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PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Great interview with Mark Kennedy. Not sure why they are splitting it up and only feeding us scraps every couple of days.

The segments are annoying, I'll listen to whole thing in one go when it's added as a podcast, there were stages where I was hoping Kilbane would challenge Kennedy on some of his answers (mainly in relation to Brian Kerr) but on the other hand, it was good just to see Mark Kennedy speak his mind without being directed down certain paths or being forced to react to certain types of questions

seiphil

Enjoyed the parts of the Kennedy interview they put up.

He seems to be quite a petty person.

His and Kerr's fallout is a bit of a nothing really. Mountain out of a molehill.

Conservative

He abandoned his previous support of RoI and his only ties to Ireland (the country!) now are family because HE FELL OUT WITH ONE MANAGER.

Seriously..

dr.kenneth noisewater

Conservative wrote:

He abandoned his previous support of RoI and his only ties to Ireland (the country!) now are family because HE FELL OUT WITH ONE MANAGER.

He seems to have fallen out with him without Kerr even knowing about it!

OldMrBrennan83

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PeterTheNinth

Joe is painful about this Rory McIlroy thing.

Doing this "normalises" Trump. Half the f**king country voted for him.

Conservative

I have only caught the last few minutes of this.. Is McIlroy obliged to be outraged by Donald Trump? The man who just received 62 million votes to become US president? What if he is a supporter?

"Respecting the office"

Joe Molloy just gone right down in my estimation. Stick to the sport lads.

Conservative

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Joe is painful about this Rory McIlroy thing.

Doing this "normalises" Trump. Half the f**king country voted for him.

Normalises.. Best line of all!

rufuseric82

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Great interview with Mark Kennedy. Not sure why they are splitting it up and only feeding us scraps every couple of days.

I thought it was terrible. Was totally disjointed and Kilbane seemed unable to challenge him on anything. I thought Kennedy came across very poorly. I think it shows the difference between having an ex player and a journalist doing the interview.

I do like Kilbane though and think he's been a great addition to the show.

Kauto

What a **** er Joe Molloy. Trying to goad the Laois lad into saying something he shouldn't. Soft touch

OldMrBrennan83

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Ol' Donie

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Joe is painful about this Rory McIlroy thing.

Doing this "normalises" Trump. Half the f**king country voted for him.

Wasn't it closer to a quarter? Like, very close to a quarter?

Anyway, did i just see an ad for a Joe Molloy hosted rugby show after the Champion's League on TV3?

Conservative

Ol' Donie wrote: »

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Joe is painful about this Rory McIlroy thing.

Doing this "normalises" Trump. Half the f**king country voted for him.

Wasn't it closer to a quarter? Like, very close to a quarter?

Anyway, did i just see an ad for a Joe Molloy hosted rugby show after the Champion's League on TV3?

Almost half of the people that bothered to vote, not a huge amount less than 2012, voted for Trump.

I think the lower turnout reflects more on how horrible and uninspiring Hillary Clinton was as a candidate than it does on Trump or even Obama.

I am not a Donald Trump supporter on many issues and his lack of awareness on even the most basic international situations is embarrassing to watch but he is keeping his promises on the economic/immigration policies he campaigned on. Can't remember the last time any of our own politicians did so!

None of this belongs on a sports show!

Tell me how

Conservative wrote:

I am not a Donald Trump supporter on many issues and his lack of awareness on even the most basic international situations is embarrassing to watch but he is keeping his promises on the economic/immigration policies he campaigned on. Can't remember the last time any of our own politicians did so!

Conservative wrote:

None of this belongs on a sports show!

Or on a thread about that show.

Lt Dan

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Joe is painful about this Rory McIlroy thing.

Doing this "normalises" Trump. Half the f**king country voted for him.

That was segment absolutely diabolical. If I could be bothered, his statements were worthy of making a compliant. Utterly biased political broadcast.

The Head of Rory's "Fan Club" was worse, almost in tears. With any hope, the fan boy is dying inside. Apparently, this will lead to a backlash. He is loaded! He will still get endorsements etc.

Neither of these lads know Rory. I could not stand how they "presumed" or "assumed" what Rory's motive was. And the nonsense Joe said about Tiger meeting Trump

Joe is perfectly entitled to an opinion, but his political opinion is mostly certainly not sought for when doing a sport programme.

Joe would be best served over with Pat Kenny and leave the sports to other people - alas, the other guys are just as bad.

Lt Dan

Conservative wrote: »

I have only caught the last few minutes of this.. Is McIlroy obliged to be outraged by Donald Trump? The man who just received 62 million votes to become US president? What if he is a supporter?

"Respecting the office"

Joe Molloy just gone right down in my estimation. Stick to the sport lads.

He is just about capable on the sports side of things either;)

Good broadcaster but at times, clueless on basics on certain sports

Pity, he was pretty good in the next segment when that Laois fella came on : GAA v other sports and children

Lt Dan

Tell me how wrote: »

Or on a thread about that show.

Well., actually, this thread is about ..........what happened on OTB

OTB got political last night. All people here did was ........discuss that the broadcasters said. Some simply said that it should not have been part of the show's content, others have engaged with what was discussed and questioned the broadcaster and his guest. It is enviable.

