What is it with Mickey Harte?

Menas

First we had his turning up and supporting the Quinn family at a rally last year.

And now we see he has provided a character reference for a man who has pleaded guilty to sexual assault, stealing his dads van, driving while disqualified and without insurance. The defendant Ronan McCluster had met the victim in a bar and took her back to his van where he sexually assaulted her. He then kicked her out of the van half naked and drove off.
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/tyrone-boss-harte-gives-reference-for-sex-attacker-29078997.html

Why on earth does Mickey Harte support these characters?

Basq

♩♪♫♬ "We've got the love tonight.." ♩♪♫♬

Mince Pie

Ah he's all harte

tin79

Why on earth does Mickey Harte support these characters?

The families involved have known each other for generations, they go to the same church, to the same parish functions, they cheer on the same teams, they all know each other

The second quote tells you why.

Because in crazy GAA, Catholic, banjo country this makes it all OK.

Death and Taxes

Trigger Happy wrote: »

First we had his turning up and supporting the Quinn family at a rally last year.

And now we see he has provided a character reference for a man who has pleaded guilty to sexual assault, stealing his dads van, driving while disqualified and without insurance. The defendant Ronan McCluster had met the victim in a bar and took her back to his van where he sexually assaulted her. He then kicked her out of the van half naked and drove off.
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/tyrone-boss-harte-gives-reference-for-sex-attacker-29078997.html

Why on earth does Mickey Harte support these characters?

Because he is an egotistical twat!
Not to forget he was down here a few weeks ago telling us what laws we should have on abortion.
Didn't he also refuse to take part in RTE after match interviews because he wasn't allowed to decide which commentator would be handling a match!
Major league muppet!

Kylo Ren

What is with Cock Lung?

krudler

Youth Defence supporter too, knob.

My name is URL

He also acted as chaperone for a guy accused of murdering his father!

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/teen-charged-with-murdering-father-texted-friend-for-gun-28955797.html

tin79

Imagine your mickey had its own little heart. That would be awesome.

You could fake a mickey heart attack and get some sexy bird to do CPR on it. Thats the dream

RikkFlair

Basq wrote: »

♩♪♫♬ "We've got the love tonight.." ♩♪♫♬

The world!

How could you forget the lyrics to that unforgettable piece of music history! :eek:

recyclebin

Basq wrote: »

♩♪♫♬ "We've got the world tonight.." ♩♪♫♬

fixed that for ya

IamtheWalrus

He's a religious and deluded nut who has an elevated opinion of himself given to him, in his opinion, by God himself.

dark crystal

What an idiot. His own daughter not long buried and he's providing references defending the criminal actions of a scumbag towards someone else's daughter.

Unbelievable. He should be ashamed of himself.

Happyman42

dark crystal wrote: »

What an idiot. His own daughter not long buried and he's providing references defending the criminal actions of a scumbag towards someone else's daughter.

Unbelievable. He should be ashamed of himself.

Do you know what he said in the 'reference'?

Yakult

Hope the prick goes to jail for a while. Lets see how his "highly regarded" family name serves him behind bars.

sfwcork

Mickey Harte is an absolute Fool. He thinks he has the right to say who deserves what instead of our own Judical system

He can fookoff and go away and kiss the queens arse

Happyman42

sfwcork wrote: »

Mickey Harte is an absolute Fool. He thinks he has the right to say who deserves what instead of our own Judical system

He can fookoff and go away and kiss the queens arse

The giving of references is a normal part of the Judicial system both here and in N.I.
The giving of a reference is no indication that leinency was sought or the 'crime' was excused in any way. Unless you know the contents of this particular reference how can you infer anything?
Oh wait...you read the Sindo.

dark crystal

Happyman42 wrote: »

Do you know what he said in the 'reference'?

No, I'm not privy to the contents.

I would assume if the defence are using it, it paints the defendant in a good light, otherwise he would have given it to the prosecution instead.

What is your point?

seamus

As said, it's the ultra-catholic GAA banjo effect. Anyone who goes to church and is involved with the GAA is regarded as being of "good character" and the community will stand by them regardless.

Just because his daughter died tragically and he has a decorated GAA career, doesn't mean he's immune to being a moron.

extra gravy

Mickey Harte seems to be becoming the Bono of the GAA world. An egotistical mouthpiece who thinks people actually want to listen to his opinions.

sfwcork

Somehow when somebody gives references at a drop of a hat their credibility is flawed

The reason the reference is given is to alter the Judge's Opinion of the crime and the person who commited the crime!

Or did he just throw out a reference for the skit and he doesnt want to alter what the sentence could be?

Happyman42

dark crystal wrote: »

defending the criminal actions

How do you know he did the above?

M cebee

people getting carried away about a respected guy giving a character reference

mickey harte seems to be a dignified religious man and great football manager

tbh

Happyman42 wrote: »

How do you know he did the above?

ITT: Lots of hilariously angry people who demonstrably don't understand what it is he did but wont let that stop them shouting very loudly about it on the internet.

