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Retr0gamer · 07-12-2014 3:17pm

sniper_samurai wrote:

Value if those old copies are going to take a bit of a nosedive due to the psn release though.

unfortunately digital releases never have an effect on physical copy prices.

Good that it is coming out so more people can play it. It's probably the best RPG on PS1

Sephiroth_dude · 07-12-2014 3:46pm

Watching a lets play of xenosaga

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2014/12/06/replay-xenosaga-episode-one.aspx

I'll never understand why episodes 1 and 3 never got released over here but episode two did :S

sniper_samurai · 07-12-2014 3:50pm

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

Watching a lets play of xenosaga

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2014/12/06/replay-xenosaga-episode-one.aspx

I'll never understand why episodes 1 and 3 never got released over here but episode two did :S

Yeah, bit silly. Have 1 & 3 anyway, still had to dl the first one despite having a legit US copy as my ps2 mod doesn't support dual layer discs

. Ep1 is great, ep3 is a bit of a mess though.

Retr0gamer · 07-12-2014 4:03pm

Thought episode 1 was really bad myself but not s bad as episode 2. I couldn't even finish that one.

Sephiroth_dude · 07-12-2014 5:00pm

sniper_samurai wrote: »

Yeah, bit silly. Have 1 & 3 anyway, still had to dl the first one despite having a legit US copy as my ps2 mod doesn't support dual layer discs . Ep1 is great, ep3 is a bit of a mess though.

Where did you download it from? I wish I'd gotten my ps2 chipped, I could have played all these games then.

sniper_samurai · 07-12-2014 5:31pm

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

Where did you download it from? I wish I'd gotten my ps2 chipped, I could have played all these games then.

Dl'd a compressed single layer version from a site that can't be mentioned here, but there was also a program to split a legit over a 3 backup discs so it could be played(couldn't figure out how to use it with my copy) on a modded ps2. Dual layer PS2 imports were a right pain as most mods couldn't read them as they only supported a max TOC of 4.7gb.

(You don't need to chip a PS2 to play import games, the older big ones could do it with an action replay max and a usb stick without much trouble. Not going to mention the program on the usb or how to use it for obvious reasons.(feel free to remove if inappropriate)).

Retr0gamer · 07-12-2014 6:15pm

I've mine chipped so it reads anything. You can soft mod a PS2 now and boot games from hard disk without opening up the machine. It's highly recommended considering how bad the ps2 laser is.

Sieghardt · 07-12-2014 11:34pm

sniper_samurai wrote: »

FF VII was the biggest troll of the PS Experience presser.

yeah that was an AMAZING level of trolling lol

I might have been annoyed if I wasnt so over the moon about Yakuza 5

Retr0gamer · 08-12-2014 9:37am

It's going to be the crappy pc port as well.

ZiabR · 08-12-2014 9:43am

What were Sony thinking... "Oh I know... our final fantasy games have been getting worse and worse every year, for years... with next years one being about a boyband..." " So lets re-release FF7, but lets make a port of a port because we could not be arsed doing it properly"

No thanks Sony...

Retr0gamer · 08-12-2014 10:31am

Squaresoft (not Sony) release one disappointing Final Fantasy with XIII (and I definitely wouldn't call it bad) and everyone claims their games have been getting worse for ages, ignoring the fact that XIII-2 and XIII-3 are damn fine RPGs.

johnny_ultimate · 08-12-2014 10:36am

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Squaresoft (not Sony) release one disappointing Final Fantasy with XIII (and I definitely wouldn't call it bad)

I wouldn't call it bad either - that's a bit generous

Retr0gamer · 08-12-2014 10:47am

I still don't think it was that bad. It was hard to play in long stretches until you got to pulse but the battle system was the best in years and that soundtrack was great. It didn't lend itself well to being played for stretches of 2 hours, it probably would have worked better as a handheld game.

I've played worse RPGs that get highly praised, such as Ni No Kuni.

Sephiroth_dude · 08-12-2014 12:32pm

I loved 13,thought lightning was an awesome hero,it looked great too.

raze_them_all_ · 08-12-2014 4:50pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Squaresoft (not Sony) release one disappointing Final Fantasy with XIII (and I definitely wouldn't call it bad) and everyone claims their games have been getting worse for ages, ignoring the fact that XIII-2 and XIII-3 are damn fine RPGs.

I genuinely do not know if i played 13-3. Which one is it??

sniper_samurai · 08-12-2014 4:53pm

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

I genuinely do not know if i played 13-3. Which one is it??

Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII. It was released back in February this year.

Sephiroth_dude · 08-12-2014 5:09pm

I actually saw it gamestop for a tenner today , was tempted to get it actually

Retr0gamer · 08-12-2014 5:15pm

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

I actually saw it gamestop for a tenner today , was tempted to get it actually

A tenner? Feck it's 15 in every other Gamestop. Definitely worth buying unles you get annoyed by games with time limits that ensure you can't get everything on your first go.

super_furry · 08-12-2014 5:16pm

Suikdoden 1 and 2 have been confirmed by Konami for a January release in Europe on PSN. Nice to see, especially since I sold off my disc copies during a summer clear-out.

