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Provincial Schools thread 2012-2013 *MOD WARNING POST 1*

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    #392
    ormond lad
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    charliemant wrote: »
    Good munster jct teams???
    Castletroy are meant to be good this year i believe. Junior much more difficult to predict than senior as at senior level you can look to how schools did at junior level and how many each school had on the interpro sides.
    Ard Scoil have lost the last 2 finals so this year could be their year to get the trophy


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    #393
    ormond lad
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    Connacht senior cup draw.
    games start january 14th
    Pool 1
    Marist College
    Colaiste Iognaid
    Rice College

    Pool 2
    Sligo Grammar School
    Garbally College
    The Bish

    Junior cup draw and senior/junior development draws available http://www.sportsmanager.ie/cake/rugby/connacht/league/59833/pool2


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    #394
    ormond lad
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    fixtures between now and new years
    Friday
    Ard Scoil Ris v Castleknock
    Saturday
    PBC Cork v Terenure
    Ireland u19 v Ireland u19.
    Sunday
    Blackrock v St Munchins
    Irish Youths v Irish Schools. Coolmine rfc 12.30pm

    can connacht thread be merged into this thread?


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    #395
    yougottagoboy
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    ormond lad wrote: »
    fixtures between now and new years
    Friday
    Ard Scoil Ris v Castleknock
    Saturday
    PBC Cork v Terenure
    Ireland u19 v Ireland u19.
    Sunday
    Blackrock v St Munchins
    Irish Youths v Irish Schools. Coolmine rfc 12.30pm

    can connacht thread be merged into this thread?

    what you mean by this Ormond lad?


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    #396
    ormond lad
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    yougottagoboy wrote: »
    what you mean by this Ormond lad?
    Irish management probably want to look at 40 or so players before they cut the squad for the training camps in january and the games in march/april. The 18s schools can play the youths while the 20s are playing provincial development squads so who can the 19s play??

    Munster Senior Cup final qualifier game between Bandon Grammer and Midleton College is due to be played january 9th in PBC Corks ground in Wilton.


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    #397
    yougottagoboy
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    ormond lad wrote: »
    Irish management probably want to look at 40 or so players before they cut the squad for the training camps in january and the games in march/april. The 18s schools can play the youths while the 20s are playing provincial development squads so who can the 19s play??

    Munster Senior Cup final qualifier game between Bandon Grammer and Midleton College is due to be played january 9th in PBC Corks ground in Wilton.

    any idea when or where the 19s trial is on?


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    #398
    ormond lad
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    yougottagoboy wrote: »
    any idea when or where the 19s trial is on?
    tomorrow 2.15pm but i dont know where


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    #399
    charliemant
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    Which would be easier to make munster u18 schools or clubs???....they might both be good but higher standard


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    #400
    yougottagoboy
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    charliemant wrote: »
    Which would be easier to make munster u18 schools or clubs???....they might both be good but higher standard

    not trying to sound disparaging but munster clubs would be an easier team to make,much more players going for the schools team and coming from a higher standard of rugby


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    #401
    ormond lad
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    charliemant wrote: »
    Which would be easier to make munster u18 schools or clubs???....they might both be good but higher standard
    Dont really know. To make the youths you generally have to be starring at 15s/17s and get picked for your regions u17 side, perform well on that side to get picked for the provincial side while to make the munster schools side you have to make your school side at junior cup, play bowen shield, do well on that side maybe make your senior cup team and get selected for munster then.
    Both are equal enough thesedays. Munster schools side regularly have several players each september that were youths until shortly before the interpros
    There would be more players going for the youths side.


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    #402
    charliemant
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    Would clubs get the same perks as schools like gear ,facilities coaches?


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    #403
    ormond lad
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    charliemant wrote: »
    Would clubs get the same perks as schools like gear ,facilities coaches?
    At provincial level yes.
    Some clubs get same perks in terms of gear but many dont. All schools would have 4/5 coaches, players on gym programmes etc that clubs wouldnt really have.


