New York Jets Thread

LuckyLloyd

Geno Smith? Pointless. We know what we've got there. Problems run way deeper across the entire team tbh.

phatkev

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Season was ****ed during the summer. Should have had Fitzpatrick in and working with the team throughout the entire preparation process. All to save, what, a couple of million in the end? Whatever. The Jets.

So what the Jets should of caved and gave a QB thats proved over and over that he's sh1t a blank cheque? Fitz hasnt developed as a player in the last 5-6 years, you honestly think an extra month in the summer is going to make any difference.

Geno Smith? Pointless.We know what we've got there

And as bad as he is, he has never thrown 6 picks in a game! He's also never had a set of established wide receivers like Fitz did. Maybe if it had of been Geno getting bailed out time and time again last season he could have got a nice $12 million extension.

Problems run way deeper across the entire team

I agree 100% with this the secondary is a catastrophe, the offense as a whole has looked static this past couple of weeks. Players that were showing great improve last season like Pryor, Mauldin, Gilchrist and Skrine have all had major declines in play. The coaches and play calling has also been a big problem.

FreeOSCAR

Obvious point but you live and die by your QB - Fitz has been worryingly bad the past 2 games. If his form continues against the Steelers I do think Bowles (rightly or wrongly) will think about switching to Geno. We lose to the Cardinals and it will definitely be time for change.

If that happens, to me Petty should slide into QB2 and Fitzpatrick will either be released or become inactive on game days. From a sporting point of view, really a depressing thought considering the team records he set last year.

We will be picking in the top 8 next year if we keep this up, we MUST draft a QB in the first round if that happens. Use Richardson or Wilkerson to move up int he draft if necessary to ensure we get one.
I will be bitterly disappointed if the FO thinks Hackenberg is the answer and we ignore the position next year (if he is, feel free to destroy me)
In a year we are seeing young QB's flourish, our 2nd rounder is a redshirt for the season

Then again....in a bizarre scenario we might end up seeing Tony Romo in Green and White next year!

dfx-

What are the Jets offense like at screen passes?

Wentz and the Eagles destroyed the Steelers with them and any success the Chiefs had was the same.

FreeOSCAR

dfx- wrote: »

What are the Jets offense like at screen passes?

Wentz and the Eagles destroyed the Steelers with them and any success the Chiefs had was the same.

Not the worst - Definitely part of the offense. Used it will with Bilal Powell on Sunday against the Seahawks and it's Matt Forte's.....Forte :pac: to catch screens.
I think it's gonna be in the gameplan for the Steelers.

They Jets can't defend bubble screens though so Lev Bell will rake up yards that way.

phatkev

FreeOSCAR wrote: »

Not the worst - Definitely part of the offense. Used it will with Bilal Powell on Sunday against the Seahawks and it's Matt Forte's.....Forte :pac: to catch screens.

I was surprised how little they used Forte in the passing game these last three weeks, I think he's only had 2 catches in each of them games.

They Jets can't defend bubble screens though so Lev Bell will rake up yards that way.

They've being horrible at all types of screens. Its being so frustrating because the defense has being reading screens pretty well but the first tackle is nearly always missed. I expect Bell to have a big receiving day, on screen plays and on short passes over the middle which the Jets seem totally incapable of stopping regardless of the player

Igotadose

Could be worse. Could be a Rutgers fan... yeesh... 78-0. Not a typo.

Revis out today vs. Steelers, too. This isn't going to be pretty, basically seems like the talents not there this year, but it is a long season and the first 6 games were going to be rough. Still, 2-3 would be a victory.

phatkev

Igotadose wrote: »

Could be worse. Could be a Rutgers fan... yeesh... 78-0. Not a typo.

Revis out today vs. Steelers, too. This isn't going to be pretty, basically seems like the talents not there this year, but it is a long season and the first 6 games were going to be rough. Still, 2-3 would be a victory.

Be rough alright outscored 136-0 in the last two games

phatkev

yep I'm officially done making excuses for Bowles! Terrible play calling, terrible time management, terrible coach

FreeOSCAR

phatkev wrote: »

yep I'm officially done making excuses for Bowles! Terrible play calling, terrible time management, terrible coach

Coward as well, that punt decision down 11 on 4th and 2 is the turning point for fans and media. We played 3 Playoff caliber teams in a row so losing is not unexpected but they have been easily beaten in all 3 games. We are one of the worst teams in the league and that's down to Bowles. As it stands I hope he's fired at the end of the season, he has been garbage all year!

phatkev

FreeOSCAR wrote: »

Coward

Couldn't have said it better! as i type this he used a fcuking time out when the clock was stopped, pathetic!

phatkev

so after a "championship week of practices" according to Bowles thats the sort of performance they turn in! I'd hate to see how they play after a bad week

In Exile

You know what? As bad as that punt was, and it was awful, the play that really p*ssed me off was that stupid shovel pass on 3&2. How many times does that need to fail before Gainley stops calling it?

dfx-

What happened second half - 0 points and only 100 yards offense against a team who yield yards readily? It was a very even game in all respects at halftime.

