Garda Sergeant can't afford food

Boombastic

Patrick2010 wrote: »

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According to author Kathy Sheridans post a while ago in the thread on the IT site they get 92 euro a week in child benefit, does that give an idea how many kids they have?
There's something not right about this story...

A Quote from above mentioned post of Katy Sheridan


"The sergeant earned €75,000 last year. Since then, between cuts and overtime abolition, his take home pay is back at around €710 a week, plus child benefit of €92, according to Mabs."



I think someone definitely has been telling porkies, either mabs, the 'victim' or the journalist :pac:

greecy_joe

mhge wrote: »

Point taken! Earns, not takes home of course.

another union tutored trick which so many public servants employ

quoting and refering to NET pay instead of gross , everyone else knows that NET pay is irrelevant , its GROSS and nothing else , wayne rooney may only take home 120 k per week but the sports pages refer to his 220 k per week wage packet , maybe he should star paying dues to siptu

jam_mac_jam

Pappa Charlie wrote: »

There sure are some bitter bitter people on these forums, wouldnt it be great if you could flick a switch and see the poster through your screen, many would turn and run a mile in shame with their cover blown, keyboard warriers and full of ****e. We shout about how great the Irish are but this recession is starting to confirm to me that we're 60% scumbags and begrudgers. Guess which bracket are paying the tax for the other bracket!

begrudgers, that's it. we are all jealous, oh wait... no we aren't. What are you talking about?

strandroad

Boombastic wrote: »

A Quote from above mentioned post of Katy Sheridan


"The sergeant earned €75,000 last year. Since then, between cuts and overtime abolition, his take home pay is back at around €710 a week, plus child benefit of €92, according to Mabs."



I think someone definitely has been telling porkies, either mabs, the 'victim' or the journalist :pac:

I think it's child benefit for three children (€140+€140+€148) divided by 4+ weeks. Depending on an actual age of the eldest who goes to college they have three or four children.

tayto lover

greecy_joe wrote: »

another union tutored trick which so many public servants employ

quoting and refering to NET pay instead of gross , everyone else knows that NET pay is irrelevant , its GROSS and nothing else , wayne rooney may only take home 120 k per week but the sports pages refer to his 220 k per week wage packet , maybe he should star paying dues to siptu

Instead of being bitter with the Public Sector maybe you should have tried joining them. Sour grapes written over all your posts -- all 18 of them. That is bitter to me and i'm not even in the Public Sector. I think the divide and conquer tactics are working though as there are many gullible people buying into it.

woodoo

Pubic servant struggling = no sympathy, Actor struggling = poor man

The actor guy stealing food from the shop on whinging to Joe Duffy started stuttering when asked about drinking wine, if he has to steal food he shouldn't be drinking at all.

tayto lover

woodoo wrote: »

Pubic servant struggling = no sympathy, Actor struggling = poor man

The actor guy stealing food from the shop on whinging to Joe Duffy started stuttering when asked about drinking wine, if he has to steal food he shouldn't be drinking at all.

Another invention of Joe's i'd say.
New story created everyday.

IzzyWizzy

ilovesleep wrote: »

How long ago was it since you went to college?

4/5 years ago maybe it was possible to pick up a part time job but nowdays jobs are hard to come by and few and far between. And tesco shelf stacking internships! taking real paying jobs out from the economy. How the hell can a student compete against that. My sister went back to collage about two years ago. She knew in advance she wanted that and she saved in advance. She was hoping to get work but she was unable to and she was living in a city. She had to live off her savings. She lived of 150 a week - rent, bills, 20 euro food in aldi.
She had the opportunity to save. A school leave does not. Even if they were to take a year off after school in the hope that they get work, they may not get work. Fcuk, they may not even get unemployment assistance depending on his her parents.

To some degree the state are responsible for this. The government of the time were egging people on that all was fine and dandy and many people went with it and many probably never saved for theirs third level thinking that free third level will always be there.

