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RaboDirectPRO12 Race to Playoffs 2012/13

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    Munster
    Ulster still have five VERY winnable games to go against bottom six teams.


    Treviso (H),
    Edinburgh (A),
    Leinster (A),
    Dragons (H),
    Connacht (A),
    Cardiff (H)

    The three home games plus embra away look like gimmes .
    Connacht away is 50/50.


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ospreys
    A lot will depend on Ulster's progress in Europe, if they have a full side out for most of those fixtures they'll be fine.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Ospreys
    Edinburgh haven't won a game since Sat 1 Dec so tonight was 6 losses in a row in the Rabo and 10 losses in a row incl the HEC :eek:

    Next up is an away game to Lanelli and then a game at home to Ulster so it looks like they'll extend that streak to 12 losses in a row!


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ospreys
    CatFromHue wrote: »
    Edinburgh haven't won a game since Sat 1 Dec so tonight was 6 losses in a row in the Rabo and 10 losses in a row incl the HEC :eek:

    Next up is an away game to Lanelli and then a game at home to Ulster so it looks like they'll extend that streak to 12 losses in a row!

    How many did Connacht lose on the bounce last season?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    How many did Connacht lose on the bounce last season?

    13 I think


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    Munster
    Despite Ulsters loss, still pretty confident they'll top the table, as mentioned, their run in isn't bad, realistically, should expect to win 5 from their remaining 6 and a couple of BPs if needed.

    Other than that, it's getting very crowded for the rest of the spots, big pressure on Munster to win on Sunday and stay in touch. There's no good outcome for them really from Leinster v Scarlets, maybe a Leinster win to just make the play-offs and keep Scarlets in sight. Big incentive for Leinster now, a win tomorrow will put us in good shape coming in to the home straight for a play-off place first and foremost, but a home semi within our own hands.

    Nervous about the game tomorrow as it is, but more so now, really hope the lads can do it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,911 ✭✭✭jacothelad


    A lot will depend on Ulster's progress in Europe, if they have a full side out for most of those fixtures they'll be fine.

    The trouble is we now know we won't have Ferris. Payne's injury looks a lot more problematic than was thought. Nick Williams still has his knee in a medical brace, Henry is out for at least 4 weeks. Wilson is out for 4 weeks, Muller is out with a groin injury. Wallace went off injured and it looked like a knee or ankle injury. He should have gone off when it happened and we wouldn't have gifted them a try because he couldn't stand on one leg. F*ckin stupid management. He should never have been at 10 to begin with. I have to say I'm pretty dismayed at the thought processes there. ROGesque stuff.

    McAllister
    Macklin
    Muller,
    Ferris,
    Henry,

    Doyle,
    Williams,
    Wilson

    O'Connor
    Bowe
    Payne,
    D'Arcy,

    Nelson

    We can get by without McAllister, Macklin, Doyle, NOC, and Nelson. They would all be back ups anyway. Muller, Williams, Bowe and Payne are pretty central to what the team have done so far that is positive.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    Munster
    Aye injuries are probably going to do a job on Ulsters season.
    I don't think it's possible to do well in April /may without a reasonably full deck.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Munster
    jacothelad wrote: »
    The trouble is we now know we won't have Ferris. Payne's injury looks a lot more problematic than was thought. Nick Williams still has his knee in a medical brace, Henry is out for at least 4 weeks. Wilson is out for 4 weeks, Muller is out with a groin injury. Wallace went off injured and it looked like a knee or ankle injury. He should have gone off when it happened and we wouldn't have gifted them a try because he couldn't stand on one leg. F*ckin stupid management. He should never have been at 10 to begin with. I have to say I'm pretty dismayed at the thought processes there. ROGesque stuff.

    McAllister
    Macklin
    Muller,
    Ferris,
    Henry,

    Doyle,
    Williams,
    Wilson

    O'Connor
    Bowe
    Payne,
    D'Arcy,

    Nelson

    We can get by without McAllister, Macklin, Doyle, NOC, and Nelson. They would all be back ups anyway. Muller, Williams, Bowe and Payne are pretty central to what the team have done so far that is positive.
    Ferris, Henry, Doyle, Williams, Wilson. Thats 5 backrows.

    With all of those missing what would Ulsters best backrow be? 6 Henderson 7 McComish 8 Diack. The drop off between 6 Ferris 7 Henry 8 Williams is massive.

    Ulster could be limping through the rest of the season and will be really streched if they get through in the HEC.


