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If you are pregnant , don't bother with MY school

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    #122
    Min
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    Deleted User wrote: »
    This young girl can't get into school and yet the bankers who ruined the enonomy can send their kids to any school they want, some justice !

    I think you meant to say these bankers cannot get into jail.


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    #123
    Old Tom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭Old Tom


    Biggins wrote: »
    Aaa.. I'm a qualified teacher and have taught, amid other things.
    Does that count sir?
    Whoever gave a person with your attitude towards other people right to teach children and possibly act as an authority must have been insane.

    EDIT: "Have taught" sounds like someone has corrected the mistake... :rolleyes:


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    #124
    Min
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    Do schools give maternity leave to children?


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    #125
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,568 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Old Tom wrote: »
    Whoever gave a person with your attitude towards other people right to teach children and possibly act as an authority must have been insane.

    O' right, because your such a charmer yourself and so better?
    More stupidity!

    Your whole words on this matter show your own character and frankly I personally won't want you near any children of this state if I could help it.
    You would be a disgrace to the Irish education system.

    Edit:
    "Have taught" sounds like someone has corrected the mistake...
    Actually seeing as you seem to know me so well, I shouldn't have to explain then that I have gone on to set-up a number of companies, one of which is also registered with www.IRO.ie and the www.cro.ie, is an education company.
    ...But hey, carry on with your daftness....


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    #126
    It wasn't me!
    Registered Users Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Old Tom wrote: »
    Whoever gave a person with your attitude towards other people right to teach children and possibly act as an authority must have been insane.

    EDIT: "Have taught" sounds like someone has corrected the mistake... :rolleyes:

    And why's that? While I can't say I agree with Biggins on everything, I don't see how he's an unsuitable authority for children


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    #127
    lazygal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    I presume the school is as diligent about refusing teenage boys who impregnate girls entry to education.

    Of course this is the kind of policy Jesus would be proud of.


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    #128
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,283 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    She didnt setle in the other schools , wonder why . Perhaps were not seeing the full picture here.

    From anything ive seen Of school age pregnancies, they dont seem to happen to the quiet or academic types . If this girl is anything like the ones I went to school with who got preggers then Id say theres a lot more to it, and the kid is just an easy excuse.


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    #129
    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    She didnt setle in the other schools , wonder why . Perhaps were not seeing the full picture here.

    From anything ive seen Of school age pregnancies, they dont seem to happen to the quiet or academic types . If this girl is anything like the ones I went to school with who got preggers then Id say theres a lot more to it, and the kid is just an easy excuse.

    Maybe there is other things at play here but the issue is the school refused her on the basis she was pregnant and then later on because she was an unmarried mother. There are plenty of unmarried parents who want to do well, who have so much potential and would excel at school -many do. Not all teen parents end up on welfare but they need support and this school will just continue to behave like this if they are allowed to get away with it. Its probably not much use to the girl in question but if it helps others in future then they need to be exposed.


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    #130
    ash23
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    Min wrote: »
    Do schools give maternity leave to children?

    It's not maternity leave in the classic sense of the word, in that it is not paid leave. But of course a girl who has had a baby needs time off leading up to and following the birth.
    The governement cover up to 10 weeks of home tuition. But it has to be applied for through the school and GP letters have to be given as to why a girl cannot attend the school as normal.


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    #131
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,568 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    The fact that there is idiots still in this world that would reject a person just because of a medical or previous medical condition, is sad!

    What's worse is that some of them are even here with this stupidest out-dated train of thought, in this thread!


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    #132
    St.Spodo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭St.Spodo


    lazygal wrote: »
    I presume the school is as diligent about refusing teenage boys who impregnate girls entry to education.

    Of course this is the kind of policy Jesus would be proud of.

    Good point. And you'd swear Christianity was all about tolerance and forgiveness and all that.


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    #133
    Davidth88
    Registered Users Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Davidth88


    Min wrote: »
    Do schools give maternity leave to children?

    If you read the report , she was attending a school ( her second school having dropped out after Junior Cert and tried work ) , she got home schooling from the state during her ' maternity leave ' after which she wanted to attend ' school A ( the school in question ) because her friends were there , and it was ' outside the city ' .

    So the answer seems to be yes , with home schooling provided by the state , I am open to correction by people who may know the rules better.


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    #134
    Old Tom
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    Biggins wrote: »
    O' right, because your such a charmer yourself and so better?
    More stupidity!

