Vu+ Ultimo

swoofer

A lot more than that,

" Multiple Recording – up to 8 REC simultaneously
Now with triple tuners integrated, Ultimo users can record up eight channels in different TPs at the same time. "

dodzy

GBCULLEN wrote: »

A lot more than that,

" Multiple Recording – up to 8 REC simultaneously
Now with triple tuners integrated, Ultimo users can record up eight channels in diŸfferent TPs at the same time. "

Some people have way too much time on their hands

Clareman

I have an Ultimo, I think I've recorded 1 thing so far and that was just to test it to be honest, I'm primarily using it as a media centre unit, which it is fantastic at for this, just copy files to it over the network and watch whatever you want, I have a 2TB drive put in there.

rurs

Compton wrote: »

Probably a stupid question but what can you do with 3x dvb-s2 tuners? watch one channel while recording 2 others?

Well you could have two tuners for 28.2, plus a motorized dish, or Saorsat, lots of possibilities.

war10ck

Top of my list....VU+ Ultimo...can't wait untill next week:-)

SalteeDog

rurs wrote: »

Well you could have two tuners for 28.2, plus a motorized dish, or Saorsat, lots of possibilities.

Or indeed use the third tuner to stream FTA TV to a PC in a separate room.

Stuxnet

SalteeDog wrote: »

Actually any disecq enabled 'combo' box could do what you need (receive DTT plus Satellite)

However, you don't state it but if your requirements include full PVR capabilities (EPG, record to HDD while watching a different channel), then that's where the VU+ duo or ultimo can deliver.

ya i should of said, as im replacing the sky hd box, I would want fta hd, epg and the ability to record 2 or more channels if possible,

so the duo has the capability to input 2 different satellites simultaneously (hotbird & astra2)? as well as saorview aerial input ?

eta: looks like the ultimo is the way to go, from the pic i see of the duo ? it can only accept the 2 wires the sky aerial feeds into it ? or am i missing something

SalteeDog

The duo requires an additional USB stick DVB-T tuner to receive Saorview. These cost €50 or less.

My own setup is a Duo connected to Eutelsat 5w and Astra 28.2E ...using a Disecq switch to automatically switch between sats. I also have the DVB-T USB stick for Saorview.

I sourced my equipment from www.satboxes.com. Tony there is very helpful.

banie01

@Stuxnet the Vu Duo uses USB tuner for Saorview.
I use a PlayTV which adds 2 DVB-T tuners, will be handy when the 2nd Mux kicks in.
Just to add I use my Duo with 2 Diseqc switches and have 4.8e,9e,10e,13e,16e,19.2e,23.5e and 28.2e all on 1 dish(MultiLNB) and saorview via USB.
Works a treat and all available to PVR, watch one tuner/record another and even stream media at the same time.

SalteeDog

@Stuxnet in case you are unfamiliar with them, Disecq switches allow the connection of multiple satellite LNBs to a single receiver connection. Even receivers with just one satellite connection can be connected to multiple dishes or LNBs via a Disecq as long as the receiver has Disecq capability (not all do).

The advantage of receivers with two connections (such as the duo) is that it allows the reception of two signals on different frequencies simultaneously so you can record one while watching another.

Personally I think the ultimo is overkill but then money isn't burning a hole in my pocket. If it was I'd buy one.

swoofer

I was under the impression that you can plug in a dtt tuner to the ultimo, hence 3 tuners and pick up irish saorview? Am I wrong? Or is the usb a better option?

a bit confused now but not bought a vu yet so no worries

gbc-

banie01

GBCULLEN wrote: »

I was under the impression that you can plug in a dtt tuner to the ultimo, hence 3 tuners and pick up irish saorview? Am I wrong? Or is the usb a better option?

a bit confused now but not bought a vu yet so no worries

gbc-

You can, the Ultimo can take modular internal tuners and the setup your describing would be 2xDVB-S2 and 1xDTT all internal.
The Ultimo can also run USB tuners too...

