JRPG general discussion

Xenji

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

You getting it from vgp?

Went with the Game Collection this time, had a discount code and ended up being around E40.

Retr0gamer

I guess I better pick up DQ in the hopes it means we get DQ7 remake.

Ramza wrote: »

Tales of Zestiria apparently is 30fps on both PC and console, strange. I'm pretty sure Vesperia was 60 and maybe even Abyss? I could be completely wrong.

While I have no intention of sparking off a 30FPS vs 60FPS flame war, I wonder what their motive was to not make it 60. Given current gen hardware etc I can't see why not. Battles and the like would have felt and looked great and more fluid with 60. Maybe it's at 30 for a technical reason?

It's just silly japanese developers tying game mechanics to the framerate. Going to sixty would mean lots of stuff gets broken and they can't be arsed to fix it. They really need to learn to make engines that don't rely on framerate to work.

Ramza

Anyone having issues with getting Zestiria working w/ PSN right now? I pre-ordered ages ago and stuck the 60 in my wallet just ten minutes ago but it's still locked in my home menu. When I try to purchase it, I get an error message. Anyway to force PSN to take the money? Even the game's page on the store has no 'add to cart" option so I assume it just hasn't become available yet :o

johnny_ultimate

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I guess I better pick up DQ in the hopes it means we get DQ7 remake.

No, it just means we're going to get another shedload of mindless Dynasty Warriors spin-offs :pac:

sniper_samurai

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I guess I better pick up DQ in the hopes it means we get DQ7 remake.



It's just silly japanese developers tying game mechanics to the framerate. Going to sixty would mean lots of stuff gets broken and they can't be arsed to fix it. They really need to learn to make engines that don't rely on framerate to work.

Indeed, same thing happened with Dark Souls 2. From Software tied the weapon durabiltiy to the framerate so in the 60fps PC version the weapons deteriorated much quicker. This wasn't fixed for a year i.e. until it became a major problem with the XB1 and PS4 versions also being 60fps.

Sieghardt

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

No, it just means we're going to get another shedload of mindless Dynasty Warriors spin-offs :pac:

correct, take it from a Gundam fan, no amount of buying Dynasty Warriors Gundam ever factored into our pleas for Extreme Vs

Xenji

Sieghardt wrote: »

correct, take it from a Gundam fan, no amount of buying Dynasty Warriors Gundam ever factored into our pleas for Extreme Vs

Extreme VS Force will have English localization when its released in Asia in December.

Ramza

Zestiria feels good so far, I never played Graces so this kind of battle system is new to me, I like it. I don't know if Graces had the martial artes hierarchy system (kinda like fire emblem with a 3 way hierarchy triangle) thing, but it's a good system, game flows nicely. I can likely see some balance issues arising because you could likely just spam a certain type of attack that counters bosses/big enemies and then keep them trapped forever?

Camera can be super annoying at times though while exploring dungeons etc. Story and characters are of course tropey as hell so far and the game starts off slow and cliche, but its getting going now and having fun. I liked how they handled the difficulty, where raising it will increase drops and gald, but lower exp, so it's a nice tradeoff. Another critique is that the in game tutorial system is very poor. Given that there is a lot of new additions to this game gameplay wise, the game doesn't do a very good job explaining them. Leaving things to trial and error is likely the best way to explore and figure out the system but it still confused me at first. Some gripes here and there but overall enjoying it a lot.

Also they answered my prayers with dual audio, what a godsend. I'm somewhat of a purist and a huge fan of the tales series and much prefer the JP voices, so I was over the moon to see they included both. Anyone else playing?

sniper_samurai

I see GS are up to their usual pricing shenanigans with ToZ. Who in their right mind would pay €80 for a disc copy of a game, especially when the digital is €60 and can be gotten from online retailers for as little as €48 for an EU copy.

Ramza

sniper_samurai wrote: »

I see GS are up to their usual pricing shenanigans with ToZ. Who in their right mind would pay €80 for a disc copy of a game, especially when the digital is €60 and can be gotten from online retailers for as little as €48 for an EU copy.

Yeah it's a joke. I was actually considering paying the extra 20 for the disc + box because I love owning physical copies of RPGs but I wasn't willing to support such nonsense pricing, so feck that. Same goes for most games tbh, I rarely if ever buy games in bricks and mortar these days.

Also what's with Namco Bandai locking out the share option on PS4 with Zestiria? Surely there's a rational reason for this? It's likely to do with the Evangelion DLC and rights etc but I could be wrong. I was looking forward to streaming and making montages with the DVR because I don't own a seperate capture device, so that's a huge bummer

Xenji

sniper_samurai wrote: »

I see GS are up to their usual pricing shenanigans with ToZ. Who in their right mind would pay €80 for a disc copy of a game, especially when the digital is €60 and can be gotten from online retailers for as little as €48 for an EU copy.

I managed to get the collector's edition for E73 online, Gamestop/HMV are a joke, have not bought a game from them in nearly 5 years.

Xenji

It looks like Platinum Games are doing the majority of the Nier sequel, with the exception of Taro Yoko directing and Akihiko Yoshida (Vagrant Story, Tactics Ogre and various FF games) doing character designs.

Also Monolith Soft seem to have got their NX dev kits, they are looking for a lot of new staff for a new Tetsuya Takahashi game.

