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Utopia Parkway

The ginger mini-Gilroy from Kerry is coming in for some stick from the English after Saturday's game. Can't blame them to be honest. Exposed as a spoofer but sure it's all clicks for OTB I suppose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slcehgz2Lhk

DEFTLEFTHAND

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

The ginger mini-Gilroy from Kerry is coming in for some stick from the English after Saturday's game. Can't blame them to be honest. Exposed as a spoofer but sure it's all clicks for OTB I suppose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slcehgz2Lhk

Utterly cringe inducing especially when you consider the result yesterday .

The Irish rugby media remind me of the English national soccer team press to an extent.


Full of arrogance, hype and bluster.

NIMAN

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Utterly cringe inducing especially when you consider the result yesterday .

The Irish rugby media remind me of the English national soccer team press to an extent.


Full of arrogance, hype and bluster.

Let's be honest, these guys are simply tubes, they know little about sport and are just repeating what more knowledgeable folk are saying.

Ger especially has a very slappable face (maybe thats just me?)

DEFTLEFTHAND

NIMAN wrote: »

Let's be honest, these guys are simply tubes, they know little about sport and are just repeating what more knowledgeable folk are saying.

Ger especially has a very slappable face (maybe thats just me?)

The smuggest man in Ireland.

17togo

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote:

The smuggest man in Ireland.

In fairness to Ger in that video he tried to call Eoin out on the smugness and cockiness! Christ I really enjoy it when the rugby team get beaten like that. The media coverage of them has completely turned me off rugby over the last few years.

jeremyj1968

17togo wrote: »

In fairness to Ger in that video he tried to call Eoin out on the smugness and cockiness! Christ I really enjoy it when the rugby team get beaten like that. The media coverage of them has completely turned me off rugby over the last few years.

I lost all respect for Ger Gilroy when he brought on the rape crisis centre the night that Paddy Jackson was found not guilty. The inference being that Gilroy himself had decided that they were guilty and the story should be covered as such.

17togo

jeremyj1968 wrote:

I lost all respect for Ger Gilroy when he brought on the rape crisis centre the night that Paddy Jackson was found not guilty. The inference being that Gilroy himself had decided that they were guilty and the story should be covered as such.

Oh I know, generally he's painful. Just in this case he actually tried to hold a debate by calling out the bull****. The only other journalists/broadcaster I've seen trying to do that is Ewan MacKenna and he gets attacked for doing so.

OldMrBrennan83

17togo wrote: »

Oh I know, generally he's painful. Just in this case he actually tried to hold a debate by calling out the bull****. The only other journalists/broadcaster I've seen trying to do that is Ewan MacKenna and he gets attacked for doing so.

MacKenna was having a field day on Twitter yesterday
Legend.

Tell me how

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

MacKenna was having a field day on Twitter yesterday
Legend.

His "Does this mean we aren't World Champions anymore?" was perfectly written to provoke a reaction.

OldMrBrennan83

Tell me how wrote: »

His "Does this mean we aren't World Champions anymore?" was perfectly written to provoke a reaction.

Everything he has written was to do that. And by God he's getting some amount of bites on the line.

Tell me how

Enjoyed the paper round today. Primarily covered the rugby and it just shows that 80 minutes is a long time in sport. From Grand Slam Step 1 before the game to the articles and points highlighted after shows just how things can change.

Stockdale not offloading early enough, Aki's passing being behind players, Henshaw somewhat clueless about full back duties and so on it really can turn quickly. (This was obviously McKenna's point in the Autumn).

I hope it does turn out to be a wake up call that we are not going to stroll to a 6 Nations and go in to the World Cup as second favourites.

Also interesting story at the end of the paper round about Naomh Éanna GAA Club in Belfast and just what they had to do to stay in operation throughout the troubles. Their club house, located in a primarily Unionist area of Belfast was burnt down 13 times throughout the troubles and one of their members was the last catholic killed in the conflict. I bet those players don't have to be reminded what it means to wear the jersey.

Edit
From the club website.
1981 – Liam Canning, 19, shot dead by off-duty UDR member.
1991 – Colin Lundy, 16, burnt alive at home in a sectarian arson attack.
1993 – Sean Fox, 72, club President tortured and shot at his home 200 yards from clubhouse by UVF.
1997 – Gerry Devlin, 36, senior team manager shot dead by LVF outside club gates.
2002 – Gerard Lawlor, 18, senior team midfielder shot dead in the last murder of ‘The Troubles’.

