I can haz general discussion? 2!!

Michellenman

If the girl in the reading room does a big sniffle one more time, I will not be held responsible for my actions.


/twitch

mickstupp

Quick question due to excessive paranoia: Can we park in the college without permits since it's outside of term?

Oh. Found it here: http://campusservices.nuim.ie/traffic/
Permits only enforced up to the 4th of May.

Baile an Locha

It takes 7 minutes to walk from Castleknock Station to Connolly Hospital. I asked the man handing out the metro for directions and he said "Follow me, I'm going that way". I love when people are friendly.

How so Joe

I fuppin' hate when someone says something weird on facebook and you don't know if it's that person being a dick, or someone else on their facebook being a dick while fraping them.
Argh.

Thwip!

Your Text Here wrote: »

Guess what show just got renewed for a fourth season?

Aww hellz to the yeah

Fbjm

Baile an Locha wrote: »

It takes 7 minutes to walk from Castleknock Station to Connolly Hospital. I asked the man handing out the metro for directions and he said "Follow me, I'm going that way". I love when people are friendly.

He's probably after your vote for "metro man of the month" or whatever they're calling that quiz these days

wonton

so much of my exam time is just me thinking of synonyms of certain words to try not repeat them like a million times.

How so Joe

Furthermore... Similarly... In contrast to this... Additionally...

Uhhh... Simila- dang, I've used that already...

Alt_Grrr

Your Text Here wrote: »

Guess what show just got renewed for a fourth season?

...what show? ... I don't watch television much these days... so I'll take a stab and say... the west wing?

Seren_

Alt_Grrr wrote: »

...what show? ... I don't watch television much these days... so I'll take a stab and say... the west wing?

Community. It's a very funny show

Fbjm

So many people have told me I should watch that, but that would mean going to the bother of torrenting etc... hopefully get around to it over summer, from what I've heard it's worth it

Alt_Grrr

Your Text Here wrote: »

Community. It's a very funny show

I've heard of it, its usually prefaced with "have you seen" and my reply is "is that on TV?"

Fbjm wrote: »

So many people have told me I should watch that, but that would mean going to the bother of torrenting etc... hopefully get around to it over summer, from what I've heard it's worth it

I usually say the same thing, but I doubt I'll ever get to see every single TV show that's recommended to me. I mean, I at least have to pretend that I have a life.

Bonkers_xOx

Last exam tomorrow... Don't make me leave first year!

How so Joe

Is it weird that I don't want exam season to end?
/clings to Maynooth.

Fbjm

Yes, very weird. What's wrong with you :P



One exam down, three to go for me

DB21

That lal thing has gotten creepier :pac:

rcaz

Can we say 'circlejerk' in an exam? 'Cause Darmstadt in the 50s was such a ****ing circlejerk.

How so Joe

DB21 wrote: »

That lal thing has gotten creepier :pac:

Sort of like watching a train wreck. I just keep scrolling, and scrolling...

girlonfire

Does anyone have any idea what time the reading room opens at in the morning?

Michellenman

Was there at 6am this morning and barely got a plug for my laptop so I'd say from about 5am.

girlonfire

Great, thanks a million:)

freeze4real

sup, can anyone call to ask about the results of last semester.

I mean basically my parents lol.

I passed 1st semester (2.1) but dont want them to know about it, family politics.

So can my dad call give my details name and course and say that i'm saying results hasn't been released and all that crap....

Fbjm

I'd be surprised if he could, the way we've done it so far is we email the specific lecturer from our NUIM address. May be different in your course though.

Jimmy Iovine

freeze4real wrote: »

sup, can anyone call to ask about the results of last semester.

I mean basically my parents lol.

I passed 1st semester (2.1) but dont want them to know about it, family politics.

So can my dad call give my details name and course and say that i'm saying results hasn't been released and all that crap....

I don't think your results are given out over the phone like that. You need the password to get access on the internet.

The only way I'd imagine they could would be if this was your final year. When you get your final results you can order a copy of your transcripts to be sent to your house. All they ask is your name and address. Apart from that I doubt it.

banquo

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

freeze4real wrote: »

sup, can anyone call to ask about the results of last semester.

I mean basically my parents lol.