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ospreys
    The injuries tend to go in cycles around the provinces, IIRC Leinster had many players missing at the start of this season while Munster were decimated towards the end of last season. Connacht have had it pretty bad at times too.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    Munster
    Go away Ospreys.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    Munster
    Bit of a top three, next three look to it now.

    Will be very surprised if Leinster don't get the home semi now.

    Munster need to win tomorrow , which is by no means a certainty to stay in the hunt


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    Munster
    Great win for Leinster last night, Madigan really changed the game when he came on.

    Munster sunk to a pretty dire defeat, especially considering the amount of players Treviso have in the Italian squad and it was a reasonably strong Munster team.

    Glasgow beating Ulster was good from a Leinster point of view, Ospreys keep the pressure up too.

    Looks like the top 3 have pulled enough away that it'll be a real scrap between Ospreys, Scarlets and Munster for that final spot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    [Jackass] wrote: »
    Spoilers dude, I think a few lads are waiting on the delayed coverage of the Munster match

    ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ospreys
    TABLE AFTER ROUND 16
    Ulster 59
    Glasgow 56
    Leinster 54
    Ospreys 47
    Scarlets 46
    Munster 41
    Cardiff 33
    Treviso 32
    Connacht 28
    Edinburgh 23
    Dragons 22
    Zebre 7

    http://www.rabodirectpro12.com/matchcentre/table.php


    REMAINING FIXTURES

    ULSTER:
    Treviso (H), Edinburgh (A), Leinster (A), Dragons (H), Connacht (A), Cardiff (H)

    GLASGOW:
    Cardiff (H), Leinster (A), Munster (H), Scarlets (A), Ospreys (H), Connacht (A)

    LEINSTER:
    Dragons (A), Glasgow (H), Ulster (H), Munster (A), Zebre (A), Ospreys (H)

    OSPREYS:
    Munster (A), Dragons (H), Cardiff (A), Treviso (H), Glasgow (A), Leinster (A)

    SCARLETS:
    Edinburgh (H), Zebre (H), Dragons (A), Glasgow (H), Cardiff (H), Treviso (H)

    MUNSTER:
    Ospreys (H), Connacht (H), Glasgow (A), Leinster (H), Dragons (A), Zebre (A)

    I think Ulster and Glasgow are both safe in terms of playoff places, however both home semi-final spots are still up for grabs.

    Munster are really up against it now. IMO they'll need 9 points minimum from their next two games. If Ospreys win in Limerick (they've a great record home and away against Munster) then it's curtains. Unless Scarlets fall apart they should be through, very simple run-in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    Munster
    I think Munster are done tbh. The team is just misfiring so much .


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Yeah looks like Munster need one of the Scarlets or the Ospreys to have some sort of a meltdown to have any chance


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭Quint2010


    Leinster will be going balls out now for Glasgow and maybe even Ulster. I think those 3 are home and hosed. 4th is up for grabs and Munster are still just about in it. Apart from Leinster they have a relatively easy run in(on paper) but they seriously need to improve.


  • Site Banned Posts: 33 Lemonaski


    Just goes to show you how good Leinster were last week. That Treviso side are very underrated


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭jamiedav2011


    Lemonaski wrote: »
    Just goes to show you how good Leinster were last week. That Treviso side are very underrated

    Ah Treviso were a very different team last week.

    Scarlets' run in is insane, they're surely a shoe in for 4th if not third.

    Hope Leinster can keep pressure on Ulster and beat Glasgow at home.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ospreys
    Scarlets 11-13 Edinburgh, with 25 to go. Edinburgh could do Munster a huge favour!

    Edit: Glasgow 7-10 Cardiff Blues (latest score)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭totallegend


    Ospreys
    Scarlets 11-13 Edinburgh, with 25 to go. Edinburgh could do Munster a huge favour!

    And Glasgow being held by Cardiff


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    Munster
    Treviso could be about to put Leinster top...


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Leinster up to 59 points, potential to catch up with Ulster and Glasgow tonight


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ospreys
    Latest:

    Scarlets 14-13 Edinburgh
    Glasgow 10-13 Cardiff

    C'mon Edinburgh! :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭totallegend


    Ospreys
    I'll tell you what, following random games via the Rabo website is actually quite an exciting way to 'watch' rugby.


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ospreys
    Glasgow 24-13 up, they have time to chase the TBP


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭Quint2010


    Glasgow won with a BP. Go top.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭Tox56


    Feckin Glasgow, horrible place to visit too, wouldn't like to play them :(


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  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ospreys
    Quint2010 wrote: »
    Glasgow won with a BP. Go top.

    15 minutes left according to the Rabo update but they'll win unless they collapse.


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