Rangers FC On Field Gossip & Rumour Thread 2017 Mod Note in OP(Updated 14/08)

Coillte_Bhoy

Geordies singing 'You're not rangers anymore"

lubo_moravcik

Lennonist wrote: »

:pac: Comical Ali had nothing on this guy, interview is all over the place. The upshot of it is that he wants 14 million pounds by Friday, or else he's going to be hanging around. They're going to have to stump up if they wants him out.

How weird is it that he would announce the figure he wants in a TV interview? Have never seen football business conducted like that before.

Aye 14,000,000 for 28% lol. Look at all they zeros. How much did this guy actually pay for the club/holding company, and how much of his own hard earned has he put in??

Jelle1880

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

A rangers supporting mate on Facebook saying supper ally isn't in dugout for Newcastle game. Any truth in this?

He's in the stand, near to the director's box.

blahfckingblah

hes in the stand apparently

lubo_moravcik

Jelle1880 wrote: »

He's in the stand, near to the director's box.

blahfckingblah wrote: »

hes in the stand apparently

Cheers. I take it Chico isn't up there eh. Wonder who the guy is with the massive chin though.


any truth in this one from RangersMedia?

URGENT: All Rangers fans attending tomorrow's friendly with Newcastle United, after the final whistle remain in your seats or remain standing.

As a protest to what's going on with our club, we'd like all fans to participate in not leaving the stadium until we get the answers we want from our club.

Dempsey

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

Cheers. I take it Chico isn't up there eh. Wonder who the guy is with the massive chin though.

Which guy? Craig Mather is to the left of McCoist.

Jelle1880

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

Cheers. I take it Chico isn't up there eh. Wonder who the guy is with the massive chin though.


any truth in this one from RangersMedia?

RM don't have any say, fans will just leave the ground and go home.
A few anti-Green chants heard, but that's about it.

Green's there by the way.

According to reports Mohsni has been immense.
Can't beat Forfar, draw with Newcastle.

Ah well.

Eirebear

Jelle1880 wrote: »

According to reports Mohsni has been immense.
Can't beat Forfar, draw with Newcastle.

Ah well.

Completely different team mate.

As angry as I was with McCoist at the weekend - we all knew that the duds of last season would struggle and that until we get to see what the team put out tonight can do with regular games we can't really judge him.

Plus, it's only a friendly.

Jelle1880

JIM MCCOLL has launched a blistering attack on Charles Green, accusing him of pushing Rangers to the brink of another financial disaster.

And he insisted the Yorkshireman does not deserve to squeeze a penny more out of his cut-price Ibrox buy-out.

McColl spoke exclusively to Record Sport yesterday in an attempt to slap Green down after the former chief executive appeared on a number of TV stations demanding to be paid £14million for a 28 per cent stake in the club. Green’s media onslaught was a premeditated plan to ridicule McColl’s move to wipe out the current boardroom, even though the Scot has the backing of a huge percentage of the institutional shareholders who are the club’s majority shareholders, as well as that of Walter Smith who stood down as chairman on Monday.

But McColl came back with all guns blazing as he explained why he won’t be “bullied” into handing over any of his own personal fortune in order to oust Green and his cohorts.

And why he believes this bitter battle for control of Rangers will be won by his group without Green getting rich on the back of it.

McColl said: “People may well say, ‘Hold on you’re Jim McColl. Why don’t you just hand over £14m and buy the club from him?’ Obviously I find that frustrating because it’s just not as simple as that.

“There is a bigger job here to safeguard the future of the club – it’s not about lining Charles Green’s pockets. It’s about cleaning up the mess these people have created and doing what is right for Rangers.

“My own professional commitments prevent me from coming in lock, stock and barrel because I have a duty to the people with whom I do business. But my money is not necessary here.

CLIFF

“That’s the point many people are missing, Green included. This was never going to be a buy-out or a takeover. This is just a matter of ensuring the club is run correctly by people who have Rangers’ interests at heart.

“Because I have my own business to concentrate on I have stayed out of this situation in the past. But things are now so serious that someone has to step in. I couldn’t see anyone else doing it and couldn’t stand back and watch it going over the cliff.

