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Jurassic World (may contain spoilers!)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭Rubecula


    Big marine dinos terrorising a holiday resort and sinking boats and ... Oh that is Jaws isn't it? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭Adam Khor


    Rubecula wrote: »
    Big marine dinos terrorising a holiday resort and sinking boats and ... Oh that is Jaws isn't it? :D

    First you would need marine mosquitos :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭Rubecula


    Adam Khor wrote: »
    First you would need marine mosquitos :D

    OK Giant Marine mosquitos that ate dinosaurs whole have survived and attack from the sky, smashing in through windows and destroying telephone kiosks andd ... oh bugga that was the Birds. Have they all been done before? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭Adam Khor


    Rubecula wrote: »
    OK Giant Marine mosquitos that ate dinosaurs whole have survived and attack from the sky, smashing in through windows and destroying telephone kiosks andd ... oh bugga that was the Birds. Have they all been done before? :D

    Jumanji had giant mosquitos that could pierce through car windshields :D

    Hmm what about giant Jurassic fleas? They DID find them fossilized...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭Rubecula


    Nice idea but most of the cinemas over here have them already :pac:

    Considering the Velociraptors developed into creatures that could reason and communicate, how about technological beasts? Possibly even have them riding on the backs of T.Rex and carrying weapons?

    ( I am running out of wild flights of fancy at this point)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭Adam Khor


    Nah, dinosaurs are supossed to be wild and primal... making them technological would ruin them IMHO...

    Just give me new dinosaur species and keep the nature-knows-better spirit of the first movies and I'll be a happy camper :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Adam Khor wrote: »
    First you would need marine mosquitos :D

    No doubt there were all manner of marine parasites back then. It'd be no huge leap of imagination to say they found blood/DNA in them. Marine reptiles could also have been washed up on beaches and eaten by mosquitoes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭Rubecula


    Could have been nibbled by crabs? Crabs were then found with soft tissue in their claws?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    Maybe they ll go down the feathery dinosaur route.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭Adam Khor


    Owryan wrote: »
    Maybe they ll go down the feathery dinosaur route.

    If they do, I hope they do with a different dinosaur than the ones we've seen thus far. Putting feathers on the raptors now would break the continuity even more than the change of look for Jurassic Park III... although I guess they can always say that some dormant genes from the actual dinosaur genetic code were activated somehow after several generations... :cool:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    They're reverting back to their natural state of being... 'life finds a way' :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭Adam Khor


    Galvasean wrote: »
    They're reverting back to their natural state of being... 'life finds a way' :P

    Yeah, I kind of like it now that I think about it :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    Honestly the degeneration from the 1st movie to the second movie was astounding especially considering the quality of the source material.

    Michael Crichton wrote Jurassic park and The lost world..........
    With Jurassic Park i feel like they kept relatively true to the essense of the book.

    With the lost world they took the name and a few bits and pieces and ****ed up the rest......... if they stuck closer to the book they would of been fine.

    By the time the third movie was made it was all just getting a little ridiculous i think.

    If ever a series should go back to basics its this one. Get the script right and the rest will follow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭Adam Khor


    Honestly the degeneration from the 1st movie to the second movie was astounding especially considering the quality of the source material.

    Michael Crichton wrote Jurassic park and The lost world..........
    With Jurassic Park i feel like they kept relatively true to the essense of the book.

    With the lost world they took the name and a few bits and pieces and ****ed up the rest......... if they stuck closer to the book they would of been fine.

    By the time the third movie was made it was all just getting a little ridiculous i think.

    If ever a series should go back to basics its this one. Get the script right and the rest will follow.

    I think this is a case of YMMV... I personally read both of Crichton's books and honestly, I like the movies more.

    I thought the first Jurassic Park movie was brilliant. It had the same message as the novel, but was much more entertaining. The only thing I like more about the book is that it had more dinosaurs. Yet, every time there was a dinosaur on screen in the movie, it was an awesome moment, so no problem there...

