Provincial Schools thread 2012-2013 *MOD WARNING POST 1*

ormond lad

CGD wrote: »

Ok thanks! Some great talent on display aroundthe provinces during the year and would expect both Irish teams to do fairly well. Who is coaching the schools & 19's?

Head coach of the 18 schools is Noel McNamara, clongowes.
Backs coach of the schools side is Rockwell coach Mark Butler

Dont know who the 19s coaches are

lurtz

CGD wrote: »

Wouldn't have Schmidt, Jager or Leavy in the squad myself only saw Lyons yesterday and he looked good but suprised there is no McKeown or Mckeever. Sean O'Brien and Ross Molony musn't be available either or surely they would be included

McKeon is under 19

lurtz

19s coaches are probably Carolan,Duffy,Dempsey,Fogarty or Mitchell

lurtz

Matthew Gilsenan called in to replace Adam Leavy in the 18s

ormond lad

Irish squad will be up on the irish website sometime this afternoon

The Georgia side that Ireland play friday lost to Englands u17 side in the last few days.
Anyone know how many games will be televised in this years competition

lurtz

might be on eurosport like in 2011,or streamed like last year

Quint2010

Brewer, Dardis, Roche and Thornton were the Terenure players who made the squad

ormond lad

English squad for championship been named.
http://www.rfu.com/news/2013/march/news-articles/200313_fira_squad


Irish squad to be hopefully announced today

lurtz

Ireland U-18 Schools Squad to compete in the FIRA/AER Justin Bridou U-18 European Championship:

Forwards (14):
Oisin Heffernan (CC Roscrea)
Michael Lagan (Methodist College)
Sean McNulty (Rockwell College)
Andrew Roche (Terenure College)
Oliver Jager (Blackrock College)
Jeremy Loughman (Blackrock College)
David O'Connor(Blackrock College)
Alexander Thompson (Methodist College)
James Ryan (St.Michael's College)
Joshua Murphy (St. Michaels College)
Rory Moloney (CC Roscrea)
Patrick Thornton (Terenure College)
Nick Timoney (Blackrock College)
James Gallagher (Methodist College)

Backs (12):
Nick McCarthy (St. Michaels College)
Charlie Rock (Blackrock College)
Ross Byrne (St.Michaels College)
Ciaran Gaffney (CC Roscrea)
Matthew Gilsenan (St.Michaels College)
Greg O'Shea (Crescent Comprehensive)
Fergal Cleary (Clongowes Wood College)
Harrison Brewer (Terenure College)
Michael Courtney (CBC Monkstown)
Cormac Brennan (CC Roscrea)
Billy Dardis (Terenure College)
Jack Owens (Campbell College)

Management:
Coach - Noel McNamara
Manager - John McKinney
Backs Coach - Mark Butler
Forwards Coach - Brian Robinson
Baggage master - John Moran
Doctor - Prof. John Ryan
Video Analyst - Brett Igoe
Physiotherapist - David Lyons
Strength & Conditioning Coach - Chris Shields

Hagz

Fair play to Gaffney and Loughman. Took their opportunity in the cup to prove themselves.

Jackobyte

No Gearoid Lyons after his immense kicking display in the Munster final is surprising.

its_phil

Jackobyte wrote: »

No Gearoid Lyons after his immense kicking display in the Munster final is surprising.

I think he is 19s. Ormond would have a better idea.

Jackobyte

its_phil wrote: »

I think he is 19s. Ormond would have a better idea.

Have it in my head he was 1995. Not sure when exactly the cut off is, but would have thought all 1995 players would have been eligible.

its_phil

Sean O'Brien and Jacob Walsh from Roscrea in the Ireland 19's squad

ormond lad

Jackobyte wrote: »

No Gearoid Lyons after his immense kicking display in the Munster final is surprising.

its_phil wrote: »

I think he is 19s. Ormond would have a better idea.

He is eligible for 18s.

Jackobyte wrote: »

Have it in my head he was 1995. Not sure when exactly the cut off is, but would have thought all 1995 players would have been eligible.

cut off is 1/1/95 as its 18s. Cup was 1/1/94 as it is 19s
Lyons is a 95 and just wasnt picked. All 95s are eligible

opinionatedfan

no Josh Fullerton is interesting, maybe he is injured.

