It's great to be unemployed...

Gurgle

Kinski wrote: »

if there is some good social or economic reason for this work to be done, then someone would be being paid to do it already.

Paid for with what?
The only paid community work getting done is the absolute rock bottom basics, and even then its getting done 3 years after its absolutely needed.

Every school, playground, community hall, retirement home etc etc could do with some TLC.

Kinski wrote: »

As for a way of getting the hardcore unemployed doing something productive, I know someone who works in a dole office in Dublin. Many of the long-term unemployed he deals with (not those made redundant as a result of the recent downturn) refer to the dole as their "wages." I see some of these guys drinking their "wages" in the park near my house almost every day. Tbh, I don't hold out much hope that making them do anything in the community is going to have much benefit.

There are people who are just unwilling and / or incapable of doing anything for anyone (even for themselves) ever.
Have them push a turbine and pay them by the kilowatt?

Markcheese

Gurgle wrote: »

Kinski wrote: »

if there is some good social or economic reason for this work to be done, then someone would be being paid to do it already.

Paid for with what?
The only paid community work getting done is the absolute rock bottom basics, and even then its getting done 3 years after its absolutely needed.

Every school, playground, community hall, retirement home etc etc could do with some TLC.

Kinski wrote: »

As for a way of getting the hardcore unemployed doing something productive, I know someone who works in a dole office in Dublin. Many of the long-term unemployed he deals with (not those made redundant as a result of the recent downturn) refer to the dole as their "wages." I see some of these guys drinking their "wages" in the park near my house almost every day. Tbh, I don't hold out much hope that making them do anything in the community is going to have much benefit.

There are people who are just unwilling and / or incapable of doing anything for anyone (even for themselves) ever.
Have them push a turbine and pay them by the kilowatt?

Wouldn't have thought of a turbine and they'd probably have to do way more than 40 hours to make anysort of drinking money...... How bout rock breaking in special camps... I can think of a few candidates...

secretambition

ChRoMe wrote: »

Comparing apples and bowling balls tbh.

What a well explained rebuttal of my point.

sarumite

secretambition wrote: »

What a well explained rebuttal of my point.

I wouldn't say it was well explained, but it certainly was apt.

secretambition

sarumite wrote: »

I wouldn't say it was well explained, but it certainly was apt.

So you won't have a bash at explaining it either then?

sarumite

secretambition wrote: »

So you won't have a bash at explaining it either then?

Briefly, since I thought it was self explanatory. There are very few similarities between an apple and a bowling ball. Comparing the two seems somewhat strange. The same could be said of your comparison, where there was a tenuous link at best.

secretambition

sarumite wrote: »

Briefly, since I thought it was self explanatory. There are very few similarities between an apple and a bowling ball. Comparing the two seems somewhat strange. The same could be said of your comparison, where there was a tenuous link at best.

Taking precautions against people cheating the dole system does not imply that everyone does it.

Taking precautions against people drinking and driving does not imply that everyone does it.

I've found a clear similarlity.

K-9

Thread seems to be descending to sniping and one liners. Seems to have run its course and there's another thread active about Welfare.