I didn't really have a traditional job during college, so your point isn't really relevant. I never worked in a bar or stacked shelves. I made a bit of money proofreading and correcting other students' essays and teaching English to foreign students (which I'm sure this woman's kid could do if they're such a 'high flyer'). However, most of my college funding was from student loans I'm now paying back. Why can't this woman's kid take out loans? Why is he/she expecting the parents to pay for everything?

I just don't get the sense of entitlement a lot of Irish people seem to have. I've been paying my own way since I was 18. I've had plenty of health issues and other problems which make my life difficult, I was made redundant when the economy started going down the sh1tter. I've still never been unemployed for longer than a week and never received a penny from the government. I know it isn't that simple for everyone, but I was brought up to believe that I had to support myself.

I logged onto Facebook tonight and a woman who has been on the dole in the UK for about 10 years and lives in a council house is giving out because 'they' (the council) haven't fixed something in her house. Going on about how disgraceful that is and how she shouldn't be living like that. So she's not working, she has all day free, she's fortunate enough to have been supported by the state for years and it's too much trouble to go buy a hammer and a few nails and fix something in HER OWN DAMN HOUSE? Why do so many people in the UK and Ireland just expect to be looked after? Able-bodied people who were educated to at least secondary level who can barely wipe their own arses? It's all about 'they' and 'them'.

Boombastic

woodoo wrote: »

Pubic servant struggling = no sympathy, Actor struggling = poor man

The actor guy stealing food from the shop on whinging to Joe Duffy started stuttering when asked about drinking wine, if he has to steal food he shouldn't be drinking at all.

No one sensible had sympathy for that idiot on Joe Duffy, he had a gym membership and a car, and a new show coming out:pac:

Patrick2010

woodoo wrote: »

Pubic servant struggling = no sympathy, Actor struggling = poor man

The actor guy stealing food from the shop on whinging to Joe Duffy started stuttering when asked about drinking wine, if he has to steal food he shouldn't be drinking at all.

Joe asked him him if they couldn't even afford one cheap bottle of wine a week when Joe( actor) said they don't drink at all now. He didn't stutter at all, your point is?

df1985

Its a pre budget spin story....cue all the other guards, teachers, nurses, soldiers etc reading that and getting all flustered about more cuts.

While they read it on their iphone.

Emeraldy Pebbles

Pappa Charlie wrote: »

There sure are some bitter bitter people on these forums, wouldnt it be great if you could flick a switch and see the poster through your screen, many would turn and run a mile in shame with their cover blown, keyboard warriers and full of ****e. We shout about how great the Irish are but this recession is starting to confirm to me that we're 60% scumbags and begrudgers. Guess which bracket are paying the tax for the other bracket!

Jesus, STFU.

Emeraldy Pebbles

IzzyWizzy wrote: »

I just don't get the sense of entitlement a lot of Irish people seem to have. I've been paying my own way since I was 18. I've had plenty of health issues and other problems which make my life difficult, I was made redundant when the economy started going down the sh1tter. I've still never been unemployed for longer than a week and never received a penny from the government. I know it isn't that simple for everyone, but I was brought up to believe that I had to support myself.

I logged onto Facebook tonight and a woman who has been on the dole in the UK for about 10 years and lives in a council house is giving out because 'they' (the council) haven't fixed something in her house.

Hmmm, you start by talking about Irish people's sense of entitlement, then give an example of a woman in the UK?

NIMAN

I still find it hard to believe all this story.

I think there must be something we ain't being told. Drink habit, drug habit, gambling habit?

Or loans that they aren't letting on about.

I wonder how much their Sky TV bill is every month?

IzzyWizzy

Emeraldy Pebbles wrote: »

Hmmm, you start by talking about Irish people's sense of entitlement, then give an example of a woman in the UK?

UK and Ireland. Same welfare culture.

Emeraldy Pebbles

IzzyWizzy wrote: »

UK and Ireland. Same welfare culture.

It was still meandering. You'll find freeloaders like this in every country. We're nothing compared to France when it come to entitlement.