    As for The Lost World, I am actually grateful that they went on a different route... most of the characters in the book are unlikable (to me, anyways), especially that pedantic whiner Richard Levine and the unsufferable kids (well, there was Kelly in the movie and she is really kinda pointless but whatever). Let's face it, the only reason why there are kids in the book is so that Levine, Malcolm, Thorne, and Sarah can all speak page after page about scientific theories or their opinions on different matters- which are really Crichton's opinions. (Same happens in other books of him).
    And although this can be interesting for a reader, it would be very tedious if it was translated closely to a movie.
    I thought Spielberg did a fine job turning TLW into an adventure film with much more dinosaur action than the book had. Yeah, the characters were not very smart, but people are sometimes dumb in real life... it is certainly more believable than having everyone in the team sans the kids be an expert on everything like in the book.

    As for Jurassic Park III, I found it to be extremely enjoyable. Spinosaurus + giant aviary filled with pterosaurs + that scene at the end when they give back the eggs= great adventure movie in my book.

    I know some JP fans would recoil in horror reading this but, personally, if Jurassic Park IV is only as good as Jurassic Park III, I'll consider it a good sequel.

    I just hope they keep respecting the main theme of the saga which is that nature is wiser than us, and prevails at the end. The moment the saga crosses into "Jaws" territory- in which the dinosaurs are monsters to be exterminated, that's the moment when Jurassic Park dies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    Adam Khor wrote: »
    I think this is a case of YMMV... I personally read both of Crichton's books and honestly, I like the movies more.

    I thought the first Jurassic Park movie was brilliant. It had the same message as the novel, but was much more entertaining. The only thing I like more about the book is that it had more dinosaurs. Yet, every time there was a dinosaur on screen in the movie, it was an awesome moment, so no problem there...

    As for The Lost World, I am actually grateful that they went on a different route... most of the characters in the book are unlikable (to me, anyways), especially that pedantic whiner Richard Levine and the unsufferable kids (well, there was Kelly in the movie and she is really kinda pointless but whatever). Let's face it, the only reason why there are kids in the book is so that Levine, Malcolm, Thorne, and Sarah can all speak page after page about scientific theories or their opinions on different matters- which are really Crichton's opinions. (Same happens in other books of him).
    And although this can be interesting for a reader, it would be very tedious if it was translated closely to a movie.
    I thought Spielberg did a fine job turning TLW into an adventure film with much more dinosaur action than the book had. Yeah, the characters were not very smart, but people are sometimes dumb in real life... it is certainly more believable than having everyone in the team sans the kids be an expert on everything like in the book.

    As for Jurassic Park III, I found it to be extremely enjoyable. Spinosaurus + giant aviary filled with pterosaurs + that scene at the end when they give back the eggs= great adventure movie in my book.

    I know some JP fans would recoil in horror reading this but, personally, if Jurassic Park IV is only as good as Jurassic Park III, I'll consider it a good sequel.

    I just hope they keep respecting the main theme of the saga which is that nature is wiser than us, and prevails at the end. The moment the saga crosses into "Jaws" territory- in which the dinosaurs are monsters to be exterminated, that's the moment when Jurassic Park dies.
    Its great that you enjoyed them, but the studio and everyone involved in the project will be looking for a success more like JP1 .
    Jurassic park 1 made over 900 million
    Jurassic park 2 made over 600 millon
    Jurassic park 3 made over 300 million

    They need a solid storyline, which translates well to film before considering anything else, this is why no1 worked so well.

    I do wish them all the best with Jurassic Park 4 and will say if its up to scratch i will go see it in the cinema.

    Acutally Jurassic Park 1 in the cinema would be the most memorable movie of my childhood and an experience i will never forget.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Luckily JP!is being re-released this year in the cinemas. No plans for the sequels, so that has me thinking it won't reference them much.

    I'm also one of those people who thinks The Lost World as a book is vastly overrated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    Told my 4 yo bout the new film, his dinosaur phase is being replaced by zombies, and he asked "will the dinosaurs be allowed off the island this time?" suppose man and dinosaurs trying to co exist could work .

    I actually enjoy all 3 films but nothing beats the 1st appearance of the dinosaurs and the soundtrack to that moment



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭Adam Khor


    Owryan wrote: »
    Told my 4 yo bout the new film, his dinosaur phase is being replaced by zombies, and he asked "will the dinosaurs be allowed off the island this time?" suppose man and dinosaurs trying to co exist could work .