LH prop
Jeremy Loughman (Blackrock College)
Michael Lagan (Methodist College)

Hooker
Sean McNulty (Rockwell College)
Andrew Roche (Terenure College)

TH prop
Oisin Heffernan (CC Roscrea)
Oliver Jager (Blackrock College)

Lock
David O'Connor(Blackrock College)
Alexander Thompson (Methodist College)
James Ryan (St.Michael's College)

Backrow
Joshua Murphy (St. Michaels College)
Rory Moloney (CC Roscrea)
Patrick Thornton (Terenure College)
Nick Timoney (Blackrock College)
James Gallagher (Methodist College)

Scrumhalf
Nick McCarthy (St. Michaels College)
Charlie Rock (Blackrock College)

Outhalf
Ross Byrne (St.Michaels College)
Ciaran Gaffney (CC Roscrea)

Centre
Matthew Gilsenan (St.Michaels College)
Fergal Cleary (Clongowes Wood College)
Harrison Brewer (Terenure College)

Back 3
Michael Courtney (CBC Monkstown)
Greg O'Shea (Crescent Comprehensive)
Cormac Brennan (CC Roscrea)
Billy Dardis (Terenure College)
Jack Owens (Campbell College)

Quint2010

opinionatedfan wrote: »

no Josh Fullerton is interesting, maybe he is injured.

LH prop
Jeremy Loughman (Blackrock College)
Michael Lagan (Methodist College)

Hooker
Sean McNulty (Rockwell College)
Andrew Roche (Terenure College)

TH prop
Oisin Heffernan (CC Roscrea)
Oliver Jager (Blackrock College)

Lock
David O'Connor(Blackrock College)
Alexander Thompson (Methodist College)
James Ryan (St.Michael's College)

Backrow
Joshua Murphy (St. Michaels College)
Rory Moloney (CC Roscrea)
Patrick Thornton (Terenure College)
Nick Timoney (Blackrock College)
James Gallagher (Methodist College)

Scrumhalf
Nick McCarthy (St. Michaels College)
Charlie Rock (Blackrock College)

Outhalf
Ross Byrne (St.Michaels College)
Ciaran Gaffney (CC Roscrea)

Centre
Matthew Gilsenan (St.Michaels College)
Fergal Cleary (Clongowes Wood College)
Harrison Brewer (Terenure College)

Back 3
Michael Courtney (CBC Monkstown)
Greg O'Shea (Crescent Comprehensive)
Cormac Brennan (CC Roscrea)
Billy Dardis (Terenure College)
Jack Owens (Campbell College)

Think the strongest team will be:
Dardis
Brennan
Cleary
Brewer
O'Shea
Byrne
Rock
Loughman
Mcnulty
Heffernan
Ryan
O'Connor
Murphy
Moloney
Timoney

opinionatedfan

I'd go with:

1. Langan
2. McNulty
3. Heffernan
4. O'Connor
5. Ryan
6. Murphy
7. Moloney
8. Timoney
9. Rock
10. Byrne
11. O'Shea
12. Brewer
13. Cleary
14. Owens
15. Dardis

Tox56

lurtz wrote: »

Ireland U-18 Schools Squad to compete in the FIRA/AER Justin Bridou U-18 European Championship:

Forwards (14):
Oisin Heffernan (CC Roscrea)
Michael Lagan (Methodist College)
Sean McNulty (Rockwell College)
Andrew Roche (Terenure College)
Oliver Jager (Blackrock College)
Jeremy Loughman (Blackrock College)
David O'Connor(Blackrock College)
Alexander Thompson (Methodist College)
James Ryan (St.Michael's College)
Joshua Murphy (St. Michaels College)
Rory Moloney (CC Roscrea)
Patrick Thornton (Terenure College)
Nick Timoney (Blackrock College)
James Gallagher (Methodist College)

Backs (12):
Nick McCarthy (St. Michaels College)
Charlie Rock (Blackrock College)
Ross Byrne (St.Michaels College)
Ciaran Gaffney (CC Roscrea)
Matthew Gilsenan (St.Michaels College)
Greg O'Shea (Crescent Comprehensive)
Fergal Cleary (Clongowes Wood College)
Harrison Brewer (Terenure College)
Michael Courtney (CBC Monkstown)
Cormac Brennan (CC Roscrea)
Billy Dardis (Terenure College)
Jack Owens (Campbell College)

Management:
Coach - Noel McNamara
Manager - John McKinney
Backs Coach - Mark Butler
Forwards Coach - Brian Robinson
Baggage master - John Moran
Doctor - Prof. John Ryan
Video Analyst - Brett Igoe
Physiotherapist - David Lyons
Strength & Conditioning Coach - Chris Shields

EDIT: My mistake

Is James Ryan the 4th year second row??

opinionatedfan

Tox56 wrote: »

EDIT: My mistake

Is James Ryan the 4th year second row??

yeah.

ormond lad

Next septembers Munster u19s and 20s which will contain quite a few players who will have played senior cup this year(as well as youths rugby) have games coming up in the next week as prep for this summers training camp in Rockwell.
The 19s play Connacht in Ennis next wednesday while the 20s are due to play Young Munsters u21s in Tom Clifford Park park next wednesday

opinionatedfan

who are the best guys u20 next season?