NufcNavan

I heard that Wexford couldn't field the full 15 for a camogie league match and were bet out the gate by Galway. Wonder if the SJWs on Newstalk will be fighting for the equal coverage of this?

Cannot believe that any senior inter county team couldn't field a full 15. Bad enough when it happens to clubs.

OldMrBrennan83

NufcNavan wrote: »

I heard that Wexford couldn't field the full 15 for a camogie league match and were bet out the gate by Galway. Wonder if the SJWs on Newstalk will be fighting for the equal coverage of this?

Cannot believe that any senior inter county team couldn't field a full 15. Bad enough when it happens to clubs.

Apparently Galway had to go to 13 for the second half to even it up.

dr.kenneth noisewater

They chose to go to 13 as they were hammering them in fairness to them. Fairly farcical stuff for a county in the all irelnd final less than 10 years ago!

applehunter

Cliona Foley & Andy McGeady together.

That's dull radio.

Utopia Parkway

applehunter wrote: »

Cliona Foley & Andy McGeady together.

That's dull radio.

Can't stand listening to Cliona Foley. Has me reaching for the off button.

Tell me how

Kieran Donaghy is joining the OTB team. Joe had him on tonight discussing it.
Not a bad selection in my view, he has interest in a wide range of sports (particularly basketball) and he is not afraid to express an opinion. Joe mentioned him being on in the morning and also on a dedicated football show as well as appearing on the night show with Nathan and Joe from time to time.
He also mentioned a Pardon the Interruption type show which is something from ESPN where two guys (Tony Kornheiser and Mike Wilbon) discuss key topics within a specific time frame and roll from one to the next. Be interesting to see how that develops.

OldMrBrennan83

Tell me how wrote: »

Kieran Donaghy is joining the OTB team. Joe had him on tonight discussing it.
Not a bad selection in my view, he has interest in a wide range of sports (particularly basketball) and he is not afraid to express an opinion. Joe mentioned him being on in the morning and also on a dedicated football show as well as appearing on the night show with Nathan and Joe from time to time.
He also mentioned a Pardon the Interruption type show which is something from ESPN where two guys (Tony Kornheiser and Mike Wilbon) discuss key topics within a specific time frame and roll from one to the next. Be interesting to see how that develops.

Sounds a good idea so long as it isn't as shouty as the US version. Good to see Donaghy on too, always found him a good listen.

jeremyj1968

Tell me how wrote: »

Kieran Donaghy is joining the OTB team. Joe had him on tonight discussing it.

the likes of the cliffords, the geaneys, the galways, the dublins, the Mayos the...

I'm not going to listen to that sh1te for too long.

Tell me how

jeremyj1968 wrote: »

the likes of the cliffords, the geaneys, the galways, the dublins, the Mayos the...

I'm not going to listen to that sh1te for too long.

Sure, some hate everything about the show now and still listen....

Jayesdiem

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Can't stand listening to Cliona Foley. Has me reaching for the off button.

“It’s a really lovely piece”.

Pauliedragon

I liked Padraig Amond on tonight. Good on him he's getting some exposure maybe gets himself looked at by bigger clubs. I'm a fan of Cunningham but at the start of the interview he was staring at the desk looking like he was reading the question off a sheet or something. I thought it looked a bit rude to be honest.

Ol' Donie

I reckon Donaghy will be a very strong addition.

Fair play, hope it works.

gormdubhgorm

Tell me how wrote: »

Sure, some hate everything about the show now and still listen....

Not true in my case. I have stopped listening completely.
I just lurk (on here now) to see if there is anything new or worthwhile on it these days.
I don't seem to be missing much from the looks of things.

I bet I could give a list of all the things that annoyed me about the show and they still would not have changed in a years time?
It seems like it is going to be as is for a decade or so at least.
Maybe I have just outgrown the show and can't stick listening to them.
I don't know. But I get my sports info from other sources now. Do I really want to suffer listening to opinions of people I don't value? Or stuff I have heard before.
Or people trying thier damndest to be' interesting'/'clever'/'smug'.
Then throw in forced 'banter', throw in a bit of cliches, an agenda or two, a bit of waffle and that's the show.