“But I’m also not prepared to give £14m to Green. I wouldn’t give that man a penny and I would encourage no one else to give money to him because he’s just an opportunist. He has his eyes on the big prize and wants to walk away with a couple of million.

“But the feeling is, even among people who know these guys and how they go about their business, that they have been too greedy and it will come back and bite them. They are not smart enough to carry it off.”

Green, though, appears determined to make one final stand in order to make millions from the club he bought on the cheap last summer, paying just £5.5m to buy its assets.

He said: “What I’d say to Jim McColl – the world’s richest Scotsman – is to put £14m into a bank account by Friday and my consortium will deliver 20 million shares which is about 28 per cent of the club.

“Then I will know he’s serious about it.

“He will then have invested some cash into the club he wants to run but he won’t do it without putting some money on the table and in the last 18 months none of them have done it.”

McColl has demanded the removal of chief executive Craig Mather, finance director Brian Stockbridge and non-executive director Bryan Smart from the board. He and the institutional investors who joined him in signing a requisition for an EGM want former Blue Knights leader Paul Murray and financial high-flyer Frank Blin to be appointed as directors.

But McColl has advised both Murray and Blin to keep their hands in their pockets until Green has gone for good.

He said: “We would all be open to accusations of trying to buy Rangers on the cheap. That’s not what this is about.

“This is about trying to do the right thing.

“In my village if bullies came in the whole village would get together to sort them out and send them packing. That’s what we are doing.”

And Murray said last night: “The shareholders own Rangers Football Club, not Green.

“These shareholders have demanded change because of the financial mismanagement of the club since it raised £23m from the IPO.

“No one in their right mind is going to pay money to Green.”

JIM MCCOLL is a man in a hurry. By his reckoning there are just 36 days left to save Rangers from20 years of further financial pain and suffering.

The clock began ticking last Thursday when McColl, along with a group of London-based institutions who share his worst fears, demanded an EGM in order to wipe out the current Ibrox board and remove Charles Green and his cohorts from power.

The men running Rangers now have over a fortnight left to make these changes – booting Brian Stockbridge, Craig Mather and Bryan Smart out of the boardroom and appointing Paul Murray and Frank Blin as directors in their place.

If not then a bloodbath of a general meeting will be triggered and the proposals put to the vote three weeks later.

McColl, one of Scotland’s wealthiest business experts, is convinced his side will not lose. More importantly, however, he is just as certain that this is a battle Rangers can’t afford to see him lose.

Which is why he broke cover yesterday to explain to Record Sport his part in this latest brutal conflict.

He said simply: “If we don’t act now to get rid of Green and the clique which has been supporting him this club is in danger of going into a very dark place.

“It could take 10 to 20 years to repair the damage they are doing and I cannot and will not sit back and allow that to happen.

“That’s why I have decided to step into this and do whatever I can in the name of Rangers. Let’s all be very clear here, it’s a battle I do not intend to lose.

“This football club means a great deal to me. It’s an iconic Scottish business with a fantastic future which can not be put at risk any longer by a small clique of people who wish to benefit themselves.

“What we are watching here is a group of opportunists from another country who have absolutely no emotional attachment to Rangers – and no interest in how the club performs – but who have spotted an opportunity to try to make a quick buck.

HONESTY

“They’ve had their fun. It’s time for them to go.”

McColl has received the full backing of nine-in-a-row manager Walter Smith, who chose to quit his post as chairman on Monday after failing to block Green’s return to the club as a consultant.

Smith also believes the men in charge of his club must be driven out of office and believes that between them, McColl, Murray and Blin have the honesty and acumen required to drag Rangers back from the brink of another financial disaster before Insolvency II comes calling.

Green yesterday attempted to ridicule this plan by calling on McColl to hand over £14m and pick up the keys to the front door on Friday.

The Yorkshireman also emphasised repeatedly that McColl and Murray had previously failed to stump up the money to save Rangers from his clutches and from those of previous owner Craig Whyte.

But McColl is adamant there is no need for any more money to change hands in order to seize control.

In fact, as a point of principle, he does not want to see Green make another penny out of the chaos the former chief executive has worked so hard to create.

He added: “Look, it’s pretty straightforward. All this talk about handing over £14m is designed to cause Rangers supporters further confusion, many of whom are understandably struggling to keep up with events inside the club.