Seriously lads. Arm yizzerselves with the actual facts before you get the torches lit. You're embarrasing yourselves.

Rasheed

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Because he is an egotistical twat!
Not to forget he was down here a few weeks ago telling us what laws we should have on abortion.
Didn't he also refuse to take part in RTE after match interviews because he wasn't allowed to decide which commentator would be handling a match!
Major league muppet!

The Brian Carty thing went deeper than just Mickey deciding would was commentating.

I mightn't agree with everything he says, but he's still one of the nicest, most humble men I've ever met.

Ash.J.Williams

My name is URL wrote: »

He also acted as chaperone for a guy accused of murdering his father!

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/teen-charged-with-murdering-father-texted-friend-for-gun-28955797.html

that's ok though

Ash.J.Williams

tbh wrote: »

ITT: Lots of hilariously angry people who demonstrably don't understand what it is he did but wont let that stop them shouting very loudly about it on the internet.

Seriously lads. Arm yizzerselves with the actual facts before you get the torches lit. You're embarrasing yourselves.

I guess it came from the indo. Can't blame people for reacting to what they read, but i'm guessing there might be more to it than the indo has reported.
The article was full of "good gaa family" "attend same church" type quotes which is sure to rile people.

Death and Taxes

Rasheed wrote: »

You were on about 'real GAA men' before. You were full of it then and you're full if it now.

And how dare you make hints about his daughters murder investigation.

Why?

tbh

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Can't blame people for reacting to what they read

ah ye can. If someone doesn't have the intelligence to figure out that MH was simply telling the court what he knew of the young man, and not trying to claim that he didn't commit the crime or that he should be excused, then they are too stupid to be allowed to use the internet.

Posts deleted.

LivelineDipso banned for trolling.

dark crystal

Happyman42 wrote: »

How do you know he did the above?

Do you mean did he write "This man was perfectly within his rights to do what he did to that woman. I fully back the decisions he made that night"? I doubt it.

However, he felt the need to write a character reference for a man who admits sexually assaulting a woman and leaving her half naked on the side of a road. Now, what person in their right mind does that? Especially a man whose own daughter was seriously assaulted (and murdered) not long ago?

This character reference was written with the intention of either getting a lesser sentence or for receiving bail. Either way, it's a slap in the face for that victim.

My name is URL

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

that's ok though

So is giving a character reference for someone in court, and attending protests etc. I don't have an issue with anything he does personally. Just find it amusing that his name pops up so often in relation to these things.

kraggy

seamus wrote: »

As said, it's the ultra-catholic GAA banjo effect. Anyone who goes to church and is involved with the GAA is regarded as being of "good character" and the community will stand by them regardless.

Just because his daughter died tragically and he has a decorated GAA career, doesn't mean he's immune to being a moron.

Talk about tarring a whole organisation with the same brush.

I don't know anyone else in the GAA who would support the offender in question.

Just because Mickey Harte did doesn't mean the GAA as a whole are behind him. I imagine it's quite the oppostie i.e. anyone with a brain cell at all would wish that he went to jail for his actions.

Death and Taxes

Rasheed wrote: »

The Brian Carty thing went deeper than just Mickey deciding would was commentating.

I mightn't agree with everything he says, but he's still one of the nicest, most humble men I've ever met.[/QUOTE]

Take it you are referring to the singer from donegal, the rest of us were taliking about the egotistical pratt that manages Tyrone GAA when he is not coaching Youth Defence!

mickydoomsux

GAA-head 'pillar of the community' schmoozer who will one day successfully run for political office because people are idiots.

Happyman42

dark crystal wrote: »

Do you mean did he write "This man was perfectly within his rights to do what he did to that woman. I fully back the decisions he made that night"? I doubt it.

However, he felt the need to write a character reference for a man who admits sexually assaulting a woman and leaving her half naked on the side of a road. Now, what person in their right mind does that? Especially a man whose own daughter was seriously assaulted (and murdered) not long ago?

This character reference was written with the intention of either getting a lesser sentence or for receiving bail. Either way, it's a slap in the face for that victim.

You have no idea what he wrote, yet you leap, like all internet ranters and warriors, to the conclusion that he 'defended' the actions of this man.
You leap to the conclusion that he has nothing in his heart but hate and revenge for the killers of his daughter.
Maybe he is a very christian man as a result of his 'real' experiences and maybe he thinks he can help this man in his redemptive process? Maybe he feels that this man's family supported him at his time of crisis.
I don't know what his motives are, but I have enough charity in my heart to wait until I know the contents of the 'reference' before I aid and abett the Sindo in one of it's sly assassinations.

dark crystal

Happyman42 wrote: »

You have no idea what he wrote, yet you leap, like all internet ranters and warriors, to the conclusion that he 'defended' the actions of this man.
You leap to the conclusion that he has nothing in his heart but hate and revenge for the killers of his daughter.
Maybe he is a very christian man as a result of his 'real' experiences and maybe he thinks he can help this man in his redemptive process? Maybe he feels that this man's family supported him at his time of crisis.
I don't know what his motives are, but I have enough charity in my heart to wait until I know the contents of the 'reference' before I aid and abett the Sindo in one of it's sly assassinations.