Sieghardt

Yakuza 5 will get a mid november release
Get your $34 pre-orders in while you can

http://gematsu.com/2015/10/yakuza-5-slated-mid-november-release

Wolverine359

Xenji wrote: »

I managed to get the collector's edition for E73 online, Gamestop/HMV are a joke, have not bought a game from them in nearly 5 years.

Where did you get it for €73?? :eek: anywhere I look it's €149.99, absolutely crazy price, I think I got tales of Xillia 2 with the ludger kresnik figure for under a hundred and that was pushing it.

Xenji

Wolverine359 wrote: »

Where did you get it for €73?? :eek: anywhere I look it's €149.99, absolutely crazy price, I think I got tales of Xillia 2 with the ludger kresnik figure for under a hundred and that was pushing it.

It was on Amazon.de, the seller's store must of been closing, he had a few things going cheap.

Varik

Watched a first 15 minutes video and Got a serious case of deja vu from the new tales game before i realised there was an anime last Christmas.

Sieghardt

Sega trademarked Valkyria of the Blue Revolution in japan

please be a real game and not some mobile bull****

Retr0gamer

Awesome news yesterday. The Trails in the Sky sequel finally has a release date and it's very close! October 29th!

Xenji

NieR Sequel Officially named, "NieR Automata".

As Famitsu leaks come in, the next NieR game is reportedly title as “NieR Automata”. Nier Automata takes place on the devasted planet earth, and a battle between Androids created by humans, against the “Machine organisms” sent by the enemies of mankind.

In the upcoming Famitsu magazine, it apparently shows the characters and setting by Akihiko Yoshida. A character who appears to be the protagonist is called “Yorha #2 Type B” and holds both a sword and great sword. Long ranged attacks are made possible by a system called “pods”.

More information is due to come during Paris Games Week this week.

Xenji

Shu mentioned today in an interview that Sony's first party developers will not be making any JRPGs for the foreseeable future.

Retr0gamer

Xenji wrote: »

Shu mentioned today in an interview that Sony's first party developers will not be making any JRPGs for the foreseeable future.

Awesome! No chance of Legend of Dragoon 2 now!

In fairness Sony RPGs have historically been awful so no big loss. It's not like they don't have third parties like Atlus, Gust and Square filling that void. Sonys first parties have traditionally focused on making more experimental titles or titles to fill gaps in the library and it's here where they are at their best and make their best titles. It gives their consoles a large variety of different kinds of games and let's face it, it's something the PS4 badly needs.

Sieghardt

One of the worst thing in Tales of Xillia was the dull samey fields and caverns
One of the best things in Tales of Zestiria is its fields and caverns.

Good job working on your mistakes, Tales team

Xenji

Sieghardt wrote: »

One of the worst thing in Tales of Xillia was the dull samey fields and caverns
One of the best things in Tales of Zestiria is its fields and caverns.

Good job working on your mistakes, Tales team

Good to know, its sitting looking at me, but have to finish Dragon Quest Heroes first.

Retr0gamer

Tales has just gotten way too safe in recent years. Hard to believe that the series started as having one of the most interesting and innovative battle systems of the time.

Pac1Man

I finished Chrono Trigger a few days ago (on Back to the Future day coincidentally), and loved it. What do I do with my life now?

I'm very new to JRPGs and found CT to be intuitive and noob friendly regarding its battle system, equipment, item list etc.

Can anyone recommend another JRPG to follow on from this? The systems I have available are the PS3, PS4, 3DS & WiiU.

_Godot_

I'd first recommend Radiant Historia, and then:

Dragon Quest V: The Hand of the Heavenly Bride
Dragon Quest VI: Realms of Reverie
Earthbound
Fantasy Life
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo's Dungeon
Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster
Fire Emblem: Awakening
Inazuma Eleven
The Last Story
Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes
Opoona
Pokemon SoulSilver/Black/Black 2
Rune Factory 4
Shin Megami Tensei IV
Solatorobo: Red The Hunter
The World Ends With You
Xenoblade Chronicles

Retr0gamer

Persona 3 and 4 are great to start with as well but prepare for a bit of a challenge.

Pac1Man

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Persona 3 and 4 are great to start with as well but prepare for a bit of a challenge.

Thanks, I've heard great things. A challenge wouldn't be the worst thing now. I was expecting a battle at the end of Chrono Trigger so I did a bit of grinding which was definitely not needed!

Xenji

NieR trailer, it looks really good so far and Platinum are aiming for 60 FPS, 2016 release date also.

What is Nier: Automata?

The original Nier is a very unique action RPG that struck a chord with many passionate gamers when it came out five years ago. The story revolves around the main protagonist Nier as he searches for a cure for his daughter who is infected with the Black Scrawl virus, a seemingly incurable disease.

What is the story in Nier: Automata?

Earth has suddenly been invaded by beings from another planet and mechanical life forms with overwhelming power were used as weapons of war which forced mankind to flee to the moon. In order to take back the earth, a resistance force of android warriors has been created by humanity to fight these invaders.

The world that you see in Nier: Automata is one where androids and mechanized weapons clash in ferocious combat in a barren and deserted wasteland. It’s set after the original game but the story is written in a way which means you don’t have to have played the first one.

Who is the female character in the gameplay trailer?

She’s not actually female, or maybe it’s more accurate to say she’s not actually human. Her name or serial number is 2B and she’s an android. In the world of Nier, there are strict rules meaning this kind of android is not allowed to have emotions. However, each different model has its own quirks and characteristics and 2B has a comparatively cold and level headed personality.

Xenji

We should hopefully see this coming to the west at some point, 60 FPS as well.