.satsklep.pl/en_US/p/nC-Package-Comfort-/688

1) What country is the Eurosport channels on these cards
Eurosport France, Eurosport NE Europe, Eurosport PL
Also, is the english audio track the same as that on British Eurosport?

2) The TNT card is a conax card and comes with a conax cam - is the cam required to use the card, or can the card be read natively in smartcard slot, or would you have to use something like osc@m?

3) The nC+ card does not come with a cam - what would you need to read it? Can the card be read natively in smartcard slot, or would you have to use something like osc@m?

I have an XTrend ET9000 which has 2 smardcard readers as well as 2 CI slots.

No interest in football, interest is mainly in eurosport

WW