O'Donoghue and Madigan right? anyone else?

ormond lad

opinionatedfan wrote: »

who are the best guys u20 next season?

O'Donoghue and Madigan right? anyone else?

For Munster those 2 as well as Parata the former sundays well munster youth and Rockwell outhalf-centre,
Jack Dineen the Crescent Comp back row, Sonny Dwyer rockwell but from thurles backrow will all be strong with a handful of others who i think may make it but havent really been involved in any interpro set up to date.

RobbieRuns

Is Parata playing with Connacht next year, like he did last year?

mrpdap

ormond lad wrote: »

For Munster those 2 as well as Parata the former sundays well munster youth and Rockwell outhalf-centre,
Jack Dineen the Crescent Comp back row, Sonny Dwyer rockwell but from thurles backrow will all be strong with a handful of others who i think may make it but havent really been involved in any interpro set up to date.

When will the squads be announced?

ormond lad

RobbieRuns wrote: »

Is Parata playing with Connacht next year, like he did last year?

No fairly sure he will be back with Munster

mrpdap wrote: »

When will the squads be announced?

u20?
sometime in may if at all. Might not be announced until the summer


Irish 19s play a Leinster side on sunday in merrion road

clubrug

ormond lad wrote: »

For Munster those 2 as well as Parata the former sundays well munster youth and Rockwell outhalf-centre,
Jack Dineen the Crescent Comp back row, Sonny Dwyer rockwell but from thurles backrow will all be strong with a handful of others who i think may make it but havent really been involved in any interpro set up to date.

Fierce 'hype' around Rory Parata, are the coaches influenced by reputations? Can't see him near centres munster had last year. Jack Dineen, Sonny Dwyer and Jack O' Donoughue all played 8 for munster, won't regig to fit and start them all, should be on squad but competitive area and Diarmuid Dee had a great interpro at 6 last year, super munster cup final, that spot is his to loose. David Johnson is probably the best prospect of the lot, in my opinion, really hope he makes progress in rugby, excellent player.

Very rare you see lads who haven't been involved in any interpro set up break in at 20s, but would be good to see. Are there many munster lads on Ireland 19s squad?

ormond lad

clubrug wrote: »

Fierce 'hype' around Rory Parata, are the coaches influenced by reputations? Can't see him near centres munster had last year. Jack Dineen, Sonny Dwyer and Jack O' Donoughue all played 8 for munster, won't regig to fit and start them all, should be on squad but competitive area and Diarmuid Dee had a great interpro at 6 last year, super munster cup final, that spot is his to lose. David Johnson is probably the best prospect of the lot, in my opinion, really hope he makes progress in rugby, excellent player.

Very rare you see lads who haven't been involved in any interpro set up break in at 20s, but would be good to see. Are there many munster lads on Ireland 19s squad?

Well from what ive seen of him. Parata is top class and any talk is well deserved. I def see Parata making the Munster 20s in september.
Would def have him ahead of the likes of Midleton Colleges Hodgson who started 1/2 games in the centre.
Sonny played a lot underage at 7 so could def be starting with Jack O at 8.
Dont think Johnson is the best of the lot. Would rate Parata, Jack O ahead of him.
There is a good enough number from Munster in the 19s squad afaik. Fairly sure there is at least 7/8 from Munster

lurtz

ormond lad wrote: »

No fairly sure he will be back with Munster

u20?
sometime in may if at all. Might not be announced until the summer


Irish 19s play a Leinster side on sunday in merrion road

howd you know this? and you know a time?

clubrug

Rory Parata is a fine player, don't get me wrong and he has progressed greatly since involvement in munster youths, probably didn't get fair crack with them and grew with Connacht, no doubt, wonder would that influence him?

Plenty of fine rugby players out there, at this time of year people focus on performances in senior cup, rightly or wrongly, long time between now and september and things change, 20s will probably be dominated by school and ex school players, however any 'screamers' from the clubs?