    Your whole words on this matter show your own character and frankly I personally won't want you near any children of this state if I could help it.
    You would be a disgrace to the Irish education system.
    Haha, you are funny :) The few posts in AH show my character... Excellent. I said "It's freedom, the school has right to make a decision" - here I am, a devil himself, Nazi, homophobic idiot and frustrated bigot.

    I an indeed surprised how often reasonable (by the looks of things) people like you use expressions such as "stupidity", "arsehole", "idiocy" etc. towards others.

    I don't teach, never have, never will. I have my own family and kids to look after and I'm proud of it. Have I called that girl any names? No, but it does stop stupid crowd to crucify anyone who is against, abuse them, call them names.

    I really don't care what the AH leftist crowd says about me, I totally don't give a single damn - and I will say whatever I think until a friendly mod bans me in the name of leftist tolerance.

    Now, you can come back to your mantra about stupidity, my little all-knowing genius :rolleyes:


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    #135
    Min
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    St.Spodo wrote: »
    Good point. And you'd swear Christianity was all about tolerance and forgiveness and all that.

    To forgive one has to be sorry for the wrong they did.

    Was this schoolgirl sorry she has loose morals while wanting to enter a lay Catholic school which has different morals?
    If the school girl was sorry for her actions, then the school should have taken her in, if not then the problem is not the school's.


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    #136
    Biggins
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    Old Tom wrote: »
    ...Now, you can come back to your mantra about stupidity, my little all-knowing genius :rolleyes:

    Well judging by your amazing ability to know me so well that you can judge my level of skill in supplying an education process to others, you must be the all knowing one.

    Your one of a kind sir and we all can see that.
    Good health.


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    #137
    ash23
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    Min wrote: »
    To forgive one has to be sorry for the wrong they did.

    Was this schoolgirl sorry she has loose morals while wanting to enter a lay Catholic school which has different morals?
    If the school girl was sorry for her actions, then the school should have taken her in, if not then the problem is not the school's.


    Sorry for her actions? For producing a child?
    Why should she be apologetic for having a baby? Loose morals? Oh sweet Jesus :mad:


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    #138
    MagicMarker
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    Min wrote: »
    To forgive one has to be sorry for the wrong they did.

    Was this schoolgirl sorry she has loose morals while wanting to enter a lay Catholic school which has different morals?
    If the school girl was sorry for her actions, then the school should have taken her in, if not then the problem is not the school's.

    You've got to be ****ing kidding me.


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    #139
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    Min wrote: »
    To forgive one has to be sorry for the wrong they did.

    Was this schoolgirl sorry she has loose morals while wanting to enter a lay Catholic school which has different morals?
    If the school girl was sorry for her actions, then the school should have taken her in, if not then the problem is not the school's.

    So, she has strong catholic beliefs then, is this why she wants to go to this particular school?



    Or are they just complaining because they are used to having everything handed to them and have never been told 'no' before?


    Home tuition paid for and OPFA (essentially paid maternity leave)


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    #140
    noddyone2
    Registered Users Posts: 313 ✭✭noddyone2


    Proper order. Good morals taught at that school, I'd say.


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    #141
    mconigol
    Registered Users Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭mconigol


    School should be named and the people running it sacked.

    Ireland no longer appears to care about society, instead it's treated as if it's some big corporation where the main focus in on attracting investors and doing everything and anything to keep them happy.

    Whatever happened to taking care of the most vulnerable in society?


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    #142
    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Min wrote: »
    To forgive one has to be sorry for the wrong they did.

    Was this schoolgirl sorry she has loose morals while wanting to enter a lay Catholic school which has different morals?
    If the school girl was sorry for her actions, then the school should have taken her in, if not then the problem is not the school's.

    pmsl at this

    The "sin" is in having sex...most kids who have sex - and adults for that matter - will be lucky enough not to get pregnant. Sadly for the ones who do - the girls that is - they wear their "sin" in public which makes it easier for people like you to think they are slappers.


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    #143
    ash23
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    micropig wrote: »
    So, she has strong catholic beliefs then, is this why she wants to go to this particular school?
    No she doesn't. Neither do most who attend catholic schools. There isn't a huge amount of choice out there.


    Or are they just complaining because they are used to having everything handed to them and have never been told 'no' before?
    I'm fairly sure they are annoyed because a young girl was treated really badly.


