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Jimmy Saville exposed

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    #1172
    Neeson
    Registered Users Posts: 3,909 ✭✭✭Neeson


    You can't convict someone for not speaking up.


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    #1173
    IvyTheTerrible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    Neeson wrote: »
    You can't convict someone for not speaking up.
    I thought certain professions could be at least sanctioned for non-reporting of sexual abuse?


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    #1174
    Lingua Franca
    Registered Users Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭Lingua Franca


    If you're bound by child protection legislation (which is anyone who works with children, these days)then you can be heavily sanctioned for not reporting any kind of suspected abuse. Unfortunately child protection legislation is a relatively new concept. I doubt anything similar existed in the 60s and 70s and you can't retrospectively apply it. Not least because, as we can see, everyone's going "well, I sort of suspected but I didn't really know". It would be virtually impossible to prove.


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    #1175
    Odysseus
    Registered Users Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    goat2 wrote: »
    of course they should dig him up,
    he was buried at the very top of hill in graveyard, overlooking decent people buried in that cemetary,
    now if my brother sister mother father were buried in that graveyard, i would not like him at top of hill, reminding me that he is better than all the rest down along, when he in fact should be at the bottom of the hill

    Ah I see, well that makes sense. You are making an interpretation as to what being on top of the hill, or at the bottom mean.

    I don't think that this is true, it is not a good reason to move his body in my opinion of course.

    People seem amazed that Saville was able to do what he did, I'm not. Maybe it is becuase of my exposure to this type of material, I think the real effort should be focusing on how we can address this, and prevent this from happening on this type of scale again.

    We are just wasting energy going on about how/where he is buried. If we move him, who is next?


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    #1176
    Odysseus
    Registered Users Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    Stroll wrote: »
    They really need to cut the bullshite with this, like seriously it's beyond a joke... if theres evidence of people involved or people who with held information wrap the scum of the earth up and press charges.

    I'm obviously missing something I know, but what's the problem I'm missing??? No matter what it is how is there people standing back and letting these people get away with this

    It takes time to do this correctly, and it should take as long as it takes. It is more important that the whole procedure is followed correctly; as opposed to a rush job. The risk then is something is missed or a mistake is made and a guilty person could walk free because of it.

    This whole thing is going to take years to address fully.


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    #1177
    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,068 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    It's getting silly now

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/itv-faces-ofcom-probe-over-silly-stunt-055234914.html
    ITV could face an Ofcom investigation after This Morning presenter Phillip Schofield handed the Prime Minister a list of alleged paedophiles live on air.

    Though I wonder if OFCOM have launched any investigation into how Savile managed to and got away with molesting a girl live on air...


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    #1178
    Azure_sky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,131 ✭✭✭Azure_sky


    Actually for Halloween I dressed up in a white wig, silver tracksuit, gold medallion and smoked a cigar, It scared the ****ing **** out of the neighborhood kids.


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    #1179
    Odysseus
    Registered Users Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    My name is URL wrote: »
    It's getting silly now

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/itv-faces-ofcom-probe-over-silly-stunt-055234914.html



    Though I wonder if OFCOM have launched any investigation into how Savile managed to and got away with molesting a girl live on air...

    I think Schofield was wrong, I like my criminals convicted by the process of law; not trail by media. I do think he should be sanctioned for his behaviour, I hope it has not interferred with any prosecutions.

    I don't know was OFCOM around at that time?


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    #1180
    Zebra3
    Registered Users Posts: 13,863 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Odysseus wrote: »
    I don't know was OFCOM around at that time?

    I seriously doubt it.


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    #1181
    donegal_road
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭donegal_road


    sorry if this has been posted before, but Im not going to trawl through 71 pages to see if it has

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imT3U0LFRTM


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    #1182
    Abi
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    donegal_road wrote: »
    sorry if this has been posted before, but Im not going to trawl through 71 pages to see if it has

    Yeah, it has. Sick stuff, and shockingly brazen.


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    #1183
    M cebee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭M cebee


    the meecham guy has just admitted he was mistaken about lord mcalpine after seeing a photo of him
    duh!


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    #1184
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Full story here

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/nov/08/mistaken-identity-tory-abuse-claim

    and once again proof of the dangers of anti social media (and Newsnights slack editorial standards).


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    #1185
    Stroll
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    Odysseus wrote: »
    It takes time to do this correctly, and it should take as long as it takes. It is more important that the whole procedure is followed correctly; as opposed to a rush job. The risk then is something is missed or a mistake is made and a guilty person could walk free because of it.

    This whole thing is going to take years to address fully.

    I understand that they have a lot of knots to untangle but people have known and suppressed this for years.
    If it's at the scale which it appears, how have enough people not stepped forward with enough information to get everyone involved yet?? What were/are they all afraid off??? Losing there jobs??? Threats??? How could anyone let ANYTHING stop them from disclosing all this, like it's about kids being molested and multiple lives destroyed not someone robbing a chocolate bar in a shop or something stupid!!

    Plus at this rate most involved will have led there life already by the time there caught.