In theory the internal Tuner for DTT on the Ultimo should run issue free as there are Vu+ written drivers available.
Currently some USB tuners have issues as a lot of the drivers(Barring Sundtek and a few others) are ported to Linux/E2 rather than being directly written.
Blackhole currently seems to have the best USB tuner support and even has some propriertary drivers, but I'm using VIX currently with the winNova Drivers for PlayTV and have had no probs with it since build 153.

dodzy

banie01 wrote: »

@Stuxnet the Vu Duo uses USB tuner for Saorview.
I use a PlayTV which adds 2 DVB-T tuners, will be handy when the 2nd Mux kicks in.
Just to add I use my Duo with 2 Diseqc switches and have 4.8e,9e,10e,13e,16e,19.2e,23.5e and 28.2e all on 1 dish(MultiLNB) and saorview via USB.
Works a treat and all available to PVR, watch one tuner/record another and even stream media at the same time.

Interested in a few pics of that 8x lnb setup banie01, if you get a chance

banie01

dodzy wrote: »

Interested in a few pics of that 8x lnb setup banie01, if you get a chance

Its actually 7LNBs with the 9e/10e postions merged via editing the sats.xml(allows 2 sats within @1.5 degrees to be received via 1 LNB) or you can also assign sats to LNBs in advanced setup.
Anyways here are the pics, I use a Triax TD88 dish.

EDITust adding a link to my last post in the ''whats your setup'' thread.
Bit more info on how I sorted my setup, also here is where I started learning about MultiLNB and messing with my setup.
Theres some very knowledgeable folks on here always willing to help
Thanks Boards!

testicle

I think I may be thick but does anyone have a step by step guide to getting the picons displaying on the LCD display - the VFD ones. I've the latest Vix running on my Ultimo. The on screen picons weren't a problem, but I'd like to get these working too.

Cheers.

testicle

testicle wrote: »

I think I may be thick but does anyone have a step by step guide to getting the picons displaying on the LCD display - the VFD ones. I've the latest Vix running on my Ultimo. The on screen picons weren't a problem, but I'd like to get these working too.

Cheers.

Figured it out, PEBKAC moment!

Stuxnet

hey lads, so im another step closer to purchasing an ultimo, but just another quick question,

after reading a few other threads here, would i be better off using saorsat instead of saorview via usb or aerial, keep everything coming through a single satellite

Im looking at a Triax TD88 Dish (90cm)

will this do, all UK FTA, Saorsat, and Hotbird ...one dish, one box (vu+ ultimo)

how many lnb's needed ? just 3 is it ?, do they have double outputs ? Ill want to be able record and watch other channels,

sorry for being a n00b

SalteeDog

Generally LNBs can be single, dual, quad or octo..eg. 1,2 ,4 or 8 outputs. (There are also quatro LNBs for more complex set-ups). I use a quad on my 28.2e feed - gives me one feed each to two tuners on my Vu+ Duo (hence allowing me to watch on one tuner and record on another). It also gives me two spare feeds which I use for two bedrooms (single feed each). I would suggest you don't consider anything less than a quad LNB.

You will need a separate LNB for each satellite. The Saorsat LNB will be a Ka band - a different type that the normal Ku band one.

Regarding whether you are better to use Saorview or Saorsat, I'll let others comment on that as there are a few factors at play - e.g. location?

banie01

Stuxnet wrote: »

hey lads, so im another step closer to purchasing an ultimo, but just another quick question,

after reading a few other threads here, would i be better off using saorsat instead of saorview via usb or aerial, keep everything coming through a single satellite

Saorview is better really Saorsat is really only a fallback service to ensure 100% digital coverage in areas not served by transmitter towers after the ASO

Stuxnet wrote: »

Im looking at a Triax TD88 Dish (90cm)

Excellent piece of kit! I have one and currently have 7LNBs on the bad boy

Stuxnet wrote: »

will this do, all UK FTA, Saorsat, and Hotbird ...one dish, one box (vu+ ultimo)?