“We have called for an EGM and if it goes to a general meeting they will be turfed out. It doesn’t have to go to a general meeting – they can agree to do it and save the club a lot of money and a lot of time.

“That would be the honourable thing to do – to walk away. Eventually they can sell their shares for a huge profit and thank god they got away with it.

“But if they don’t they will be forced out anyway and they realise that. The process has already begun and they are running out of time.

“We submitted the requisition last Thursday. They have 21 days from that date to accept the requisition and make the changes asked for. If they do not do it, under company law, because we have more than five per cent of the shareholders signing it, we can requisition a general meeting ourselves. It will then be out of their hands. There would then be another 21 days notice before the meeting could take place.

“So, from last Thursday, they had 42 days left. The best thing they can do is walk away now and allow us to build up a competent board. Allow us to put proper people in there to run a club of this standing.”

STABILITY

McColl fears that, without these changes, the big hitters who ploughed £17m into the Rangers IPO in December will run for the hills, selling their shares to anyone at knockdown prices in a desperate attempt to cut their losses. The shares they bought at 70p have almost halved in value in just seven months.

And with very little of the total £23m which was raised from that flotation still left in the bank (estimates were as low as £7m towards the end of last season) McColl knows the money is running out. He has been assured by the biggest investors they will be prepared to help finance his planned clear-out. That, if more of their cash is required to secure the club’s long-term stability, they will hand it over. But only on condition Green and his men are sent packing.

McColl added: “Green will probably try to do something to protect his own interests. I find it a joke that he has already returned as a consultant to take even more money out of the company. His role is supposedly to advise Rangers and help them with the shareholders.

“But it’s the shareholders who want Green out. Any shareholder worth his salt would not give him another penny. I understand he is trying to raise more money right now, perhaps with people in the Middle East. So he’s up to something but I am here to make sure he doesn’t get back in.

“He may even want to get back on the board and make himself chairman but, as I understand it, he would need to have the approval of the SFA. I don’t think he would get that approval.

“I would be prepared to lobby the SFA myself to tell them why he shouldn’t be allowed back in.

“It’s time people acted to protect Rangers, that is my only intention.

“Make no mistake, this is as serious as it gets.

“The investors have run out of patience and are not willing to support the club financially unless these changes are made. That’s why it must be sorted out.

“The next few weeks could be the most crucial in the history of the football club. There is no doubt about that in my mind.”

This EGM needs to happen.

Dempsey

Fact remains that Sevco needs a cash injection regardless of who is on the board and the likes of Jim McColl could have bought Rangers for £1-2, didnt, could have bought the assets of Rangers from D&P for a pittance and didnt. He doesnt seem willing to inject cash, is he going to cancel those trialists contracts to reduce costs? Ask the board not to take a salary?

Dempsey

Only saw this last night, how could ye deprive us so long of Charles Green acting a spanner! :pac: Cringe worthy! :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rplaYVgBk0E

SFA's Campbell Ogilvie: Fit & Proper Person rules wouldn't necessarily rule out Paul Murray. The criteria is guidance for a board to decide.

Only a guide? I thought the SFA have the power to block people? The SFA really need to tighten up the Fit & Proper Persons rules, or Ogilvie needs to stop scratching backs!

Also heard that McColl (4 shares), Murray (has none) & Blin (has none) currently have less than £4 invested in Sevco. Now Dave King wants Green to lower his asking price. The buzzards are circling again!

A Dub in Glasgo

Conflict of interest straight away with Olgilvie, the SFA are a farce of an organisation

Jelle1880

Dempsey wrote: »

Also heard that McColl (4 shares), Murray (has none) & Blin (has none) currently have less than £4 invested in Sevco. Now Dave King wants Green to lower his asking price. The buzzards are circling again!

That has nothing to do with 'buzzards'.

Green wants 14m, which is a massive overpricing of the shares.
Of course they want him to lower the price.

Dempsey

Jelle1880 wrote: »

That has nothing to do with 'buzzards'.

Green wants 14m, which is a massive overpricing of the shares.
Of course they want him to lower the price.

Sevco is close to administration if you realise it or not. Its a loss making entity, has been since its inception. The money generated from the IPO has nearly all been used. Sevco executives have been paying themselves big bonuses for winning the lower divisions when their playing budgets far exceed anyone they play! How can they justify that when the company is hemorrhaging money!