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    #404
    charliemant
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    ormond lad wrote: »
    At provincial level yes.
    Some clubs get same perks in terms of gear but many dont. All schools would have 4/5 coaches, players on gym programmes etc that clubs wouldnt really have.
    What about munster level


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    #405
    ormond lad
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    charliemant wrote: »
    What about munster level
    what do you mean by "munster level"?


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    #406
    charliemant
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    ormond lad wrote: »
    what do you mean by "munster level"?
    Munster schools or club teams


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    #407
    ormond lad
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    Irish Schools beat Irish Youths in Coolmine this morning 39-8


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    #408
    Jedwardian
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    The Clubs squad:
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    Schools squad:
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    Taken from @JustinIRFU


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    #409
    Hagz
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    19/26 are from Leinster Senior Cup Schools. Good grief.


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    #410
    Hagz
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    http://www.inpho.ie/assignment/Under-18-Challenge-Match-Ireland-U18-Clubs-vs-Ireland-U18-Schools/habKBffnYrPR5vNYB_GyJw..a?ts=o215oLDppq7GJUjDojpTVA..a


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    #411
    Quint2010
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    Hagz wrote: »
    19/26 are from Leinster Senior Cup Schools. Good grief.


    Yeah they have the 3 Roscrea lads as being from Munster schools whereas they all played Leinster Schools earlier this season!


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    #412
    ormond lad
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    Quint2010 wrote: »
    Yeah they have the 3 Roscrea lads as being from Munster schools whereas they all played Leinster Schools earlier this season!
    Hagz included them in the 19.
    Both youths and schools squads are in camp on the 2nd and 3rd january in limerick/cork and then the schools are off until march.


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    #413
    JustinDee
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    There were late pullouts by McCarthy and Brewer. Don't know who replacements, if any, were.


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    #414
    Oldboy 92
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    ormond lad wrote: »
    Hagz included them in the 19.
    Both youths and schools squads are in camp on the 2nd and 3rd january in limerick/cork and then the schools are off until march.

    Haven't heard there was another camp! Is this confirmed.


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    #415
    ormond lad
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    Oldboy 92 wrote: »
    Haven't heard there was another camp! Is this confirmed.
    Id seen it on an excel file of all irish 18s/19s/20s training camps, games back in september but this obv could have changed since then.
    Not exactly another camp. Game today, 2 days off for new years eve/new years day and then back in for another 2 days of training


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    #416
    thetruth_time
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    ormond lad wrote: »
    Irish Schools beat Irish Youths in Coolmine this morning 39-8
    Sounds like a very one sided game,
    I think the youths might struggle at fira this year.


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    #417
    Hagz
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    thetruth_time wrote: »
    Sounds like a very one sided game,
    I think the youths might struggle at fira this year.

    I think it's a very talented group of schools players. The Leinster schools team coasted through the inter-pros.


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    #418
    thetruth_time
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    Hagz wrote: »

    I think it's a very talented group of schools players. The Leinster schools team coasted through the inter-pros.
    Very true, pity the schools are not in fira in 2013 they could have potentially won the competition!


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    #419
    ormond lad
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    thetruth_time wrote: »
    Sounds like a very one sided game,
    I think the youths might struggle at fira this year.
    Dont think they will. Its a very strong schools side this year totally backboned by a Leinster side that totally dominated the schools interpros.
    thetruth_time wrote: »
    Very true, pity the schools are not in fira in 2013 they could have potentially won the competition!
    Delighted the schools are not in the FIRA. The youths side should never have been out of the FIRA in the first place.


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    #420
    thetruth_time
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    ormond lad wrote: »
    Dont think they will. Its a very strong schools side this year totally backboned by a Leinster side that totally dominated the schools interpros.

    Delighted the schools are not in the FIRA. The youths side should never have been out of the FIRA in the first place.
    Why are you "delighted" the schools are not in fira? Very biased opinion I think.


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    #421
    Hagz
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    thetruth_time wrote: »
    Why are you "delighted" the schools are not in fira? Very biased opinion I think.

    I'd imagine it's because the Youths would probably benefit more from the exposure and experience.


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