Tarmac drive price 600m2 .

macadam

Wab0607 wrote: »

Just wondering is the SMA all it's cracked up to be. Was speaking with an engineer at work about it and he said he would have reservations about it on a domestic driveway as it could become quite brittle due to its lack of flexibility. But a lot of the contractors are saying they wouldn't go with anything else. Thoughts?

Was it a roads engineer or what does he specialise in..

Wab0607

macadam wrote: »

Was it a roads engineer or what does he specialise in..

Yes, a roads engineer

macadam

Wab0607 wrote: »

Yes, a roads engineer

Its highly recommended for driveways by both roadstone and Kilsaran two of the biggest suppliers of Bituminous products in the country, I have also done work for directors in Irish tar who both used it on there driveways.
Why may I ask would it be any different when used in driveways as opposed to roads

caddy16

macadam wrote: »

I would be worried about 40mm and also worried about €16 m2, youd probably end up with tarmac and 25 to 30mm finish...
Pm me details of the contractor pls

Thanks pm sent

Wab0607

macadam wrote: »

Its highly recommended for driveways by both roadstone and Kilsaran two of the biggest suppliers of Bituminous products in the country, I have also done work for directors in Irish tar who both used it on there driveways.
Why may I ask would it be any different when used in driveways as opposed to roads

Not sure tbh. As I said above his reservation was surrounding the lack of flexibility in the product and the potential for it becoming brittle as a result. He also mentioned something about what would be underneath. We also do a lot of work with the companies you've mentioned above so I would take his thoughts into account. Will have to query it again with him tomorrow.

rampantbunny

That's two evenings solid reading through all the posts on this thread. Great source of info. Macadam, you should be on commission.

I'm in south Galway and have approx. 650m² SMA to do. Looking for recommendations from anyone who's had a drive done esp. jobs completed 5+ years ago.

Additional question; ideally, checking depth of product should be done during install but in practice, is it done? If you have accurate areas, know the amount of product required (with the help of boards, wink wink) and get dockets for product delivered, is this sufficient?

enricoh

I'd make sure it put in by a machine not hand laid, not an expert but miles better imo .
They will level out the stone and leave it ready for tarmac and you could take dips between the two kerbs then.

macadam

Wab0607 wrote: »

Not sure tbh. As I said above his reservation was surrounding the lack of flexibility in the product and the potential for it becoming brittle as a result. He also mentioned something about what would be underneath. We also do a lot of work with the companies you've mentioned above so I would take his thoughts into account. Will have to query it again with him tomorrow.

Maybe he can help you with the other query you have!!!

"Driveway contractor - Cork
Hi. I'm looking to get driveway done. Would prefer Tarmac but as drive is quite long may have to look at tar and chip or gravel. Any recommendations for reliable contractors in Cork area that would give estimate.
Many thanks"

macadam

rampantbunny wrote: »

That's two evenings solid reading through all the posts on this thread. Great source of info. Macadam, you should be on commission.

I'm in south Galway and have approx. 650m² SMA to do. Looking for recommendations from anyone who's had a drive done esp. jobs completed 5+ years ago.

Additional question; ideally, checking depth of product should be done during install but in practice, is it done? If you have accurate areas, know the amount of product required (with the help of boards, wink wink) and get dockets for product delivered, is this sufficient?

Any reputable contractor will check the depth every couple of meters as they are laying to maintain depth, add temperatures to the above and your well on your way. Its like ordering concrete for an area you should have enough and maybe a little over, but if your short you will be in trouble, maybe not immediately but through time it will weaken.

Wab0607

macadam wrote: »

Maybe he can help you with the other query you have!!!

"Driveway contractor - Cork
Hi. I'm looking to get driveway done. Would prefer Tarmac but as drive is quite long may have to look at tar and chip or gravel. Any recommendations for reliable contractors in Cork area that would give estimate.
Many thanks"

Thanks for your time macadam, you've been so very helpful.

rampantbunny

macadam wrote: »

Any reputable contractor will check the depth every couple of meters as they are laying to maintain depth, add temperatures to the above and your well on your way. Its like ordering concrete for an area you should have enough and maybe a little over, but if your short you will be in trouble, maybe not immediately but through time it will weaken.

OK, noted that the installer should check depth, but in your experience does client also check depth to make sure they get what they are paying for (this is a common recommendation I've gleaned from this thread).
Is it checking final depth or checking depth uncompacted. Checking final depth implies damaging the finished product so patching is required, so do you have that conversation upfront i.e. 'you've got the job, but we aware that I'll be double-checking depths and you'll need to patch'
I suppose I always try to avoid being that awkward p***k of a customer that knows everything and trusts nobody.