Charles Green wants to be bought off and all the guys that wouldnt buy Rangers for a £1 or buy assets from D&P are now waiting for the money to run out so they can leverage a takeover. Yes, the buzzards are circling.

Jelle1880

Charles Green - £720k
Imram Ahmed - £700k
Brian Stockbridge - £400k
Ally McCoist, Kenny McDowall & Ian Durrant - £1.5m

What was spent on the management to win SFL3.
And the Trust, Association and Assembly sit there and nod, even after Stockbridge said he 'didn't know where the money from the IPO went'.

McColl and/or King need to come up with something asap.

The Rangers Standard ‏@RangersStandard 50s
CM - Have to call a board meeting. Next scheduled is next month but we'll call a board meeting within next 7 days to discuss Green.

Maybe they can pay him off again.

Dempsey

Jelle1880 wrote: »

CG - £720k
IA - £700k
BS - £400k
AM, KM & ID - £1.5m

What was spent on the management to win SFL3.
And the Trust, Association and Assembly sit there and nod, even after Stockbridge said he 'didn't know where the money from the IPO went'.

Unbelievable, £400k would be the annual turnover of some SFL3 clubs!

Seen someone say on twitter, thats its approximately 1/3 of the season tickets or ~10% of turnover! :eek:

Broxi_Bear_Eire

First league game if the season today versus Brechin

Rangers: Gallacher; Hegarty, Faure, Cribari, Wallace; Little, Black, Law, Macleod; Crawford; Daly


SUBS: A Smith, Gasparotto, McAusland, McKay, Aird, Shiels, Murdoch.

Wallace wears the armband as Jig is suspended

Jelle1880

Green not at the ground, what a surprise.

Decent team, hope a good win to kick off the season.
Great to see the fans with banners out in force against the board.

Jelle1880

1-0 after just a minute lol, Hegarty with a tap in.






Great goal by Law, 2-0

Broxi_Bear_Eire

What a goal for Brechin an overhead kick perfectly executed well done the Brechin player Jackson
2-1

Coillte_Bhoy

....

Broxi_Bear_Eire

3-1 to Rangers Black from the spot after Little was brought down resulting in a straight red for the Brechin defender

Coillte_Bhoy

Sorry, i deleted it almost immediately, i had a laugh, but then thought better of posting it here

Broxi_Bear_Eire

4-1 Rangers delightful goal from Dean Shiels

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Sorry, i deleted it almost immediately, i had a laugh, but then thought better of posting it here

I found it funny nothing wrong with a joke

Jelle1880

That was a beauty.

Pretty calm start to the second half but it picked up afterwards.

All in all a very good game.

Hagar the Nice.

Happy days are here again,:) Aye,right.
Glenn Gibbons hit the nail on the head this morning when he penned this article in the Scotsman,the only guy with the balls to say it as it is about Walter Myth,the guy who walked out on Oldco when Murrays cash cow ran dry,walked out of Scotland during a World Cup campaign and now walks out of Newco when the going get's tough.

Denial is a natural and convenient refuge whenever crisis invades the affairs of man, and nowhere in recent times has the phenomenon been more visible or more vehement than in the aftermath of the liquidation of Rangers Football Club.


Nobody could reasonably take exception to dedicated supporters fighting their team’s corner in the event of perceived attacks from numerous quarters, but when defiance spills over into delusion, the truly relevant and potentially most harmful fundamental problems tend to be neglected in the cause of impulsive and ill-conceived retaliation.

Hence the readiness of too many of the Ibrox club’s followers over the past few years not only to acclaim, but to go to war on behalf of a succession of extremely unreliable (and generally self-styled) “redeemers”, from David Murray through Craig Whyte to Charles Green and sundry other figures of dubious motives and 
character.

The most remarkable and unfathomable aspect of the support for the various liberty takers is that so many should rush to demonstrate such vociferous and frequently hostile allegiance to men whose “credentials” sprang mainly from hearsay, or, more often, from ill-informed media speculation.

Yet Murray, whose excesses initiated the economic devastation that made the club vulnerable to the predatory and plundering Whyte and Green, was allowed to enjoy without a murmur of suspicion from anyone connected to Ibrox 20 years of steady, but unrelieved, erosion of its finances.