    I actually enjoy all 3 films but nothing beats the 1st appearance of the dinosaurs and the soundtrack to that moment


    I agree. I still get that feel of awe whenever I see this scene. :>

    What is it about zombies that they're so popular these days? :confused:

    As for dinosaurs and people coexisting... I doubt it, I mean, look at all the mayhem that single T-Rex caused in San Diego (ok, it was said that he was crazed by the drugs they injected him with, but still, what stops a T-Rex from rampaging through the streets and eating dozens of people whenever its hungry? In a world in which leopards, cougars and bears are not tolerated near human settlements, I doubt the authorities would be happy having multi-ton predators roaming the suburbs...)

    If the dinos do go to the mainland this time, I bet the main characters will try to capture them all before the authorities shoot them, or before they either kill a lot of people directly, or spread some sort of disease like in TLW book.
    But that would be a lot like the San Diego sequence at the end of the TLW movie, and a lot like Primeval too, so I doubt they're going down that route...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    Adam Khor wrote: »
    What is it about zombies that they're so popular these days? :confused:

    There's an element of fashionability about it - during the JP years dinos were quite en vogue, and we went through a period of alien obsession during the X-Files years. At the time JP was released the "dino-DNA" (still love that phrase :D) had been discovered and the question of genetically engineering a real life dinosaur was all over the media. Now we've become a world where viruses and unknown microbes are a real threat to us, and zombies fit in with that idea.

    I remember seeing JP1 the day after it was released in Leicester Square and nearly losing my life with excitement. I read the book not long after and devoured it in one night, but I try not to compare the two, they're so similar and yet evoke such different feelings. I was genuinely scared reading the book, but enthralled watching the story play out in front of my eyes on screen.

    I'll be tentatively excited about JPIV - I enjoyed all the previous movies, but in the case of JPIII it was no more than an eye candy movie, and it would be great to have a bit more substance to the next one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭Adam Khor


    g'em wrote: »
    There's an element of fashionability about it - during the JP years dinos were quite en vogue, and we went through a period of alien obsession during the X-Files years. At the time JP was released the "dino-DNA" (still love that phrase :D) had been discovered and the question of genetically engineering a real life dinosaur was all over the media. Now we've become a world where viruses and unknown microbes are a real threat to us, and zombies fit in with that idea.

    Such fads must replace each other very subtly because I actually believed dinosaurs were still quite "en vogue", and same with aliens... they're things that just refuse to let go of our imagination... I think the only reason why we don´t get more dinosaur movies or TV shows is because they're hard to fit in a story- either it's genetically revived creatures as in JP (which feels like a ripoff), or time travel as in Primeval or Terra Nova, or a "Lost World" scenario which is hard to believe nowadays...

    On the other hand, I did notice a sudden popularity increase for vampires with the whole Twilight (ugh) and True Blood things. I just never noticed when zombies started becoming so popular; it was like, one day I woke up, and everyone was talking about them...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Dinosaurs have been gradually slipping out of vogue for years now. I was rummaging around toy shops around Christmas looking for something to get my nephew. There's not much in the way of dinosaur toys outside of the cheap rubbery ones or the ghastly overpriced Sleich models. When JP1and JP2 came out the toy lines were huge - the real in thing. When JP3 came out there was a toyline, but it wasn't as big or as successful as those of the previous films. Heck, a lot of the JP3 line (incluing the really big Spino toy) didn't make it as far as Europe. Kenner must have decided to cut their loses after it didn't do so well in the States. The Chaos Effects line didn't make it this far at all. The big toy companies seem reluctant to commit to a large scale dinosaur line without a successful movie/TV franchise to piggyback off (hence why Star Wars, Ben10 and Transformers are everywhere). A good Jurassic Park film would fix that quite quickly.

    Nostalgia trip.

    It's not just the lack of big dinosaur movies, but also TV shows. Back in the 90s we had Walking With Dinosaurs which was a massive success. Now we have Dinosaur Revolution which is crap by comparison. It doesn't really get people excited about dinosaurs in the same way. Terra Nova bombed badly as well. Primeval had a toyline which was reasonably successful over here, but didn't make much impact in the States (as far as I'm aware they didn't get that far). I guess it was considered too niche a product.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    Santy delivered some pretty neat dinosaur sets to my house this year, along the lines of the vehicles used in TLW to trap the various dino's .

