***Motors Chat Thread*** Round 1

fasttalkerchat

If you want to make money on cars buy a 10 year old clio with mint body and less than 100,000 miles. Put it through the NCT and make it spotless inside and out. You can sell it for double the buying price if you buy well.
Also you get used to what to look for and how to fix small problems yourself.

cgal093

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

If you want to make money on cars buy a 10 year old clio with mint body and less than 100,000 miles. Put it through the NCT and make it spotless inside and out. You can sell it for double the buying price if you buy well.
Also you get used to what to look for and how to fix small problems yourself.

I've been doing this 2 weeks now :pac:

jsd1004

cgal093 wrote: »

Well, like I said, they seem to go for good money. €1200 with no mention of test; http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3434240

Non-runner for €400; http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3573545

€1200 again with no test (lower miles though) ; http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3692965



Dunno, I'll have to have a look first

I have a lovely alfa 156/rover any 2l petrol without tax and test. Ill sell it for 1000 euro..but i have a feeling there is a few others for the same price on donedeal...so ill take 800..but realistically no one will pay 1000 euros for any car without tax and test..but car is worth 200 euro scrap plus sell a few parts..so i will get about 500..so if i sell it for 800 euro im sorted..but is it worth the hassle? so sell it for 600 but no one will buy it because they wont make any money with the hassle..so scrap it... 200 euro..sold

cgal093

jsd1004 wrote: »

I have a lovely alfa 156/rover any 2l petrol without tax and test. Ill sell it for 1000 euro..but i have a feeling there is a few others for the same price on donedeal...so ill take 800..but realistically no one will pay 1000 euros for any car without tax and test..but car is worth 200 euro scrap plus sell a few parts..so i will get about 500..so if i sell it for 800 euro im sorted..but is it worth the hassle? so sell it for 600 but no one will buy it because they wont make any money with the hassle..so scrap it... 200 euro..sold

What hassle? Takes about 5 minutes to put it up on Donedeal, sit back, and wait for the phone to start ringing

andyseadog

cgal093 wrote: »

What hassle? Takes about 5 minutes to put it up on Donedeal, sit back, and wait for the phone to start ringing

you are extremely naive.

just because you've bought and sold a few bangers over the last week or two doesn't make you a pro.

you've already said tonight alone that you intend to drive without insurance and are intending to remove the ABS light from a car for sale.

quit while you are ahead, this can go one of two directions and its heading for the wrong one hard and fast.

fasttalkerchat

cgal093 wrote: »

What hassle? Takes about 5 minutes to put it up on Donedeal, sit back, and wait for the phone to start ringing

Phone's rarely ring. You get stupid texts and silly offers. Eventually you get a phone call from someone waning to come out but they offer 100 less than you advertised. If you had advertised at that amount you could have sold it in half the time anyway!


And about the ABS light... People buying used cars know that going to court isn't worth the hassle and some people take matters into their own hands. Covering up faults like that could lead to a prison sentence, or more likely a kicking.

jsd1004

cgal093 wrote: »

What hassle? Takes about 5 minutes to put it up on Donedeal, sit back, and wait for the phone to start ringing

amateur

Foxhole Norman

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

Im 19 aswell. I wonder who is yonger?

But AFAIK foxhole is the youngest, he did his leaving cert there last june. :cool:

Yup, 18 :cool:

BUBBLE WRAP

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

Yup, 18 :cool:

good stuff.

cgal093

andyseadog wrote: »

you are extremely naive.

just because you've bought and sold a few bangers over the last week or two doesn't make you a pro.

you've already said tonight alone that you intend to drive without insurance and are intending to remove the ABS light from a car for sale.

quit while you are ahead, this can go one of two directions and its heading for the wrong one hard and fast.

I didn't say I was a pro nor do I think that, I've a long way to go.

Yes, I did say I was going to drive without insurance, then I said I wouldn't, and I'm not going to.

I didn't say I'm gonna remove the ABS light from the car, where did you get that from?

Why should I quit? Its making me some money and I'm having fun. Why is it heading for the wrong direction? Because you and I don't agree on something as small as the price of a car?

andyseadog

cgal093 wrote: »

I didn't say I was a pro nor do I think that, I've a long way to go.

Yes, I did say I was going to drive without insurance, then I said I wouldn't, and I'm not going to.

I didn't say I'm gonna remove the ABS light from the car, where did you get that from?