When the former director, the late Hugh Adam, made his apocalyptic assessment of the Murray modus operandi, he was shouted down as merely a bitter ex-employee. 
As far as can be ascertained, none of his detractors so far has admitted that everything Adam predicted has come to pass.

At the first whisper from outside observers of Whyte’s potential for inflicting further damage on Rangers, there were marches in his defence on the BBC headquarters in Glasgow and, of course, the hundreds-strong protest outside the empty SFA offices at Hampden Park one gloriously comical Saturday morning.

Green was another hero originally the object of adulation and undying devotion on the grounds that he and his consortium had rescued the club from extinction by producing the funds to acquire its assets, while other supposed saviours simply made 
inconsequential noises.

Now, following his return in the decidedly nebulous role of “consultant”, Green appears to attract new levels of hissing from the faithful with each passing day. To borrow from Terry Jones in Monty Python’s Life Of Brian, they were not Messiahs, they were very naughty boys.

All of this turmoil was bound to leave a support as broadly-based as that commanded by the Ibrox club as disarrayed as the institution itself, with internet forums throbbing with charge and counter-charge among fans who, ironically, share the primary wish of seeing their team achieve a new pre-eminence.

Yet, despite the cause and effect of the present chaos, there remains a puzzling insistence among the overwhelming majority of football reporters that Walter Smith remains “the only man the fans can trust.”

This is a distinction that hardly squares with Smith’s own inconstancy since the descent towards liquidation began early last year. Having fronted a consortium said to have included the billionaire businessman, Jim McColl, in a late bid to foil the takeover by the Green group, and having followed this with an entreaty to fans not to buy season tickets on the grounds that the new owners could not be trusted, Smith was curiously happy to accept a non-executive directorship (reputedly for a substantial honorarium) when it was offered by Green.

By the time he accepted the invitation to assume the chairmanship three months ago, Smith had been strangely quiet throughout his time on the board, a silence that would continue after his elevation. Throughout the turbulence, he has demonstrated a propensity for shifting loyalties that seems unbecoming for an aspiring – and inspiring – leader.

Indeed, Smith’s rather fluid sense of loyalty and allegiance recalls a line from Robert Bolt’s play, A Man For All Seasons. Berating his son-in-law, Will Roper, over his changeable, on-off relationship with the church, Thomas More tells him: “We must just pray that when your head stops spinning, your face is to the front again.”

Despite his history of vacillation and being satisfyingly rewarded at Ibrox, when Smith quit this week (he had been Green’s enemy, then his ally, and now he’s reverted to enmity), he triggered an extraordinary series of eulogies. One newspaper article described his efforts on Rangers’ behalf in these hard times as “valiant” and “selfless”, adjectives that would sit more comfortably on aid workers in the world’s most dangerous places.

Another reminded us of Smith’s imperishable love of the club with the quite absurd claim that he had even relinquished his post as Scotland manager in 2007 to ride to Rangers’ rescue after the team’s slump while in the hands of the hapless Paul le Guen. In recording this act of heroic sacrifice, the author omitted the detail that Smith’s defection from Hampden may have been at least partly inspired by the assurance that he would more than triple his wages.

If there has been so much as implied criticism of Smith’s departure, it has concerned the likelihood that he has left his old ally, Ally, as an easy target for Green’s whimsy. This is as unwarranted as the fawning tributes that would have Smith 
recognised as a demi-god.

With a seemingly endless string of impulsive, ill-considered and ill-advised outbursts on a range of issues and events – in addition, of course, to too many embarrassing setbacks in competitions at home and in Europe – McCoist has proved perfectly capable of finding trouble on his own.

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Away and play with the buses some of us are interested in football take your bitterness elsewhere

Hagar the Nice.

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Away and play with the buses some of us are interested in football take your bitterness elsewhere

Bitterness,where?
Truth hurts and Zombies don't like the truth.

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Hagar the Nice. wrote: »

Bitterness,where?
Truth hurts and Zombies don't like the truth.

You forget we already know your a bitter wee person from your posts about us in the tic thread. Remember you said you couldn't bring yourself to post in here well you should pay attention to your own words.
You seem ever so slightly obsessed with us but hey that just shows how much you miss us xx