Ulster Bank League 2012-2013 talk/gossip/rumours

FellasFellas

plus guaranteed 1A rugby next year, UCD still have a long way to go to get to the top flight.

CGD

lurtz wrote: »

coghlan to tarf i hear

That is SCM I presume?

lurtz

Jordan

Liveforrugby

lurtz wrote: »

coghlan to tarf i hear

Can he just do that?

CGD

lurtz wrote: »

Jordan

Bit of a schock there!

CGD

Wonder if he is going to stick at centre or return to 8?

opinionatedfan

sticking from what i've heard, could be wrong though.

CGD

He could be the 1st of a few high profile departures from UCD

bamboozle

lurtz wrote: »

coghlan to tarf i hear

He's local and plays his cricket there, have seen him up recently but at the same time it wouldn't make huge sense to Leinster to have collie o Shea and himself and the Clontarf captain Ryan all fighting for the 12 spot.

Wouldn't be surprised if marsh and David Doyle or James Tracey end up at lansdowne to replace ronaldson and Tom sexton.

Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny

Think a lot of Academy lads in UCD will leave if don't make it into 1A, McGrath being another linked to leaving, Marys possibly. Be surprised if many left if they go up....

YM apparently losing a few too as are Bohs with JJ Hanrahan going back to a 1A side

Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny

YM coach Mike Prendergast moving to france to be skills coach at Grenoble where Bernard Jackman is defence coach.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/rugby/prendergast-takes-coaching-role-at-frances-grenoble-227940.html

Beery Eyed

Massive win for Old Belvo last night, beating Lansdowne 34-18 with a try bonus point. Moves them clear of the bottom and with two games left for most teams it now looks certain that Shannon & UL Bohs will be battling it out to avoid finishing bottom.

ormond lad

Nenagh beat Barnhall 29-6 but as Naas hammered Instonians they go into playoff for promotion to 2A.
2A
champions: Terenure
promoted: Corinthians
playoff: Banbridge
playoff: Greystones
relegated: Midleton and DLSP.
Greystones at home to Naas to decide last place in 2A
2B
champions: Rainey Old Boys
promoted: NUIM Barnhall
playoff: Naas
playoff: Clonakilty
relegated: Connemara

Tullamore promoted as round robin champions
Clonakilty at home to Richmond to decide last place in 2B

lurtz

ucd beat malone 38 7 ,comprehsneive win with coghlan murray and mcgrath impressing

backgreen

what is the situation with shannon /bohs now? do shannon have to win the final game?

FellasFellas

UCD need 4 points from their last two games to make the playoff, and I think whoever wins their respective final game stays up out of Shannon and Bohs.

ormond lad

backgreen wrote: »

what is the situation with shannon /bohs now? do shannon have to win the final game?

Shannon have to get as many match points as Bohs do next Saturday. If they match Bohs they will be in the relegation playoff against UCD or Trinity which most likely will be UCD

Digifriendly

Saw Dungannon beat Belfast Harlequins 16-10 in 1B. It was heart stopping stuff in last few minutes as Dungannon defended their line with 13 on the field courtesy of 2 yellow cards. Bruff's and Ballymena's defeats mean Dungannon stay up and Bruff and Ballymena go down. Dungannon recovered well after heavy drubbing to UCD just a few weeks ago and they were probably favourites for the drop then.

the perfect ten

I didn't think there was a play-off between the third placed team in 2A, i.e. Banbridge, and the third from bottom in 1B?

ormond lad

the perfect ten wrote: »

I didn't think there was a play-off between the third placed team in 2A, i.e. Banbridge, and the third from bottom in 1B?

yep. your right, my mistake. Banbridge not in any playoff

ormond lad

Shannon beat Lansdowne 38-19 and will face UCD in playoff to decide place in 1A next season while Bohs relegated after a 35-0 win over Con which just was not enough on the day.

Richmond are back in the senior ranks for the first time since 1999 after a 26-23 win against Clonakilty in West Cork this afternoon while Naas will replace Greystones in division 2A after they won 44-23 in the Wicklow venue in the 2A/2B playoff.

phog

ormond lad wrote: »

Shannon beat Lansdowne 38-19 and will face UCD in playoff to decide place in 1A next season while Bohs relegated after a 35-0 win over Con which just was not enough on the day.