Why should I quit? Its making me some money and I'm having fun. Why is it heading for the wrong direction? Because you and I don't agree on something as small as the price of a car?

you said you were going to advertise the car after you fixed the ABS light. not fix the ABS fault. this drew my attention to it so i asked you

- do you intend to remove the ABS bulb or just cover it over...

to which you replied you'd check it out and see.

nowhere did you mention doing a diagnostic, buying a pump or a sensor etc.

When i was a young lad, from the age of 15 or 16 i used to tidy up cars and sell them. Maybe one a month, buy a ****ter, service it, valet it, test it if neccessary, spend days/ weeks in my spare tinkering with it until it was as perfect as i could get it. dad would drive them anywhere they needed to go (thanks dad )

over 2 years i'd say i sold 20 odd cars, always made money, maybe 150-200 on a car, twas a great experience and make some pocket money.

buying ropey yokes for pennies and selling the same ropey yoke with its problems hidden and a wash 6 or 7 hours later is wrong on so many levels in my opinion.

cgal093

andyseadog wrote: »

you said you were going to advertise the car after you fixed the ABS light. not fix the ABS fault. this drew my attention to it so i asked you

- do you intend to remove the ABS bulb or just cover it over...

to which you replied you'd check it out and see.

nowhere did you mention doing a diagnostic, buying a pump or a sensor etc.

When i was a young lad, from the age of 15 or 16 i used to tidy up cars and sell them. Maybe one a month, buy a ****ter, service it, valet it, test it if neccessary, spend days/ weeks in my spare tinkering with it until it was as perfect as i could get it. dad would drive them anywhere they needed to go (thanks dad )

over 2 years i'd say i sold 20 odd cars, always made money, maybe 150-200 on a car, twas a great experience and make some pocket money.

buying ropey yokes for pennies and selling the same ropey yoke with its problems hidden and a wash 6 or 7 hours later is wrong on so many levels in my opinion.

Apologies, I'm going to fix the ABS fault, or at least have a look anyway.

What makes you think I buy 'ropey yokes' ?

andyseadog

cgal093 wrote: »

Apologies, I'm going to fix the ABS fault, or at least have a look anyway.

What makes you think I buy 'ropey yokes' ?

the fact that they clearly are.

problematic ten year old yokes with no tax or test riddled with faults and damage.

cgal093

andyseadog wrote: »

the fact that they clearly are.

problematic ten year old yokes with no tax or test riddled with faults and damage.

Have you seen any of the cars I've bought?

I've spent my own money on those and you go off calling they ropey, problematic yokes riddled with faults and damage? How the hell can you say that if you haven't seen any of them?

How would you like it if I said something about your Glanza? I doubt you'd like it very much, and I would have the decency to keep my thoughts of your car to myself so I wouldn't offend, and I'd appreciate you doing the same.

andyseadog

cgal093 wrote: »

Have you seen any of the cars I've bought?

I've spent my own money on those and you go off calling they ropey, problematic yokes riddled with faults and damage? How the hell can you say that if you haven't seen any of them?

How would you like it if I said something about your Glanza? I doubt you'd like it very much, and I would have the decency to keep my thoughts of your car to myself so I wouldn't offend, and I'd appreciate you doing the same.

does spending your own money on them somehow guarentee their legitimacy? no?

i've seen a battered focus full of filler

a golf with (by your own admission) a bootlid painted with a brush thats a different colour on the inside

a clapped out clio that you said the lights stopped working on the way home and the horn doesn't work either edit : also mild rear end damage and a broken rear wiper

and you have a 75 with an ABS problem.

they are hardly prime examples in their respective fields are they? whether you want to believe it or not.

say what you will about my glanza. find a fault, i dare you. i was waiting months for the right one to come up for sale, didn't mind paying top dollar for it and if i do say so myself i got what i paid for. i could have picked up a wanked example for a quarter of the price 6 months earlier being sold by a fella like you but i said i'd save myself the grief.

cgal093

andyseadog wrote: »

does spending your own money on them somehow guarentee their legitimacy? no?

i've seen a battered focus full of filler

a golf with (by your own admission) a bootlid painted with a brush thats a different colour on the inside

a clapped out clio that you said the lights stopped working on the way home and the horn doesn't work either

and you have a 75 with an ABS problem.

they are hardly prime examples in their respective fields are they? whether you want to believe it or not.

say what you will about my glanza. find a fault, i dare you. i was waiting months for the right one to come up for sale, didn't mind paying top dollar for it and if i do say so myself i got what i paid for. i could have picked up a wanked example for a quarter of the price 6 months earlier being sold by a fella like you but i said i'd save myself the grief.

I spent time and money on the Focus, getting the body as good as I can. It was my first time using filler and spraying. So what if I made a mistake? I had two people come out and walk away but I still sold it and the buyer was happy with what he got.