    Hopefully the re-release of JP and the release of JP IV will give dinosaurs a new lease of life. The problem I think is that a lot of kiddies book/tv shows have cartoonised dinosaurs and taken away their mystery and fierceness. While more grown up tv has definatly dumbed down or gone down the road of the "big bad baddy".

    In TLW I could understand why the t-rex were chasing the people but in JP 3 there seemed no reason for spiny to keep hunting them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Owryan wrote: »
    Santy delivered some pretty neat dinosaur sets to my house this year, along the lines of the vehicles used in TLW to trap the various dino's .

    These ones? My nephew has a few of them. They seem harder to come by these days.
    http://www.jptoys.com/other-toy-lines/chap-mei/dino-valley-2/index.htm

    Actually, look at all those JP toy lines that didn't make it to this neck of the woods :(
    http://www.jptoys.com/toy-database/index.php


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    Galvasean wrote: »
    These ones? My nephew has a few of them. They seem harder to come by these days.
    http://www.jptoys.com/other-toy-lines/chap-mei/dino-valley-2/index.htm

    Actually, look at all those JP toy lines that didn't make it to this neck of the woods :(
    http://www.jptoys.com/toy-database/index.php


    These :http://www.toys.ie/Dino-Valley-Capture-Playset-!116429-prd.aspx?qwSessionID=a1d36e22-4f00-4b32-b43a-2407bf1e4295

    And these: http://www.toys.ie/Dinosaur-Playset-!106342-prd.aspx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭Rubecula


    One thing I still don't understand. If they can make dinos from blood dna found in mosquitos Waht species of mosquito sucked the blood from the plant species that has been extinct since the Cretaceous?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭Adam Khor


    Rubecula wrote: »
    One thing I still don't understand. If they can make dinos from blood dna found in mosquitos Waht species of mosquito sucked the blood from the plant species that has been extinct since the Cretaceous?

    Well, you know how male mosquitos feed on plant juices instead of blood? Females need the blood to make eggs, so the female mosquitos would yield the dinosaur DNA and I suposse (let's not get into whether this would be possible at all or not) the males would yield plant DNA... either that or from other insects that feed on sap or stuff like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Owryan wrote: »

    Fun things those sets. They have a Pirates line too. I got my nephew the one with the shark last year. I assure you it is no referred to as Cretoxyrhina.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭Adam Khor


    Meh, I have no nephews to infect with my dinosaur obsession :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 346 ✭✭dorkacle


    I enjoyed all the movies, the first will always hold special memories for me though!

    Was brought to see it for my birthday an was blown away! :)
    Used to collect dinosaur magazines an all at the time! Every issue you got the part of a T -Rex skeleton!
    I remember I collected every single part, no idea where it is now though :(:(

    If they just started from scratch for JP4 or even ignored 2 and 3 I'd say there is potential for something quality.
    There is too much (rubbishy) back story that it could get hung up on if they continue on from JP 2 and 3 i reckon!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    They seemed to hint at funky underhanded doin's a transpirin' in JP3 with the "That wasn't on Ingen's list" line. I wouldn't want to completely overlook JP3, despite not thinking it was any much use as a film, as there could be potential in there.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,531 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Did you say that JP is out in cinemas again this year Galvasean? They must be 3Difying it or something since they're releasing it so soon again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Yep, converted to 3D. Will be shown in IMAX too :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,591 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    dorkacle wrote: »
    I enjoyed all the movies, the first will always hold special memories for me though!

    Was brought to see it for my birthday an was blown away! :)
    Used to collect dinosaur magazines an all at the time! Every issue you got the part of a T -Rex skeleton!
    I remember I collected every single part, no idea where it is now though :(:(

    If they just started from scratch for JP4 or even ignored 2 and 3 I'd say there is potential for something quality.
    There is too much (rubbishy) back story that it could get hung up on if they continue on from JP 2 and 3 i reckon!



    Glow in the dark one wasn't?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 346 ✭✭dorkacle


    OwaynOTT wrote: »
    Glow in the dark one wasn't?

    Yup!

    I remember too, where my dad used to work (steel fabrication) one of his colleagues had scanned every piece and put it into a CC machine, had the full model in stainless steel sitting on his desk!

    Coolest looking 'paperweight' EVER!