I passed 1st semester (2.1) but dont want them to know about it, family politics.

So can my dad call give my details name and course and say that i'm saying results hasn't been released and all that crap....

I don't think your results are given out over the phone like that. You need the password to get access on the internet.

The only way I'd imagine they could would be if this was your final year. When you get your final results you can order a copy of your transcripts to be sent to your house. All they ask is your name and address. Apart from that I doubt it.

In sort: no. Nobody can call. It would have to be obtained in person, and not to anyone but you. You're safe

irish_goat

RE: The USI vote.

Any bets on how many people are going to be stupid enough to suggest we can afford 100% exchequer funded 3rd level?

rcaz

I think I've completely run out of steam. Bollocks. Help.

Michellenman

Snap.

Last undergrad exam ever tomorrow, haven't covered enough but I just can't be arsed anymore.

rcaz

Michellenman wrote: »

Snap.

Last undergrad exam ever tomorrow, haven't covered enough but I just can't be arsed anymore.

I know that feel. If you're in the main sports hall at half three we can fist bump over our indifference. Meh.

Michellenman

I'm going to be hammered by half three, soz babez.

Stall it to main sports hall at 9.30 and I'll be ready to fist bump.

Eric Cartman

irish_goat wrote: »

RE: The USI vote.

Any bets on how many people are going to be stupid enough to suggest we can afford 100% exchequer funded 3rd level?

quite a lot of people live in fantasy land unfortunatly. Its just what this country needs, college becoming 100% free so more people go do degrees 'for the craic'

wolfyboy555

Is the SU bar still open in the evenings? I'm not finished till tuesday and the class was thinking of heading there!

How so Joe

yep, 'tis. My class went there to celebrate the end of our masters after we finished today. I left at about nine, and they were still in full flow.

rcaz

This is how I feel after today's study.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz3fWAtOMV4

DB21

Suddenly, I'm old :pac:

Thwip!

Happy birthday again DB...OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

OneOfTheseDays

irish_goat wrote: »

RE: The USI vote.

Any bets on how many people are going to be stupid enough to suggest we can afford 100% exchequer funded 3rd level?

Currently our economy cannot support 100% exchequer funded 3rd level. That's due to a multitude of reasons that don't need to be elaborated upon here.

However since USI began over 50 years ago it has strived (or claimed to at least) to encourage equality of access to 3rd level education. It is not the job of USI to present government policy to students. Instead it is to protect, defend and improve the conditions of its (claimed) 250 000 members.

I voted for 100% exchequer funded in the *"preferendum", and without seeming over confident or cocky I wouldn't consider myself "stupid".

Why?
Well I'm a romanticist and ideologue and really, really don't like the world that we live in.

But I suppose if I continue down that avenue I'll be accused of being a loony who doesn't know his structural deficit (arse) from his GDP (elbow).

A Union is a collective to defend and protect its members. You aim for the ideal and you'll possibly have to compromise. So if we approach the negotiating table with a point of view that is at variance with the government of the day we can at least achieve concessions and position ourselves in the most advantageous position for studnets. Following on from years of campaigning if USI just throw in the towel now they can kiss goodbye to ever being a relevant lobbying body in this country again.

*Such a BS idea. It's obviously being pushed from the top of USI/SUs across the country. It should have taken the form of a simple Yes/No REFERENDUM in every MO.

"Do you agree with USI's current stance on 3rd level funding? *state policy*"

Yes or No

Then if there is a no vote you have reason to change policy/rant over (for now).

Michellenman

Last ever NUIM exam probably today. Last of the undergrad anyway(assuming I don't have to repeat). It's been real, NUIM. I'll miss ya.


You may now perma-ban me from this forum.



I'm just kidding - I love this place.

CaoimH_in

I'm pretty sure cuts can be found elsewhere (maybe a rule of only being allowed one wage from the public purse would help us find some funds, not to mention be more equitable). There is an argument that we shouldn't be the ones to foot the bill when we are the future of this exports led economy.

We already have a hugely expensive education system in relation to other EU countries. (This very day I could move to Finland, Norway, Sweden, the Netherlands, Germany, and I think Belgium too, to get a free, quality education). We have English prices, but not English institutions. The only fallout from making us pay fees is that less people will attend Irish universities. Have a look at post-grad places!