Patrick2010

Whats with this begrudge aspect that people come out here?. I don't begrudge Mr Sargeant and his wife earning 75,000 a year, I'm just curious what their point is?, does he think we should pay our Sargeant 100,000 a year. If so what should we then pay guards, 65,000?. Genuinely, how much should he be paid to avoid his family having to eat cornflakes for the day?.
The country is broke, we pay out more than we take in.

greecy_joe

NIMAN wrote: »

I still find it hard to believe all this story.

I think there must be something we ain't being told. Drink habit, drug habit, gambling habit?

Or loans that they aren't letting on about.

I wonder how much their Sky TV bill is every month?

my guess is they have mortages on several homes , a close relative of mine works for a law firm which does a lot of work for guards, a lot of them are in trouble with debts via buy to let properties

Emeraldy Pebbles

Patrick2010 wrote: »

Whats with this begrudge aspect that people come out here?. I don't begrudge Mr Sargeant and his wife earning 75,000 a year, I'm just curious what their point is?, does he think we should pay our Sargeant 100,000 a year. If so what should we then pay guards, 65,000?. Genuinely, how much should he be paid to avoid his family having to eat cornflakes for the day?.
The country is broke, we pay out more than we take in.

Exactly! Good luck to anyone earning good money. But WHERE is that money going if they are struggling?

NIMAN

You could well be right Greecy Joe.

The numbers don't add up for me, there's something else which wasn't told as it wouldn't make the story sound as shocking.

If the story has "and we have 2 rental properties too" then it would not have been published.

whatdoicare

angeline wrote: »

30K a year means you are on the lower tax band. For people earning around €55 grand and on the higher tax band, a lot of money is eaten up by tax and pension levies, etc.

So, you believe this guy is paying over 45K in tax??

earlyevening

I agree. We're not hearing about the rental properties.

What a whingey bird moaning about ther situation while being selective with the truth. If they actually exist, I'd say yer man is a laughing stock down the station.

greecy_joe

earlyevening wrote: »

I agree. We're not hearing about the rental properties.

What a whingey bird moaning about ther situation while being selective with the truth. If they actually exist, I'd say yer man is a laughing stock down the station.

no , if their is one thing guards are good at , its sticking together , especially when it comes to defending what they have

MvsC3

Seriously... 65k a year and cant afford food! He has to be doing something else with his mega cash, I earn barely 28k (until my contract ends in feb..gulp) and wife has €82 weekly jsa, with one child and €860 monthly mortgage, with two personal loans totaling €700pm (bastrd boiler) we can still get food, maybe not tasty food but food none the less, he just needs to cut back.. hard, I booted out sky, eircom, and will only really go out for special occasions like christenings and weddings. God,.. imagine 65k a year... but i suppose its all relevant...65k...

Japer

no sympathy for garda sargents from me. They can retire on full golden pension after only 30 years "service". One I know in his early fifties spends half his time at his holiday home in the sun, playing golf. During his working life he hardly starved.....hads a great standard of living and was not a hard worker. The average retiring guard has a pension pot worth over a million euro if you were to buy it in the private sector.
The sense of entitlement and arrogance from some public servants is astounding.

Celticfire

Japer wrote: »

no sympathy for garda sargents from me. They can retire on full golden pension after only 30 years "service". One I know in his early fifties spends half his time at his holiday home in the sun, playing golf. During his working life he hardly starved.....hads a great standard of living and was not a hard worker. The average retiring guard has a pension pot worth over a million euro if you were to buy it in the private sector.
The sense of entitlement and arrogance from some public servants is astounding.

The sense of jealousy and begrudgery from some people is also astounding..

woodoo

Japer wrote: »

no sympathy for garda sargents from me. They can retire on full golden pension after only 30 years "service". One I know in his early fifties spends half his time at his holiday home in the sun, playing golf. During his working life he hardly starved.....hads a great standard of living and was not a hard worker. The average retiring guard has a pension pot worth over a million euro if you were to buy it in the private sector.
The sense of entitlement and arrogance from some public servants is astounding.

What about their pension that they could use to buy 2 apartments. You used to rave about that point.

kincsem

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PizzamanIRL

Just because he's a sergeant he makes the news.What about every other person with less that he has.

Boombastic

kincsem wrote: »

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wtf has that got to do with the price of turnips?