    My dad used to by the magazine for me at a newsagents near his job so he'd scan them then, unbeknownst to me at the time. I'd love one now :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭StaticAge11


    I actually still have all 78 of those magazines in my wardrobe. In awful condition, since i was about 7 or 8 when they came out, but still readable. The skeletons are long gone. There was a T-Rex and Stegasaurus and they were flimsy as hell!

    On the subject of the new movie, honestly cannot wait for it. Hoping for as much Dinosaur-action as possible. I felt 3's big let down was it spent too much time focusing on human relationships. Felt like more of a lame soap opera among the kirby's

    I also feel this movie needs to go back to Site A. Site B I feel has been a bit overused and I believe there could be some potential going back to Site A seeing how the environment and all the landmarks from the first movie have developed over the 20 years since nature took over. Nedry's shaving can also could be tied up!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭Adam Khor



    On the subject of the new movie, honestly cannot wait for it. Hoping for as much Dinosaur-action as possible. I felt 3's big let down was it spent too much time focusing on human relationships. Felt like more of a lame soap opera among the kirby's

    Funnily enough, some people complained that the first movie had shallow character development and some said that dinosaurs were better actors than the humans... (of course, I doubt anyone cared much about them anyways... what everyone wanted back then was to see the dinosaurs!)


    I also feel this movie needs to go back to Site A. Site B I feel has been a bit overused and I believe there could be some potential going back to Site A seeing how the environment and all the landmarks from the first movie have developed over the 20 years since nature took over. Nedry's shaving can also could be tied up!

    I agree that going back to Nublar would be cool... but why is everyone so obsessed with Nedry's shaving cream can?
    I mean, Dodgson specifically said at the beginning of the movie that the coolant gas in the can would only last for about 36 hours. That means by now the embryos are very dead, and completely useless. And considering the movie never stated that dinosaurs were exterminated as they were at the end of the first book, who would care about the can anyway? If anyone wanted to steal the dinosaurs they would simply go and round them up like in TLW, or steal the eggs as in the second book.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,531 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    I actually still have all 78 of those magazines in my wardrobe. In awful condition, since i was about 7 or 8 when they came out, but still readable. The skeletons are long gone. There was a T-Rex and Stegasaurus and they were flimsy as hell!

    On the subject of the new movie, honestly cannot wait for it. Hoping for as much Dinosaur-action as possible. I felt 3's big let down was it spent too much time focusing on human relationships. Felt like more of a lame soap opera among the kirby's

    I also feel this movie needs to go back to Site A. Site B I feel has been a bit overused and I believe there could be some potential going back to Site A seeing how the environment and all the landmarks from the first movie have developed over the 20 years since nature took over. Nedry's shaving can also could be tied up!

    Was there only 78 issues? could have sworn i ended up collecting over 100.

    Pretty sure they got chucked by my parents at some point, must have a rummage in the attic to see if they're still around just in case.

    Re Site A/B: Weren't all the dinos at site A engineered to die out without human attention? Thought thats why they had to go to site B in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭StaticAge11


    Mickeroo wrote: »

    Re Site A/B: Weren't all the dinos at site A engineered to die out without human attention? Thought thats why they had to go to site B in the first place.

    Lyscene dependency was supposed to kill them. They also said that they were all female and couldn't reproduce. Remember life finds a way ;)

    As regards shaving foam it just seems like it's the easiest way to return to site A, provides motivation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭Adam Khor


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Re Site A/B: Weren't all the dinos at site A engineered to die out without human attention? Thought thats why they had to go to site B in the first place.

    That's right but in TLW it is said that they fed on plants with a high content of lysine (Sarah Harding explains this to Malcolm soon after he finds her in site B), so if it happened in site B there's no reason to assume the same didn´t happen in site A.

    Also, the whole idea of "they can´t produce lysine by natural means" is kinda flawed because no vertebrates can produce lysine by themselves if I remember clearly...
    As regards shaving foam it just seems like it's the easiest way to return to site A, provides motivation

    What kind of motivation? Like I said, the can is completely useless now, the embryos would only last 36 hours.
    No one except for Dodgson knew about the can, and even so, if it was Dodgson who returned to the island intent on stealing the dinosaurs again, he would probably capture some live ones instead of bothering with embryos and frozen DNA...

    But I doubt Dodgson or anyone would attempt to steal the dinosaurs from either site A or B anymore, because after the incident in San Diego, it is implied that everyone in the world now knows about the existence of dinosaurs in the islands, and they are even given some sort of protected status, so if someone stole the dinos and exhibited them for profit, everyone would know where they came from and they would end up in jail (the thieves, not the dinos).