Richmond are back in the senior ranks for the first time since 1999 after a 26-23 win against Clonakilty in West Cork this afternoon while Naas will replace Greystones in division 2A after they won 44-23 in the Wicklow venue in the 2A/2B playoff.

I know a few lads involved with Richmond and I'm delighted for them. Pity about Bohs unfortunately it came down to two Limerick clubs to face relegation but glad that Shannon got to the playoff.

siochain

Greystones 23 Naas 44,

Congrats to Naas on promotion to 2a

backgreen

play off shannon v ucd sat week

FellasFellas

backgreen wrote: »

play off shannon v ucd sat week

Where is that match?

ormond lad

FellasFellas wrote: »

Where is that match?

Limerick. All playoffs are In venue of team in higher division.

Digifriendly

Ballynahinch promoted to top division of AIL for first time after 41-8 drubbing of Buccaneers in 1B while Dungannon thumped already doomed Bruff 74-12 and UCD virtually clinched promotion playoff winning at Ballymena 40-10.
BTW theoretically Dublin University could still catch UCD (highly unlikely due to points difference) but promotion/relegation play off with Shannon surely won't be confirmed until after final set of fixtures in 1B next Saturday.

backgreen

rumour has it JJ going to lansdowne next season..silly season starts early

CIARAN_BOYLE

backgreen wrote: »

rumour has it JJ going to lansdowne next season..silly season starts early

I really doubt it. I know that he is looking for a new AIL club. With Bohs going down and if he doesn't move up the pecking order in Munster he wants an AIL division 1A club. That I've seen from people I trust.

Also from people I trust on a few forums is that Lansdowne are looking for a new 10. With Ronaldson going west and getting a pro deal he won't be available as much.

The rumours that I've seen are all people adding two and two together and getting 5. JJ Hanrahan will not join a dublin club while playing for Munster.

Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny

I wouldn't be so hasty to dismiss the thought of JJ playing in Dublin. Cian Aherne does it from Limerick! He'll want to play 1A if not bumped up the pecking order and with possibly only 2 limerick teams there it wouldn't be too surprising if he ventured from Limerick, Cons spring to mind.....Rumours a plenty flying around and Season isn't even over.

Have heard that Richmond are looking to bring back any player with a tie to the club previously since promoted. YM losing a few, Bohs losing a load! Garryowen losing connacht lads Anderson and Jarvis and Hircock + Scanlon gone so a lot of rebuilding to do!

backgreen

i don't think shannon will go down and with castleisland's links to shannon could be a 10 spot there?

ormond lad

backgreen wrote: »

rumour has it JJ going to lansdowne next season..silly season starts early

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I really doubt it. I know that he is looking for a new AIL club. With Bohs going down and if he doesn't move up the pecking order in Munster he wants an AIL division 1A club. That I've seen from people I trust.

Also from people I trust on a few forums is that Lansdowne are looking for a new 10. With Ronaldson going west and getting a pro deal he won't be available as much.

The rumours that I've seen are all people adding two and two together and getting 5. JJ Hanrahan will not join a dublin club while playing for Munster.

Exactly. JJ will not move to a Dublin club if on a munster contract and considering he is still prob in college in Limerick.

Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny wrote: »

I wouldn't be so hasty to dismiss the thought of JJ playing in Dublin. Cian Aherne does it from Limerick! He'll want to play 1A if not bumped up the pecking order and with possibly only 2 limerick teams there it wouldn't be too surprising if he ventured from Limerick, Cons spring to mind.....Rumours a plenty flying around and Season isn't even over.

Have heard that Richmond are looking to bring back any player with a tie to the club previously since promoted. YM losing a few, Bohs losing a load! Garryowen losing connacht lads Anderson and Jarvis and Hircock + Scanlon gone so a lot of rebuilding to do!

Richmond if they do get a few back will really help them in 2B. Will be interesting if they do get some players back

backgreen wrote: »

i don't think shannon will go down and with castleisland's links to shannon could be a 10 spot there?

I cant see Shannon beating UCD.
Don't see castleisland links playing any role. Who from 'island would you see moving in that case

Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny

Think Richmond will do well irregardless, as long as they don't lose anyone like Kelliher.

Can't see UCD losing this, only thing i was thinking is that a possible clash with Exams could effect UCD

bamboozle

backgreen wrote: »

rumour has it JJ going to lansdowne next season..silly season starts early

Not a chance of this happening going on the basis Munster were adamant Barry O Mahoney had to switch to a munster club last season if he wanted a munster contract and Barry was keen to stay with Clontarf.