I must post up a picture also of a slope that I've not included in the area for SMA. The gradient is sharp IMO but maybe SMA can be laid on it regardless. Would appreciate an opinion.

bunderoon

Sorry to jump on this thread but looking for advice.

~540sqm of tarmac to be redone.
Origianal tarmac is down about 35 years. I'm not the original owner of the property.
I presume that there is 804 underneath that as there isnt much of a moment/potholes in all these years.

Got a quote for 8,800 (inc VAT) for 75mm SMA.
I wasnt there for the quote, my wife took it and it was said to her that since there is a good base to work with,that the tar can be broken up and used as a base as it has worn down over the yeats BUT that the new tar will be 1.5in above where it's currently at. We are getting new curbing so to allow for that 1.5" height difference.

I would have thought that the old tarmac would be broken up and removed. Then new 804 down where needed, compacted and then the 75mm put down.
I'll be ringing them to clarify, but in the meantime, any advice on this would be greatly welcomed.

macadam

bunderoon wrote: »

Sorry to jump on this thread but looking for advice.

~540sqm of tarmac to be redone.
Origianal tarmac is down about 35 years. I'm not the original owner of the property.
I presume that there is 804 underneath that as there isnt much of a moment/potholes in all these years.

Got a quote for 8,800 (inc VAT) for 75mm SMA.
I wasnt there for the quote, my wife took it and it was said to her that since there is a good base to work with,that the tar can be broken up and used as a base as it has worn down over the yeats BUT that the new tar will be 1.5in above where it's currently at. We are getting new curbing so to allow for that 1.5" height difference.

I would have thought that the old tarmac would be broken up and removed. Then new 804 down where needed, compacted and then the 75mm put down.
I'll be ringing them to clarify, but in the meantime, any advice on this would be greatly welcomed.

Who was the contractor please ??
You are being taken for a ride sally ride...The SMA material alone is costing around €9 grand, he is VAT registered so you got his VAT number and checked him out you also got to sign up for the HRI scheme?

macadam

rampantbunny wrote: »

OK, noted that the installer should check depth, but in your experience does client also check depth to make sure they get what they are paying for (this is a common recommendation I've gleaned from this thread).
Is it checking final depth or checking depth uncompacted. Checking final depth implies damaging the finished product so patching is required, so do you have that conversation upfront i.e. 'you've got the job, but we aware that I'll be double-checking depths and you'll need to patch'
I suppose I always try to avoid being that awkward p***k of a customer that knows everything and trusts nobody.

I must post up a picture also of a slope that I've not included in the area for SMA. The gradient is sharp IMO but maybe SMA can be laid on it regardless. Would appreciate an opinion.

Contractor should be checking his depth every few metres before compaction, if he is reputable he wont mind you checking depths.

macadam

Wab0607 wrote: »

Thanks for your time macadam, you've been so very helpful.

Your welcome..

rampantbunny

macadam wrote: »

Who was the contractor please ??
You are being taken for a ride sally ride...The SMA material alone is costing around €9 grand, he is VAT registered so you got his VAT number and checked him out you also got to sign up for the HRI scheme?

Just reading up on the HRI scheme.

From Revenue:
You cannot claim for any work carried out or paid for after 31 December 2018.
The only exception to this closing date is if planning permission was in place by 31 December 2018. If so, work carried out between 1 January 2019 and 31 March 2019 will qualify for the relief.

Is this still available, and what is meant by planning permission with respect to getting drive-way done?

zorch

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone has recommendations for a surface coating for a 15 year old Asphalt driveway? its become quite faded, starting to shed some chips

Any advice greatly appreciated

Thanks

macadam

zorch wrote: »

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone has recommendations for a surface coating for a 15 year old Asphalt driveway? its become quite faded, starting to shed some chips

Any advice greatly appreciated

Thanks

Best option would be to resurface it with 30mm of 6mm SMA plus add a coating of adhesive tack coat.
Or if ts not too bad sweep it clean remove all debris and paint on Liquafix S you will need it dry for 3 days before and 24 hours after, (nearly impossible in this country).

zorch

Thanks for the advice, was looking at Thompons drive seal in Woodies this morning - but reviews on that seem mixed.

macadam

zorch wrote: »

Thanks for the advice, was looking at Thompons drive seal in Woodies this morning - but reviews on that seem mixed.