Shall we move on ? :cool:

dominatinMC

Maybe it's just me, but I find Joe increasingly pompous, and even a bit arrogant, lately. I have listened to OTB for a long time but I find a kind of arrogant tone in his voice lately, as if he believes his own hype (wow, he's won a few PPI Sports Presenter of the Year awards!). Of course, this is just my reading of it, and I'm probably off the mark with this view!

Lt Dan

dominatinMC wrote: »

Maybe it's just me, but I find Joe increasingly pompous, and even a bit arrogant, lately. I have listened to OTB for a long time but I find a kind of arrogant tone in his voice lately, as if he believes his own hype (wow, he's won a few PPI Sports Presenter of the Year awards!). Of course, this is just my reading of it, and I'm probably off the mark with this view!

Nah, last night he was very pompous. Who cares how uneasy he fells and how disappointed he feels about Tiger Woods, knowing next to nothing about his politics?

If Joe really felt the need to try and defend Rory or try and suggest to the listeners what he thinks was Rory's motive, why didn't they call him or wait until Rory as free to talk?

What on earth makes the Rory Fan club guy think Rory remotely cares about what he thinks?

A few texters who complained about Joe's stance were told that they were talking nonsense on the basis that Joe was entitled to his opinion. Fair enough, Joe was. But, Joe was not entitled or at least not expected to grace us with his political views on a god damn sports programme.

The other lad, Ger Gilroy is like that too at times

Shame, because, when both are good, they are very good.

Mantis Toboggan

Off the ball making the same mistakes as the second captains lads by trying to talk politics on a sports show.

Kitsunegari

It's incredible that someone on Denis O'Brien's payroll can have the audacity to criticise McIlroy for playing a round with the elected US president. Keep politics out of sport. Joe Molloy is terrible anyway. I've no idea why anyone would want to listen to his views on anything.

Loafing Oaf

Would anyone be able to link me up with the Michael D interview, doesn't seem to be playing for me off the podcasts page

ballsymchugh

dominatinMC wrote: »

Maybe it's just me, but I find Joe increasingly pompous, and even a bit arrogant, lately. I have listened to OTB for a long time but I find a kind of arrogant tone in his voice lately, as if he believes his own hype (wow, he's won a few PPI Sports Presenter of the Year awards!). Of course, this is just my reading of it, and I'm probably off the mark with this view!

he's becoming fierce obnoxious on twitter too, hates being pulled up on a mistake, seems to affect him deeply.
a couple of weeks ago, he read out a saturday headline during the sunday paper review. something about ex arsenal players going on about Wenger.
his mini meltdown was kinda funny.

ghostdancer

i know it's been said in the past, but it was funny listening to the lads talk about Pie-gate last night and betting in sports being a scourge and a serious problem, when they themselves are sponsored by a betting company and have the presenters betting on the outcomes of games each week, with the betting sponsor spokesperson coming on for some PR.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Jesus Christ Joe, keep you simplistic lightweight political views to yourself. Stop using the show to virtue signal, just stick to the sport like a good boy.

Lt Dan

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Jesus Christ Joe, keep you simplistic lightweight political views to yourself. Stop using the show to virtue signal, just stick to the sport like a good boy.

There lies the laughable thing.

His views are lightweight and simplistic.

You can imagine if a guest of his, like say, Kimmage, a more experienced, cynical but on the ball type of chap (excuse the pun - Pat Kenny style) , just for a laugh and not even been serious, challenged him on anything he said that was political ... Joe would throw a strop and exclaim, "right, I was just giving my opinion , jeez, I am entitled to do that" (to which the producers would go, "eh, no you are not, this is a sports show") No attempt would be made to back the opinion up with any substance.

CatFromHue

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Would anyone be able to link me up with the Michael D interview, doesn't seem to be playing for me off the podcasts page

you could try the listening to it via the listen back page. I think it's part 3 for saturday's show

PeterTheNinth

Kitsunegari wrote: »

It's incredible that someone on Denis O'Brien's payroll can have the audacity to criticise McIlroy for playing a round with the elected US president. Keep politics out of sport.

Agree with this. It's sheer hypocrisy. Especially given the nature of what went on with the Esat deal. They hardly have the moral high ground.

But on a separate point, I think that Joe is in danger of boxing himself in to a corner. He says he "is finished" with the olympics. He also has no time for the FA Cup any more, so he says. And when they sent him to Brazil to cover the world cup, he carried on like he had been sent to a Russian goulag. And now he's not happy with his favourite golfer Rory McIlroy.

If you were one of the broadcasters and you were looking for somebody to present the olympic show or the FA Cup, would you really pick somebody who was "finished" with them? I dont think it's a good professional move for him to make such statements.

PeterTheNinth

rufuseric82 wrote: »

I thought it was terrible. Was totally disjointed and Kilbane seemed unable to challenge him on anything.

It's funny though, cos he reminds me of a load of guys that I would have played with at lower levels. Just couldn't get on with any of the managers, and would storm off at the drop of a hat. I do actually feel sorry for people like Kennedy and Balotelli though. They will both look back on their careers and think "Jesus, if I had only put my head down for a few years, think of what I could have achieved, instead of now just being on one of those 'wasted talent' top ten lists".

PeterTheNinth

Kauto wrote: »

What a **** er Joe Molloy. Trying to goad the Laois lad into saying something he shouldn't. Soft touch

Yeah I thought he was childish with that as well. Every couple of sentences he would come back in with his mealy mouthed "Well my FEAR would be that telling people to go and play soccer is not the right thing to do". I did get the feeling that he was baiting him as well.