Wouldnt be surprised if Cathal Marsh went from Trinity to Lansdowne.

backgreen

I cant see Shannon beating UCD.
Don't see castleisland links playing any role. Who from 'island would you see moving in that case[/QUOTE]
nobody gave them a chance of surviving pre-xmas,nobody gave them much chance of a win/bonus v lansdowne last week...spread your bet

ormond lad

Good win for Con in Bateman Cup final against Marys today. 22-13 win for cork men
http://www.irishrugby.ie/rugby/29018.php

All divisions in the league have been completed following todays last round of Division 1B games except for the playoff between Shannon and UCD which will decide the last place in Divisions 1A and 1B next season

Below is a small round up of each division and the line-up for each division next season.
1A
champions: Lansdowne
runners up: Garryowen
relegation playoff: Shannon
relegated: UL Bohs

1B
champions: Ballynahinch
promotion playoff: UCD
relegated: Ballymena, Bruff

2A
champions: Terenure
promoted: Corinthians
relegated: Midleton, DLSP and Greystones

2B
champions: Rainey Old Boys
promoted: NUIM Barnhall and Naas
relegated: Clonakilty and Connemara

Tullamore promoted as round robin champions
Richmond beat Clonakilty to decide final place in 2B

Next seasons full list of teams and the divisions
1A
Lansdowne, Garryowen, Clontarf, Cork Con, Dolphin, Young Munster, Old Belvedere, St Marys, Ballynahinch, UCD/Shannon

1B
UL Bohs, UCD/Shannon, Trinity, Buccaneers, Malone, Belfast Harlequins, Blackrock College, Dungannon, Terenure, Corinthians

2A
Ballymena, Bruff, Banbridge, City of Derry, UCC, Galwegians, Cashel, Old Wesley, Bective Rangers, Seapoint, Queens University, Old Crescent, Highfield, Rainey Old Boys, NUIM Barnhall, Naas,

2B
Midleton, DLSP, Greystones, Nenagh, Boyne, Armagh, Skerries, Navan, Sligo, Suttonians, Instonians, Thomond, Ards, Sundays Well, Tullamore, Richmond

Digifriendly

24-19 was Bateman cup final score. I was at Stevenson Park to see Ballynahinch beat Dungannon 22-12 in a feisty 1B encounter with just pride at stake. Will be interesting to see how the Co. Down side go next season in their first experience of top flight rugby.

shaungil

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/irfu-moves-to-end-pay-for-play-culture-in-club-game-1.1378095

So no more payments to players in club rugby.

Steps carefully away.......

backgreen

shaungil wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/irfu-moves-to-end-pay-for-play-culture-in-club-game-1.1378095

So no more payments to players in club rugby.

Steps carefully away.......

academic scholarships are outside the remit of the IRFU..hum...

lurtz

makes for a very interesting read

Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny

D-Day for Shannon, Huge Day for UCD. If weather is good UCD win, despite no Luke McGrath think they'll have more than enough if Leavy, Gilsenan, Coughlan, Thornbury etc..... are playing! Will have huge repercussions if they lose i think, many lads will interest LAnsdowne, Tarf, Belvo and Marys should they stay 1B again

FellasFellas

Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny wrote: »

D-Day for Shannon, Huge Day for UCD. If weather is good UCD win, despite no Luke McGrath think they'll have more than enough if Leavy, Gilsenan, Coughlan, Thornbury etc..... are playing! Will have huge repercussions if they lose i think, many lads will interest LAnsdowne, Tarf, Belvo and Marys should they stay 1B again

Leavy and Thornbury aren't playing, I did hear that Bobby Holland is playing, I think.

FellasFellas

Shannon currently losing 16-0.

Malmedicine

any more updates???

Hype710

37-0 to UCD.

Malmedicine

Noice come on Collidge

FellasFellas

Barry Daly with two and Danny Kenny and james Tracey with an intercept each apparently.

FellasFellas

Full time, 0-42 UCD.

CGD

42-0

Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny

Down Shannon go, they need to bounce straight back or else they could be in a downward spiral and may continue to fall. Say the club sharks in Limerick are sniffing round for players already! Duncan Casey move to a 1A side like JJ is gonna have to??

UCD hold onto lads or will they still struggle to keep similar side? Opinions?