Yes

Stuxnet wrote: »

how many lnb's needed ? just 3 is it ?, do they have double outputs ? Ill want to be able record and watch other channels,

If you want full PVR capability across those 3 sats, you will need 3x Dual LNBs at a minimum(Altho using quads will allow you to expand the setup by adding receivers/multiroom) and 2 4x1 Diseqc switchesa, You can get 16x1 switches nowadays which is what I would buy if I was setting up again and that will give you a nice setup from the off.
As a rule you will need 1 LNB for each Sat you want to receive, you can receive 2 sats via 1 LNB if they are within @1.5 degrees of each other.
But thats a whole step up again

Stuxnet wrote: »

sorry for being a n00b

Don't be we all started somewher
If I remember correctly you are based in Limerick?
If you are, Theres a user on here Steveon, I'd recommend him highly if you are after a dish installer.

givecredit

Stuxnet wrote: »

after reading a few other threads here, would i be better off using saorsat instead of saorview via usb or aerial, keep everything coming through a single satellite

Im looking at a Triax TD88 Dish (90cm)

will this do, all UK FTA, Saorsat, and Hotbird ...one dish, one box (vu+ ultimo)

how many lnb's needed ? just 3 is it ?, do they have double outputs ? Ill want to be able record and watch other channels,

sorry for being a n00b

1. I would personally get the internal DTT tuner for Ultimo and get your Irish channels from saorview. (This will give you more channels then saorsat, TV3 and 3E not on saorsat and probably unlikely to appear there)
2.Triax TD88 dish is good dish. Also get the lnb bar holder that fits onto dish. This holds 4 lnbs. (Circa 15 euro) and two 4x1 Diseqc switches
3.I'd suggest 3 twin ku lnbs for FTA 13deg, 19deg and 9deg and one quad lnb for 28deg. You may want to connect separate sat boxes to 28deg in other rooms. quad lets you connect 2 more boxes.
Good luck with your purchase. Its a nice setup...

Stuxnet

Cheers lads, some excellent advise, all taken on board,

ya banie, correct, we spoke before, Im in a new house since I spoke to you last time, and I think Ive actually used Steveon to fit my sly setup in the last house.

Ill defiantly give him a shout again soon enough, when Im ready ! just out of college this week and starting in Intel for for co-op Monday ! so need to save up some $$ ching ching $$

Have been using vpn and laptop to get the missus's Italian channels, so will be cool to have them through the tv !

SalteeDog

Do you mind me asking? Why the Ultimo rather than the Duo?

Stuxnet

well Im a bit of a gadget freak, so I want the better processor, more memory, blind scan, also Im future proofing myself for the sake of an extra few quid.

why have a porsche when you can have a lambo

SalteeDog

Fair enough.

testicle

What's so good about blind scan?

givecredit

testicle wrote: »

What's so good about blind scan?

Blind Scan = Scanning the Sat for available Transponders. This will scan the sat and update any transponders in your list if they were not included but are found to have signal. The process is a lot longer then your regular Sat Scan because it's actually performing two scans. One for TP's and the other for Channels

SalteeDog

Slightly OT but what is a 'network scan'?- I know when doing a manual scan on the Vu+ you can select 'network scan' yes or no. What's the difference?

givecredit

On each Satellite, individual providers eg TNTSAT, Nova, BSkyB can be thought of as Networks.

If you select a Network scan, it alleviates the need to ensure your Transponder list is complete and up to date as each TP used by a Network provider will carry raw data bearing the parameters of all the other TPs it uses on that Satellite - so simply scanning one known TP with "Network" enabled, will ensure that all other TPs on that Network are added and scanned.

It's a facility to reduce the amount of manual updating required to TP lists.

Not as powerful as a Blind (or Auto) scan, which finds any and all active TPs on a Satellite regardless of Network, but pretty useful nevertheless.

Clareman

I've just gotten Project Valerie configured now, oh my gawd how did I ever survive without this program? For those who don't know, it's a front end that organises all the files you have on your box. It searches through IMDB for details on your files, organises them automatically, gives details. It also tells you what you've watched already so you don't have to try to remember what you've seen.

Excuse me while I have some more fun with this box

banie01

Clareman wrote: »

I've just gotten Project Valerie configured now, oh my gawd how did I ever survive without this program? For those who don't know, it's a front end that organises all the files you have on your box. It searches through IMDB for details on your files, organises them automatically, gives details. It also tells you what you've watched already so you don't have to try to remember what you've seen.

Excuse me while I have some more fun with this box

Its a fantastic plugin once its configured right isn't it
It can be a bit tricky to get everything recognised initially esp. for TV shows but using valerie.info files usually sorts it.
I love this plugin, I think its an absolute must if you use your box for movies/TV.