    The fact that the dinosaurs are known as a reality now in the JP universe instead of a rumor like in the books changes everything...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭Adam Khor


    Jurassic Park IV has attached director already... and chances are high you've never heard of him. I'm rather nervous about this D:

    http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/195812/jurassic-park-4-to-be-directed-by-indie-newcomer-with-one-film-under-his-belt/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    I wrote on Krank how I was looking forward to seeing what the new guy could bring to the table, but am now worried that the studios may bully him into making bad decisions due to his lack of experience on blockbusters...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭Adam Khor


    Trevorrow has said in Twitter that there won´t be feathered dinosaurs in Jurassic Park IV.
    Fans are already divided about this. What do you guys think? I personally am happy because that means that the continuity will be kept with the past films (which is more important in this case than scientific accuracy IMO).

    http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=76091#DFHkLlI1VclZkOP7.01

    So this is as birdlike as it gets, apparently:

    raptor.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    I'm happy enough to be honest. Continuity is more important than accuracy at this point in time. Then again, if dinos starting spouting feathers left right and center for no apparent reason it wouldn't be very scientifically accurate either!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Well to paraphrase the video at the start of JP1, because the DNA is so old, its full of holes, so they used frog DNA to patch the holes. So you could argue that the frog DNA over wrote the feather growing instructions. If they are very smart they could even incorporate this explanation in the movie somehow.

    Do we know is there going to be any original cast? I'm skeptical about this release, I have to say. It kind of feels like an excuse to sell toys, without an original story.

    Still no sign of a Dino Riders movie.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,531 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Adam Khor wrote: »
    Jurassic Park IV has attached director already... and chances are high you've never heard of him. I'm rather nervous about this D:

    http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/195812/jurassic-park-4-to-be-directed-by-indie-newcomer-with-one-film-under-his-belt/

    Highly recommend giving Safety Not Guaranteed a watch, great little film (its on netflix onstant in america now). Though I would have the same concerns as Galvasean.

    Regards feathers, I guess most of the film going public are still familiar with the more traditional look associated with dinosaurs, probably the thinking behind that decision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭Adam Khor


    syklops wrote: »
    Well to paraphrase the video at the start of JP1, because the DNA is so old, its full of holes, so they used frog DNA to patch the holes. So you could argue that the frog DNA over wrote the feather growing instructions. If they are very smart they could even incorporate this explanation in the movie somehow.

    Do we know is there going to be any original cast? I'm skeptical about this release, I have to say. It kind of feels like an excuse to sell toys, without an original story.


    I don´t think that's the case. The movie has been postponed for a long time precisely because there wasn´t a good story to tell. If selling toys was the goal, they would have made a terrible, cheap sequel years ago.

    I honestly think that, other than maybe a cameo by Hammond or something like that, we need a fresh cast; having Grant, Malcolm or Ellie return would be repetitive.

    (Just found this: http://www.nola.com/movies/index.ssf/2013/03/jurassic_park_4_to_shoot_in_ba.html

    If Jurassic Park IV is going to be filmed in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, then there is a possibility we won´t be returning to Nublar or Sorna... or maybe we will, who knows...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Wasn't most of the JP3 'jungle' filmed in a sound stage? Filming in a city doesn't necessarily mean dinos in a city/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭Adam Khor


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Wasn't most of the JP3 'jungle' filmed in a sound stage? Filming in a city doesn't necessarily mean dinos in a city/

    Very true, it doesn´t... I don´t know what sort of landscape there is around Baton Rouge but Louisiana does have some places that look a lot like prime dinosaur habitat (south eastern USA has swamp forests very reminiscent of late Cretaceous western North America), so maybe the dinosaurs have escaped and are now roaming these regions? Just a crazy thought... :D Of course we now know dinos would probably survive well in colder habitats but still, most people still expect to see them in torrid, green habitats...

    And there are so many alternatives... maybe they're gonna build a fake Costa Rica there? Yeah, maybe we should wait until they confirm or refute this rumor...

    (... yeah, I'm excited XD)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭Adam Khor


    There's always gonna be people who can´t sit back and enjoy a movie for what it is, so, let them bark...


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