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    #1186
    mayobumblebee
    Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭mayobumblebee


    My name is URL wrote: »
    It's getting silly now

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/itv-faces-ofcom-probe-over-silly-stunt-055234914.html



    Though I wonder if OFCOM have launched any investigation into how Savile managed to and got away with molesting a girl live on air...

    i cant believe that:eek::eek::eek:

    what the hell were they thinking now every single person with the idea of taking the law unto themselves or "helping" the police will be all over it.
    what a media circus!! cant help but wonder are the police going to get anything done with all the media stunts being pulled
    pity the family members now wanting nothing to do with this and having to pay over and over again for a relative who is berried to keep having his grave changed to suit the current media frenzy.


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    #1187
    Rascasse
    Registered Users Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭Rascasse


    Top story on Newsnight tonight is..... Newsnight. What an almighty fúck up from the BBC. As they are saying on twitter; they suppressed the Jimmy Savile programme due to lack of evidence, then broadcast the programme about McAlpine with no evidence.

    Time for a Leveson style inquiry for the BBC I think.


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    #1188
    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,068 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    It's funny all the same.

    Really showing up how easy it is for new & old media to absorb & destroy one another.


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    #1189
    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,068 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    lmfao..

    Eddie Mair (BBC Newsnight presenter) - "Obviously we contacted the BBC for comment on this story but nobody from the BBC was available"

    - Live on BBC 2 :o

    He does not sound like a happy bunny. I reckon someone from backstage is about to rugby tackle him!


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    #1190
    Rascasse
    Registered Users Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭Rascasse


    What???

    Eddie Mair (the Newsnight presenter) just said "of course Newsnight wanted to get a comment from the BBC, but nobody was available". He then gave a telling stare into the camera. Unbelievable.


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    #1191
    steve9859
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭steve9859


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Funny all the same.

    Not for Lord McAlpine.

    Or anyone else that will have their reputations destroyed by twittering idiots (hiding behind 'free speech' bullsh1t) on the Internet who assume guilt with no facts.


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    #1192
    Rascasse
    Registered Users Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭Rascasse


    My name is URL wrote: »
    He does not sound like a happy bunny. I reckon someone from backstage is about to rugby tackle him!

    Yep. I know Paxman doesn't do Fridays but he or Wark or Esler should be presenting this. Not (who I see) a second string presenter.

    "Is Newsnight toast?". Says it all.


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    #1193
    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,068 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    steve9859 wrote: »
    Not for Lord McAlpine.

    Or anyone else that will have their reputations destroyed by twittering idiots (hiding behind 'free speech' bullsh1t) on the Internet who assume guilt with no facts.

    ...and the stupefied 'journalists' that are so ready to run with such unverified claims.


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    #1194
    youreadthat
    Registered Users Posts: 761 ✭✭✭youreadthat


    Brasseye suddenly looks like a documentary.


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    #1195
    Pompey Magnus
    Registered Users Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    Only trying to catch up on this now but am I right in thinking that Meesham guy must have never googled or sought out a single picture of the man he was accusing of abusing him 30 years ago, even though he was a prominent political figure?


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    #1196
    Rascasse
    Registered Users Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭Rascasse


    Pompey Magnus wrote: »
    Only trying to catch up on this now but am I right in thinking that Meesham guy must have never googled or sought out a single picture of the man he was accusing of abusing him 30 years ago, even though he was a prominent political figure?

    The problem was, I think, that he was molested by a family member of Lord McAlpine. Also, he was molested in the 70's or early 80's but wasn't shown a picture of Lord McAlpine until the 90's. He identified the picture as the molester - but there is no information whether he was shown a picture of Lord McAlpine from the 70's or a recent one. Any family resemblance may have confused him too.

    It's worth noting that the original public inquiry into this said that he wasn't abused by Lord McAlpine. Yet the BBC and everyone else ignored this.


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    #1197
    M cebee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭M cebee


    the director-general says he didn't know it was mcalpine until it became clear from twitter comments this week


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    #1198
    donegal_road
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭donegal_road


    some of the allegations I found online regarding the names associated with Jimmy Saville are outrageous and if found to be true would bring the entire British establishment tumbling down.. any possibility I wonder?


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    #1199
    mike65
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    You found online, don't tell me - David Ike et al?


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    #1200
    M cebee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭M cebee


    donegal_road wrote: »
    some of the allegations I found online regarding the names associated with Jimmy Saville are outrageous and if found to be true would bring the entire British establishment tumbling down.. any possibility I wonder?
    the mistake the bbc just made isn't going to help


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    #1201
    donegal_road
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭donegal_road


    mike65 wrote: »
    You found online, don't tell me - David Ike et al?

    well, senior Tory and Labour politicians whos names were brought up, prompted me to read articles on Masonic orders within government etc., I was reading about Lord McAlpine mentioned above, then Lord Robertson whos name was also in the mix, and Robertson's association with Thomas Hamilton (Dunblane), the last article I was reading was this.




    Kind of makes you think, doesn't it?


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