There is still a huge blooming argument to be made for exchequer funded fees. Agreed, the money has to come from somewhere, but it doesn't mean we have that burden. Not when there are so many people with their hand in the pot for no good reason--especially at local government level. Nonsense that my parents have to pay hand over fist for my education.

"Its just what this country needs, college becoming 100% free so more people go do degrees 'for the craic' "

There is so much wrong with this I really can't even begin. Stupidity.

wonton

CaoimH_in wrote: »

I'm pretty sure cuts can be found elsewhere (maybe a rule of only being allowed one wage from the public purse would help us find some funds, not to mention be more equitable). There is an argument that we shouldn't be the ones to foot the bill when we are the future of this exports led economy.

We already have a hugely expensive education system in relation to other EU countries. (This very day I could move to Finland, Norway, Sweden, the Netherlands, Germany, and I think Belgium too, to get a free, quality education). We have English prices, but not English institutions. The only fallout from making us pay fees is that less people will attend Irish universities. Have a look at post-grad places!

There is still a huge blooming argument to be made for exchequer funded fees. Agreed, the money has to come from somewhere, but it doesn't mean we have that burden. Not when there are so many people with their hand in the pot for no good reason--especially at local government level. Nonsense that my parents have to pay hand over fist for my education.

"Its just what this country needs, college becoming 100% free so more people go do degrees 'for the craic' "

There is so much wrong with this I really can't even begin. Stupidity.

Them countries are making huge changes too though, sweden for example had open free education for basically anyone from anywhere up till two years ago , now its only for eu citizens and I read they are trying to make only for swedes.


obviously thats sounds like much a smaller deal , but in relative terms they are making as much cuts, and had then been hit like us you could imagine they would have put on fees.

Oscars Well.

DB21 wrote: »

Suddenly, I'm old :pac:

Happy Birthday Darren!

Eric Cartman

CaoimH_in wrote: »

I'm pretty sure cuts can be found elsewhere (maybe a rule of only being allowed one wage from the public purse would help us find some funds, not to mention be more equitable). There is an argument that we shouldn't be the ones to foot the bill when we are the future of this exports led economy.

We already have a hugely expensive education system in relation to other EU countries. (This very day I could move to Finland, Norway, Sweden, the Netherlands, Germany, and I think Belgium too, to get a free, quality education). We have English prices, but not English institutions. The only fallout from making us pay fees is that less people will attend Irish universities. Have a look at post-grad places!

There is still a huge blooming argument to be made for exchequer funded fees. Agreed, the money has to come from somewhere, but it doesn't mean we have that burden. Not when there are so many people with their hand in the pot for no good reason--especially at local government level. Nonsense that my parents have to pay hand over fist for my education.

"Its just what this country needs, college becoming 100% free so more people go do degrees 'for the craic' "

There is so much wrong with this I really can't even begin. Stupidity.

1) are you saying that nobody goes to college just to waste a year or figure out what they want to do with their lives by spending a year or even a whole degree studying something they dont care about. ?

2) So your answer is college can be free for all if we punish rich people and heads of councils etc... that my friend is the only stupid argument im seeing.

Personally Im supporting the graduate tax option. It makes the most sense , if your degree gets you a good job then you pay it back , if it doesnt well then you dont.

The student loan scheme would also be acceptable for some degrees. There are some arts subjects (I said some, not a majority, not all) that give an absolutely worthless degree that I know people have done 'for the craic' and I would support a student loan scheme for such degrees to make sure my tax money isnt wasted and that only students who are serious about studying it would actually apply

Seren_

It would appear that the SU now has a somewhat functioning website.

Eric Cartman

Your Text Here wrote: »

It would appear that the SU now has a somewhat functioning website.

its probably just a wordpress site but its still quite good, didnt know there was a maynooth iphone app until now either

How so Joe

Eric Cartman wrote: »

its probably just a wordpress site but its still quite good, didnt know there was a maynooth iphone app until now either

Yep, it's wordpress! It's an interim site until the main one goes up. But it actually works, which is more than we've been able to say for years!