Were did I say that?

If he is such a good christian man, I would hope as well as providing character references for the self-confessed assailant, he has provided support for the victim of his crime in her time of crisis too.

golfball37

Mickey Harte is everything modern Ireland hates. Irish republican, god fearing, humble, a man who shuns the limelight and the money he could make from it. A more honest and decent man you could not meet.

I shouldn't be surprised Independent newspapers and the usual "useful fools" you'll find in Ireland have something against him.

Rasheed

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Rasheed wrote: »

The Brian Carty thing went deeper than just Mickey deciding would was commentating.

I mightn't agree with everything he says, but he's still one of the nicest, most humble men I've ever met.

Take it you are referring to the singer from donegal, the rest of us were taliking about the egotistical pratt that manages Tyrone GAA when he is not coaching Youth Defence!

No, I'm taking about the same Mickey Harte as everyone else. I've met him a few times and as I've said, I mightn't agree with everything he says or stands for, but he was a great help to me and I found him to be a lovely man.

seamus

kraggy wrote: »

Talk about tarring a whole organisation with the same brush.

Talk about a knee-jerk reaction.

I never said that the organisation stood behind it at all.

It's a phenomenon in rural communities that revolve around GAA that if you go to mass and help out with the club, you're a saint who can do no wrong.

M cebee

golfball37 wrote: »

Mickey Harte is everything modern Ireland hates. Irish republican, god fearing, humble, a man who shuns the limelight and the money he could make from it. A more honest and decent man you could not meet.

I shouldn't be surprised Independent newspapers and the usual "useful fools" you'll find in Ireland have something against him.

ya
where are people getting all these ideas about mickey harte

he showed great dignity and character after his daughters murder

is he arrogant or motivated by money and political ambition-i doubt it

sfwcork

Happyman why did he write the reference note for these case and others? Why in your opinion

Basq

RikkFlair wrote: »

The world!

How could you forget the lyrics to that unforgettable piece of music history! :eek:

recyclebin wrote: »

fixed that for ya

It was a test...

.. ye failed!

Rasheed

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Why?

Wiley, ffs, the poster hinted that because the woman's husband and father are 'Real GAA men', the case needs to be looked at again. As if they were somehow involved.

Happyman42

dark crystal wrote: »

Were did I say that?

If he is such a good christian man, I would hope as well as providing character references for the self-confessed assailant, he has provided support for the victim of his crime in her time of crisis too.

You inferred it by dictating how he should feel about the man at the centre of this.

How do you know what approaches he has made to the victim and her family? Are you waiting for the Sindo to tell you that as well?

kraggy

seamus wrote: »

Talk about a knee-jerk reaction.

I never said that the organisation stood behind it at all.

It's a phenomenon in rural communities that revolve around GAA that if you go to mass and help out with the club, you're a saint who can do no wrong.

You said that "the community will stand by them regardless".

That is simply not true. The GAA get around and support each other when someones been in an accident or someone's died etc. I can't think of a single instance when the GAA stood by a criminal whether as an organisation en masse, or a smaller section of it in a particular county.

old hippy

golfball37 wrote: »

Mickey Harte is everything modern Ireland hates. Irish republican, god fearing, humble, a man who shuns the limelight and the money he could make from it. A more honest and decent man you could not meet.

I shouldn't be surprised Independent newspapers and the usual "useful fools" you'll find in Ireland have something against him.

Phew, for a moment I was almost feeling homesick

seamus

kraggy wrote: »

You said that "the community will stand by them regardless".

What gave you the impression that I was talking about the GAA organisation? Clearly I was referring to the local community.

sfwcork

golfball37 wrote: »

Mickey Harte is everything modern Ireland hates. Irish republican, god fearing, humble, a man who shuns the limelight and the money he could make from it. A more honest and decent man you could not meet.

I shouldn't be surprised Independent newspapers and the usual "useful fools" you'll find in Ireland have something against him.

When he came down south here to do a gaa talk he had no bother asking for money

kraggy

seamus wrote: »

What gave you the impression that I was talking about the GAA organisation? Clearly I was referring to the local community.

You mentioned the GAA in your first 2 sentences. Are you seriously going to try and cover your arse now and say that you were talking about the community in general and not the GAA?

I especially find it impossible to believe that considering your GAA/banjo insulting reference.

Rasheed

seamus wrote: »

Talk about a knee-jerk reaction.

I never said that the organisation stood behind it at all.

It's a phenomenon in rural communities that revolve around GAA that if you go to mass and help out with the club, you're a saint who can do no wrong.

Seamus that's bollox to be honest. I've never seen/ heard anyone in my community or communities near us that some involved the the aforementioned things, immune to being punished for wrong doing.

Yeah, you might be supported through shiite but nobody is going to shield you if you did wrong.