Sephiroth_dude · 08-12-2014 5:20pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

A tenner? Feck it's 15 in every other Gamestop. Definitely worth buying unles you get annoyed by games with time limits that ensure you can't get everything on your first go.

I should have got it actually,it was on sale

Sephiroth_dude · 08-12-2014 5:20pm

super_furry wrote: »

Suikdoden 1 and 2 have been confirmed by Konami for a January release in Europe on PSN. Nice to see, especially since I sold off my disc copies during a summer clear-out.

If you dont mind me asking did ya get much for them?

super_furry · 08-12-2014 5:34pm

Sold the two of them together for €140 but the cover and manual of Suikoden was in pretty poor condition.

Sephiroth_dude · 08-12-2014 5:36pm

super_furry wrote: »

Sold the two of them together for €140 but the cover and manual of Suikoden was in pretty poor condition.

That's not a bad price actually

Retr0gamer · 08-12-2014 5:47pm

super_furry wrote: »

Suikdoden 1 and 2 have been confirmed by Konami for a January release in Europe on PSN. Nice to see, especially since I sold off my disc copies during a summer clear-out.

Suikoden 1 and 2 are kind of weird to recommend. I'd normally say get the US version always since it's far superior. However the translation of Suikoden 2 is really poor for the US version, in one case an entire town is left untranslated (the translation was carried out in just 2 weeks). The European version has a much better translation.

Also there's no point getting Suikoden 1 from the US store and 2 from the EU one since you can port a save to Suikoden 2 but a US saev won't work on a EU copy.

This is one of the very rare occasions I'd recommend the EU version over the US one. Despite the borders mesing up the aspect ratio and the slower gameplay it's better to get the better translation.

sniper_samurai · 08-12-2014 5:51pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Suikoden 1 and 2 are kind of weird to recommend. I'd normally say get the US version always since it's far superior. However the translation of Suikoden 2 is really poor for the US version, in one case an entire town is left untranslated (the translation was carried out in just 2 weeks). The European version has a much better translation.

Also there's no point getting Suikoden 1 from the US store and 2 from the EU one since you can port a save to Suikoden 2 but a US saev won't work on a EU copy.

This is one of the very rare occasions I'd recommend the EU version over the US one. Despite the borders mesing up the aspect ratio and the slower gameplay it's better to get the better translation.

In all honesty its probably the US version that gets released here. I would still recommend waiting for the EU release if you have a vita with an EU account on it. Will probably wait now myself.

Retr0gamer · 08-12-2014 6:37pm

sniper_samurai wrote: »

In all honesty its probably the US version that gets released here. I would still recommend waiting for the EU release if you have a vita with an EU account on it. Will probably wait now myself.

The bugginess of the US version was what kept the game delayed for so long, the EU version is a lot more stable. I've only seen the Resident Evils released here as the US versions, I wish more companies would do that because it's a joke playing the terrible EU versions in this day and age.

Sieghardt · 08-12-2014 6:54pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Squaresoft (not Sony) release one disappointing Final Fantasy with XIII (and I definitely wouldn't call it bad) and everyone claims their games have been getting worse for ages, ignoring the fact that XIII-2 and XIII-3 are damn fine RPGs.

because they didnt release a lot else?
I wouldnt be as annoyed with 13 if I got a good front mission, instead of the "evolved" garbage

Parasite eve 3 was terrible too and Dragon Quest 10 is a: a weak mmo and b: not even available in english
They're probably also getting a bit of Flak for how bad Star Ocean 4 was despite that being tri ace's fault

Retr0gamer · 08-12-2014 7:28pm

Ah now I thought Third Birthday was fun once you ignored the story and how they managed to moe-ify Aya Brea. You're kind of selectively looking at the bad stuff as well and not at the good, I've already mentioned the FFXIII sequels. They managed to turn around FF14 from their biggest financial disaster ever to one of the best MMO's around. Their collaborations for handheld games produced some amazing games such as Bravel Default. They maanged to make a Kingdom Hearts game that didn't suck absolute balls with Birth by Sleep which also brings up how they are bringing new talent up through the studio. They also funded the excellent Nier and took a chance on Matsuno again with Tactics Ogre remake. Their Dragon Quest releases have been amazing as well and Squaresofts only crime is not bringing over DQ7 and the Monsters remakes, that really is the only thing they have done that is heinous. Even their mobile releases have produced some gold with Chaos Rings.

It really isn't all that bad and the whole Square Eix have gone to the pits thing just reeks of Hyperbole when you actually examine their output.

richymcdermott · 08-12-2014 11:43pm

final fantasy a realm reborn is an amazing MMO and I dont like the genre that much but my gawd it took incredible forces outside this world to remove me from that game in the first week of playing

**** the subscription though , really dont wanna keep forking out money to play it , but I miss it already ;_;

megaten · 10-12-2014 4:08pm

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=949072

Apparently NIS need the next Disgaea to sell 150k in Japan to stay in business. Welp.

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