I looked at Eoin Sheahan's rugby clip from this post:

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

The ginger mini-Gilroy from Kerry is coming in for some stick from the English after Saturday's game. Can't blame them to be honest. Exposed as a spoofer but sure it's all clicks for OTB I suppose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slcehgz2Lhk

Anyway, an aside.

If anyone has watched he 'Ballad of Hugo Sanchez' Or 'Club de Cuervos' on Netflix there is a whimpering sycophantic character called 'Hugo Sanchez' who works for a fictional football club in Mexico.
He is the PA to the fictional football clubs chairman.

To me Eoin Sheahan is an Irish version of Hugo Sanchez, he is the image of him except for the ginger loaf on him.

ButtersSuki

Tell me how wrote: »

Kieran Donaghy is joining the OTB team. Joe had him on tonight discussing it.
Not a bad selection in my view, he has interest in a wide range of sports (particularly basketball) and he is not afraid to express an opinion. Joe mentioned him being on in the morning and also on a dedicated football show as well as appearing on the night show with Nathan and Joe from time to time.
He also mentioned a Pardon the Interruption type show which is something from ESPN where two guys (Tony Kornheiser and Mike Wilbon) discuss key topics within a specific time frame and roll from one to the next. Be interesting to see how that develops.

PTI is my favourite talking heads show. I can only see the OTB version going one way......and it's not good. Kornheiser and Wilbon are serious journalists with long careers in the print media with respected US newspaper giants; they have incredible chemistry, are naturally funny, and balance each other brilliantly - a wonderful on-screen pairing. I can't think of 2 Newstalk OTB broadcasters who can match them in any way. The one thing they have in their favour I guess is there's not many here who would be familiar with PTI, and wouldn't have anything similar to compare it to.

Missed Wednesday Night Rugby tonight as I was tied up with something else so going to listen to it now. It and the Monday version are my only regular OTB listens in recent times....I used to be a few hours a night but I've lost the stomach for it in recent years TBH. Oh and I listen to the Sunday Paper Review....depending on who the guests are.

jeremyj1968

Tell me how wrote: »

Sure, some hate everything about the show now and still listen....

I don't listen anywhere near as much as I used to. There's no law saying that I can't tune in when I've run out of podcasts. Just caught the interview last night, was hoping the announcement was Woolly coming back but alas no.

Howitzer the 5th

Tell me how wrote: »

Kieran Donaghy is joining the OTB team. Joe had him on tonight discussing it.
Not a bad selection in my view, he has interest in a wide range of sports (particularly basketball) and he is not afraid to express an opinion. Joe mentioned him being on in the morning and also on a dedicated football show as well as appearing on the night show with Nathan and Joe from time to time.
He also mentioned a Pardon the Interruption type show which is something from ESPN where two guys (Tony Kornheiser and Mike Wilbon) discuss key topics within a specific time frame and roll from one to the next. Be interesting to see how that develops.

More superficiality. Whatever about O'Driscoll's standing as a genuine rugby great with a calm natural understanding of his intricately officious chosen sport and Kilbane's affable disposition and bland bbc safe affectation, this fella is a hard sell. Better player than wooly and a far better standing in gaeldom but is a desperate ear grinder.

ButtersSuki

This is just a personal statement and not intended as offensive, but Kerry accents (many Munster accents actually) really hurt my ears. I doubt I’ll be able to tolerate Donaghy even doing basketball (which I’m hugely interested in and is barely covered in the Irish media) for that reason.

Pussyhands

That's it, won't be tuning in again. I hate the kerry accent, hearing the ad with him in it gives me a headache.

Loafing Oaf

[QUOTE=gormdubhgorm;109356105
If anyone has watched he 'Ballad of Hugo Sanchez' Or 'Club de Cuervos' on Netflix there is a whimpering sycophantic character called 'Hugo Sanchez' who works for a fictional football club in Mexico.
He is the PA to the fictional football clubs chairman.

To me Eoin Sheahan is an Irish version of Hugo Sanchez, he is the image of him except for the ginger loaf on him.

[/QUOTE]

Not as much as Andrew Scott IMO