Best leave it where it is..
Liquafix is produced by Tennants or Irish Tar and is a polymer bitumen, it will fade but it will also extend the life of your driveway material.

murphy31ie

Sorry I am totally clueless on this so bear with me. Looking to get a drive of roughly 235m2 done, there is a bit of an incline in the drive. I have heard about tar and chip, asphalt and SMA, would anyone be able to quickly tell me the difference and which I should be looking to use.

macadam

murphy31ie wrote: »

Sorry I am totally clueless on this so bear with me. Looking to get a drive of roughly 235m2 done, there is a bit of an incline in the drive. I have heard about tar and chip, asphalt and SMA, would anyone be able to quickly tell me the difference and which I should be looking to use.

SMA is what you need as a minimum on a driveway Marshall asphalt would be a step up and so on and on and on..

hollywoodhoppy

Hi all, I am looking at widening a tarmac driveway at the back of the house and creating a tarmac ramp to a shed (overall area is 150m2). The area is currently grass so there is a requirement for moving curbs and to introduce draining channels at the interface between old and new tarmac. The drainage on the existing tarmac is non existent (was done before i bought the house but i cant do much with that). So there is full groundworks required. Any indications on a price range for this to be done in Offaly or has anyone any recommendations for a contractor to contact for a quote?

Many thanks in advance.

macadam

hollywoodhoppy wrote: »

Hi all, I am looking at widening a tarmac driveway at the back of the house and creating a tarmac ramp to a shed (overall area is 150m2). The area is currently grass so there is a requirement for moving curbs and to introduce draining channels at the interface between old and new tarmac. The drainage on the existing tarmac is non existent (was done before i bought the house but i cant do much with that). So there is full groundworks required. Any indications on a price range for this to be done in Offaly or has anyone any recommendations for a contractor to contact for a quote?

Many thanks in advance.

How many Kerbs ? How many Channels and type? What length of pipe to existing drain Depth of the dig required? Access for digger and truck?
Photo would help..

murphy31ie

Hi, got a price of 28 euro a square metre for asphalt. 50 mill base coat and 40 mill top coat with 20 mill black chips. They are a well known outfit from Magherafelt in Northern Ireland. Any opinions on the price?

macadam

murphy31ie wrote: »

Hi, got a price of 28 euro a square metre for asphalt. 50 mill base coat and 40 mill top coat with 20 mill black chips. They are a well known outfit from Magherafelt in Northern Ireland. Any opinions on the price?

I dont think 50mm of base will hold up for trucks and a full paver to lay the top coat.

murphy31ie

macadam wrote: »

I dont think 50mm of base will hold up for trucks and a full paver to lay the top coat.

What depth do you think the base coat should be?

looksee

teepee wrote: »

Got a price today , 50mm tarmac over base .

8,500 euro plus vat .

Roadstone recently quoted me the exact same amount for 200 sq m - I had to have the site ready, drainage, kerbing and fall. Straightforward rectangle of tarmac.

I surmised that they have a minimum quote for domestic on a 'go away and stop bothering us, we are busy building roads' basis.

SirustheVirus

Hi Macadam,

Would you be able to expand on this? I am also looking to get my driveway done, Basically driveway, a bit out at the road along by the wall and also a bit at back of house where we park cars and walk to the shed.

Is Tarmac definitely not a runner these days? "Local Experts" are telling me I should either get SMA or Asphalt but I dont know the difference in quality or price between all of these? Also what depth should I ask for when getting a quote. Mine would be a pretty standard house nothing more heavier than a tractor and trailer with Turf and the Oil delivery truck should be coming in to me!

Thanks
Sirus

macadam

SirustheVirus wrote: »

Hi Macadam,

Would you be able to expand on this? I am also looking to get my driveway done, Basically driveway, a bit out at the road along by the wall and also a bit at back of house where we park cars and walk to the shed.

Is Tarmac definitely not a runner these days? "Local Experts" are telling me I should either get SMA or Asphalt but I dont know the difference in quality or price between all of these? Also what depth should I ask for when getting a quote. Mine would be a pretty standard house nothing more heavier than a tractor and trailer with Turf and the Oil delivery truck should be coming in to me!

Thanks
Sirus

Like your foundation of the house, if the sub base is not fit to take the weight it wont matter what depth of surfacing you lay.
Minimum" FINISHED DEPTH" 50mm, if your to lay asphalt what type is being specified ? Are they laying a base course etc?