The Golf was a banger but still drove good. Again, had people walk away but was still sold and the buyer was happy with what they got.

A clapped Clio? It was completely standard. Pretty clean too. The lights on the trailer stopped working, nothing to do with the Clio. The horn does work, I don't know how to use it though First person to view it left a deposit and collected it today, happy with what they bought.

Admittedly, the 75 was a big gamble. I bought it without even looking at it. You win some, you lose some.

And I'd rather keep my thoughts on your Glanza to myself

ottostreet

I've got to check this thread more often, looks like all the fun stuff happens in here!

And andy's Glanza is a right little minter of a yoke, and I'm nowhere near a Glanza fan. cgal, you'd do well to not start insulting members cars.

cgal093

ottostreet wrote: »

I've got to check this thread more often, looks like all the fun stuff happens in here!

And andy's Glanza is a right little minter of a yoke, and I'm nowhere near a Glanza fan. cgal, you'd do well to not start insulting members cars.

I don't want to sound cheeky, but what do you mean by that?

andyseadog

cgal093 wrote: »

I spent time and money on the Focus, getting the body as good as I can. It was my first time using filler and spraying. So what if I made a mistake? I had two people come out and walk away but I still sold it and the buyer was happy with what he got.

The Golf was a banger but still drove good. Again, had people walk away but was still sold and the buyer was happy with what they got.

A clapped Clio? It was completely standard. Pretty clean too. The lights on the trailer stopped working, nothing to do with the Clio. The horn does work, I don't know how to use it though First person to view it left a deposit and collected it today, happy with what they bought.

Admittedly, the 75 was a big gamble. I bought it without even looking at it. You win some, you lose some.

And I'd rather keep my thoughts on your Glanza to myself

They may well have been happy with what they bought, you may well have made a profit, not one bit of that do i dent you.

but those cars are very poor examples. cheap for a reason kind of yokes. and you are clearly not afraid to do what needs be to disguise a fault and pull the wool over a buyers eyes and that is not cool.

cgal093

andyseadog wrote: »

do you finish every sentence with "happy with what they bought".

They may well have been happy with what they bought, you may well have made a profit, not one bit of that do i dent you.

but those cars are very poor examples. cheap for a reason kind of yokes. and you are clearly not afraid to do what needs be to disguise a fault and pull the wool over a buyers eyes and that is not cool.

Again, how the hell would you know? You haven't seen any of the cars.
Not cool man, I spent time and money on those cars and I don't appreciate you saying things like that about them

andyseadog

I'm going to bed. Mods, i'm sorry for the trainwreck i feel i've left.

andyseadog

cgal093 wrote: »

Again, how the hell would you know? You haven't seen any of the cars.
Not cool man, I spent time and money on those cars and I don't appreciate you saying things like that about them

you blatantly speak of it! you post written word and photographs and prices on these very boards.

andyseadog

andyseadog wrote: »

...

but those cars are very poor examples. cheap for a reason kind of yokes. and you are clearly not afraid to do what needs be to disguise a fault and pull the wool over a buyers eyes and that is not cool.

... you informed the person who bought the vectra about the leaky shock that's disguised as a 2nd hand replacement?

ottostreet

What gives you the right to insult someone's choice of car? Andy took his time selecting a car, went off and found one that met his requirements and spent his hard earned on it. No buying to sell, buying to own, enthusiastic about his choices.

I don't think any member on the site deserves to have their car choices belittled or insulted, so what is the purpose of you doing so?

cgal093

ottostreet wrote: »

What gives you the right to insult someone's choice of car? Andy took his time selecting a car, went off and found one that met his requirements and spent his hard earned on it. No buying to sell, buying to own, enthusiastic about his choices.

I don't think any member on the site deserves to have their car choices belittled or insulted, so what is the purpose of you doing so?

I haven't insulted his car. I have the decency not to. He has insulted my cars though.

cgal093

andyseadog wrote: »

you blatantly speak of it! you post written word and photographs and prices on these very boards.

Have I said anything about hiding a problem and not telling a potential buyer about it? Nope. I have posted pictures of me actually doing work on the cars.

I'm sure if you could buy a car cheap, do a small amount of work on it and sell it on for about €100-€150 more you would.

TestTransmission

Can we end this now please.

cgal093

TestTransmission wrote: »

Can we end this now please.

Sure..

andyseadog

Apolgies cgal...

swimfast

Hi looking to buy my first car im 18 male going to go for a polo cheap to insure etc what should i look for when im buying one ?