    Home tuition paid for and OPFA (essentially paid maternity leave)
    You don't know that she gets one parent family payment. You know nothing about what she has or doesn't have. More ignorant assumptions. And one parent family allowance is not maternity leave. She had 10 weeks of home tuition. You'd begrudge the girl that? After giving birth? Should she have hopped out of the bed and trotted back into school? You do realise what happens when a woman gives birth right?


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    #144
    Min
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    ash23 wrote: »
    Sorry for her actions? For producing a child?
    Why should she be apologetic for having a baby? Loose morals? Oh sweet Jesus :mad:

    Yes for her actions, not for producing the child once she was pregnant. She was either 15 or 16 years old when she got pregnant, school children really shouldn't be having sex.
    MagicMarker wrote: »
    You've got to be ****ing kidding me.

    No, when I was her age, I was busy getting my education, brought up by parents with strong morals and didn't even consider sex an option until I was an adult.
    micropig wrote: »
    So, she has strong catholic beliefs then, is this why she wants to go to this particular school?



    Or are they just complaining because they are used to having everything handed to them and have never been told 'no' before?


    Home tuition paid for and OPFA (essentially paid maternity leave)

    She did the right thing keeping the baby, but the fact is she shouldn't have been putting herself about so she would end up pregnant.


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    #145
    Old Tom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭Old Tom


    Biggins wrote: »
    we all can see that.
    Ah, "we all"... I see you are a Voice Of the Community now father ...

    Ok, I'm gonna make myself a cup of coffee, have a nice day sir.


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    #146
    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    micropig wrote: »
    So, she has strong catholic beliefs then, is this why she wants to go to this particular school?



    Or are they just complaining because they are used to having everything handed to them and have never been told 'no' before?


    Home tuition paid for and OPFA (essentially paid maternity leave)

    The saddest thing is that you are an educator yourself. I hope you don't treat your own students with such contempt.


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    #147
    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Min wrote: »
    Yes for her actions, not for producing the child once she was pregnant. She was either 15 or 16 years old when she got pregnant, school children really shouldn't be having sex.



    No, when I was her age, I was busy getting my education, brought up by parents with strong morals and didn't even consider sex an option until I was an adult.



    She did the right thing keeping the baby, but the fact is she shouldn't have been putting herself about so she would end up pregnant.

    Well she did...no point wagging the finger after the fact. Do you think one bad decision should have what could be a life long effect on her? She had a baby, she didn't rob a bank or kill somone ffs.


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    #148
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    ash23 wrote: »


    I'm fairly sure they are annoyed because a young girl was treated really badly.


    /QUOTE]

    Yes it's the states fault, It's the schools fault, it's societies fault..


    everyones fault but the mother and her daughter



    She was enrolled in another school before giving birth - the state was providing her education


    This is just a hissy fit she is throwing because she didn't get to go to the school she wanted,

    Tough Sh1T


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    #149
    noddyone2
    Registered Users Posts: 313 ✭✭noddyone2


    eviltwin wrote: »
    pmsl at this

    The "sin" is in having sex...most kids who have sex - and adults for that matter - will be lucky enough not to get pregnant. Sadly for the ones who do - the girls that is - they wear their "sin" in public which makes it easier for people like you to think they are slappers.
    'Lucky' not to get pregnant? Since when does 'luck' come into it? Contraception is widely available. Bad parenting maybe?


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    #150
    Biggins
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    ash23 wrote: »
    ...After giving birth? Should she have hopped out of the bed and trotted back into school? You do realise what happens when a woman gives birth right?

    I couldn't help but laugh at that (in a good way - I totally agree with you Ash23).

    My wife whom had four kids by me, couldn't barely walk for weeks after she gave birth to our offspring - never mind supposedly spring up and go anywhere beyond a room.

    I would not deny anyone the right to immediately try and start up their studies in what ever way they can.
    In fact I find it admirable that the young woman even wished to, as soon as she possibly could!
    Thats some good thinking and certainly should not be knocked!


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    #151
    MagicMarker
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    Min wrote: »
    Yes for her actions, not for producing the child once she was pregnant. She was either 15 or 16 years old when she got pregnant, school children really shouldn't be having sex.



    No, when I was her age, I was busy getting my education, brought up by parents with strong morals and didn't even consider sex an option until I was an adult.



    She did the right thing keeping the baby, but the fact is she shouldn't have been putting herself about so she would end up pregnant.

    So she should now be punished for getting pregnant is that it?

    Ah yeah, what brilliant morals your parents instilled in you. The hypocrisy is ****ing laughable.


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