CaoimH_in

Eric Cartman wrote: »

1) are you saying that nobody goes to college just to waste a year or figure out what they want to do with their lives by spending a year or even a whole degree studying something they dont care about. ?

2) So your answer is college can be free for all if we punish rich people and heads of councils etc... that my friend is the only stupid argument im seeing.

Listen Cartman, I'm saying that if someone wastes a year in college they have to pay to repeat, then they have to pay for every following year. That's fair enough; everyone would agree that's fair.

If someone studied something for 3-4 years and does nothing to do with their degree, they usually end up working in a different field off the back of their good degree. If someone re-trains and does another degree, they have to pay for it. That is fair too.

I'm saying that without a "free" education I wouldn't be, nor would many of my closest friends, in college. All the many, many eejits messing, taking advantage of the state's good will and failing their classes, adding nothing to college life, or just being plain gowls, will result in them having to pay to either repeat and have full fees or they will complete their poor/OK degrees. Having a poor/OK degree will of course mean poorer jobs, less pay, and proves that you can't run around wild without getting smacked somewhere.

I love "free" university education. It's pluses far outweigh its minuses. Kids from lower/middle/higher working class families can go to college without having an unnatural burden on them. Adults who didn't even get the chance to finish secondary school, not even free until the late 70s, I think, (unless you were in a tech) can get to attend college for free. This can have a myriad of meanings for these people, to signify intellect, for pride, for money, for just the experience of university.

In any sensible democracy you must have a understanding with history, coupled with material conditions at present, and with view to presenting the best future possible. It's absolute nonsense that one does not figure free education essential in any past, present, or future when it can be had.

That's all I'm saying man.

Fbjm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

its probably just a wordpress site but its still quite good, didnt know there was a maynooth iphone app until now either

A German PhD student made it a couple months back, legend of a man.

How so Joe

CaoimH_in wrote: »

Listen Cartman, I'm saying that if someone wastes a year in college they have to pay to repeat, then they have to pay for every following year. That's fair enough; everyone would agree that's fair.

That's totally unfair. Pay for your repeat year, sure, but if you choose the wrong course, realise, drop out within the first year and pick a course you'll actually enjoy and stick at, why should you have to pay the entirety of the tuition fees? Everyone is allowed a mistake or two along the way, by all means pay for your repeat year, but why should you have to pay for something you haven't done before (i.e. 2nd year+) just because it took you a year longer to figure out what you wanted to do?

DB21

CaoimH_in wrote: »

Listen Cartman, I'm saying that if someone wastes a year in college they have to pay to repeat, then they have to pay for every following year. That's fair enough; everyone would agree that's fair.

Bull****. Failed the year last year due to stress related depression. Should I have had to pay for this year as well as the two subsequent years? (I didn't have to pay for my repeat year as I was deemed medically unfit to be in college last year).

CaoimH_in

How_so,

That's totally unfair. Pay for your repeat year, sure, but if you choose the wrong course, realise, drop out within the first year and pick a course you'll actually enjoy and stick at, why should you have to pay the entirety of the tuition fees? Everyone is allowed a mistake or two along the way, by all means pay for your repeat year, but why should you have to pay for something you haven't done before (i.e. 2nd year+) just because it took you a year longer to figure out what you wanted to do?

I agree such measures should be there, but how would they be policed? It'd be very hard to write social policy for that. That's why the system is the way it is. You are constantly advised to quit in the first year if you don't feel comfortable.

I assume too that the line of thought is that you would try finish your degree and use it to find work, save up, and retrain. Or to get a student loan, retrain, and pay back your loan. The latter really isn't a pretty option, neither is the former tbh, but it's as a result of not really being able to police those who didn't find their course from those that didn't work, unfortunately.

DB,

Bull****. Failed the year last year due to stress related depression. Should I have had to pay for this year as well as the two subsequent years? (I didn't have to pay for my repeat year as I was deemed medically unfit to be in college last year).

Don't be rude.

But anyway, yeah, I have had a similar sort. I won't try and relate of course, I don't know you.

Of course not, you were ill, far easier to police who was medically unfit for college. I'm extremely glad you didn't have to pay! Thankfully those provisions are there, I hadn't thought of them when forming my reply.