Apparently Bowles said after the game the punt call wasn't a mistake...

hots

Shocking stuff, was trying to stay behind bowles until now but he'll have his work cut out for the rest of the year now

phatkev

dfx- wrote: »

What happened second half - 0 points and only 100 yards offense against a team who yield yards readily? It was a very even game in all respects at halftime.

what happened was the Steelers coaches were smart enough to adjust their gameplan. The Jets coaches dont know the meaning of adjustment!

Apparently Bowles said after the game the punt call wasn't a mistake...

Thats exactly what he said.......idiot!!

phatkev

In Exile wrote: »

You know what? As bad as that punt was, and it was awful, the play that really p*ssed me off was that stupid shovel pass on 3&2. How many times does that need to fail before Gainley stops calling it?

and the sad thing is, if they had went for it on 4th this is the exact play they would have used and more than likely not pulled it off

Amerika

Well, there's always next year. :mad:

In Exile

Amerika wrote: »

Well, there's always next year. :mad:

My big worry, with the schedule, is we win 6-7 of our remaining games with Fitz under centre for all of them, finish close to .500 and have a middle of the road draft pick

If we are to win a majority of our games, I'd rather it be with Geno/Petty to see what they can do.

LuckyLloyd

I'm never ever in favour of going into a tank mode personally, and am definitely against anything of the sort this side of the Bye Week. After Arizona we have a favourable four game stretch before the Bye. We could be 4 - 6 coming off the Bye week at home to NE with the season still live. Fitzpatrick thus far this season has a superior QBR to Geno's two seasons under center.

The game got away from us last week in the fourth quarter but it was definitely an improved performance when compared to the previous two weeks against the best side on the schedule thus far. Keep going imo, and make wholesale changes at the Bye week if the squad is 3 - 7 or worse.

FreeOSCAR

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

The game got away from us last week in the fourth quarter but it was definitely an improved performance when compared to the previous two weeks against the best side on the schedule thus far.

Improved performance in what area?
Fitzpatrick, sure, no picks but he didn't do a tap after HT...IMO the Jets were just as bad if not worse than the Chiefs and Seahawks.

- Forte is looking older every week.
- Mo Wilkerson was anonymous (not for the first time this year), Richardson not far behind him
- Secondary stinks, Steelers receivers were having a field day on Marcus Williams. Pryor has been awful and Gilchrist regressed. The Cardinals will destroy them on the Deep Ball again on Monday.

I see 4/5 potential wins remaining on the schedule unless that Pass Defense improves dramatically.

There is just nothing really at all to get excited about right now with this team.
Boring coach overseeing boring Football right now.

phatkev

Decker placed on IR:(

Igotadose

Sigh. RIP Dennis Byrd A car accident ffs.

phatkev

Igotadose wrote: »

Sigh. RIP Dennis Byrd A car accident ffs.

Terrible news and the fact that its a death that could have been completely avoidable makes it all the worse. Really puts all our moaning in here into perspective when you hear of news like this. Id left this video in the weird and wacky thread, its a nice little story of the effect he had on the 2011 playoff game against the Pats

Such sad news. Despite his horrendous injuries he remained an integral part of the Jets organization. I remember one story where he came in to give the Jets a rallying cry before their playoff match against the Pats and Braylon Edwards said that "With God as my witness I have never been more prepared to play" he proceeded to get a TD by carrying what looked like the entire Pats secondary into the endzone. Bart Scott also said that after that speech there was no way they could lose that game.

RIP #90

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUO0tNTQxsY

SHOVELLER

Bad start with a 58 yard TD. Guy ran untouched all the way. 7-0 down.

110th consecutive sell out in this stadium for Cardinals.

phatkev

50 yard td, Sheldon playing ILB, two false starts in row! I just dont know anymore

SHOVELLER

Another TD in untouched. 14-3 down now with 6 minutes to HT.

phatkev

Sheldon playing like an absolute beast, pity the other 52 couldn't follow suit. Fitz needs to be benched, he's beyond bad

Edit: Leo can be added to the good players list, so that just leaves us with 51 bums

Edit2: OK Marshall as well but that's it!! What a catch that was

SHOVELLER

Replica of last TD for Johnson who is now on a hat trick. 21-3.

Shambolic stuff. Season over at 1-5.

SHOVELLER

28-3

Geno warming up