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France V Ireland – Stade de France, Paris. Sunday 4th March 15:00 RTE2 & BBC2

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    vixdname wrote: »
    If Sexton hadnt fluffed that kick today and the rest of the team played as they did would we or wouldnt we have won he game today, yes or no ?

    Parra missed a kick too. If he had of got it France would have won. If they both had of got it then it still would have ended a draw. If Ferris hadn't of run down the drop goal attempt then France would have won.

    IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF

    This is professional sport. Nobody is going to be perfect all the time. If they were then professional sport would be boring.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    John_Rambo wrote: »

    Group one - ex-players or very enthusiastic supporters, know their beans.
    I'm still playing (J1) and a very enthusiastic supporter. :cool:
    What group am I in?

    I dont read Ireland match threads anymore, just skim through them, its just gotton too bad.
    I will read the last few pages a few hours after the game (like now) when people have calmed down a bit and the riff-raff have long gone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Madworld


    vixdname wrote: »
    Stop copying fishhook12

    Right :rolleyes:

    Thank you ignore list!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭vixdname


    Madworld wrote: »
    Right :rolleyes:

    Thank you ignore list!

    AMEN


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,329 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    vixdname wrote: »
    If Sexton hadnt fluffed that kick today and the rest of the team played as they did would we or wouldnt we have won he game today, yes or no ?

    I have no idea.

    Neither do you.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭Leinster7


    Some of the posters on here are hilarious.
    They really know very little about rugby, how it is played and what is involved in team dynamics, what it feels like to be in a team etc etc.
    There are of course a few good regular posters who understand the game but for those who are always putting province before country, it is this small-minded provincialism that made it easy for England to divide and conquer Ireland for many many years. All the high-kings in-fighting etc. I for one love my provincial team but I love my country more. Irish games bring us all together and we should embrace that and embrace the best that each part of our country has to offer. I love to meet people from all over the island as everyone has different perspectives. Obviously we are a nation full of provincial small minded thinkers too and unfortunately many of them flood these boards.

    It has not been easy watching Ireland the last few years under Kidney, not because he is from munster, but because he is a coach who is second rate with first rate players.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    teednab-el wrote: »
    It's reality and my analysis is to the point. We have a kicker that can't place kick.

    10/12 kicks in two games.

    What planet are you living on?

    Notice the lack of "thanks" to your posts?


    Planet Earth kiddo.

    Out of those two kicks one was scorable, and it cost us the match. Points win games not just possession. If we had won well it wouldn't have mattered but it did today.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    teednab-el wrote: »
    Planet Earth kiddo.

    Out of those two kicks one was scorable, and it cost us the match. Points win games not just possession. If we had won well it wouldn't have mattered but it did today.

    Still can't figure out if you actually genuinely believe that the remaining 75 minutes of game would have played out exactly the same way from that point onwards except that we would have had three extra points.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    teednab-el wrote: »
    Planet Earth kiddo.

    Out of those two kicks one was scorable, and it cost us the match. Points win games not just possession. If we had won well it wouldn't have mattered but it did today.

    No, as I said earlier, ROG's lack of balls to go for the 75m drop goal cost us. Don't you listen?!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    tolosenc wrote: »
    teednab-el wrote: »
    Planet Earth kiddo.

    Out of those two kicks one was scorable, and it cost us the match. Points win games not just possession. If we had won well it wouldn't have mattered but it did today.

    No, as I said earlier, ROG's lack of balls to go for the 75m drop goal cost us. Don't you listen?!

    He never got a chance to go for a drop goal but Sexton did a few times. I'm not saying that Sexton is a bad player but lacks killer instinct.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭vixdname


    Leinster7 wrote: »
    Some of the posters on here are hilarious.
    They really know very little about rugby, how it is played and what is involved in team dynamics, what it feels like to be in a team etc etc.
    There are of course a few good regular posters who understand the game but for those who are always putting province before country, it is this small-minded provincialism that made it easy for England to divide and conquer Ireland for many many years. All the high-kings in-fighting etc. I for one love my provincial team but I love my country more. Irish games bring us all together and we should embrace that and embrace the best that each part of our country has to offer. I love to meet people from all over the island as everyone has different perspectives. Obviously we are a nation full of provincial small minded thinkers too and unfortunately many of them flood these boards.

    Surely its the people who have differing opinions to yourself and keep the discussion going that keeps you interested in the boards also, it'd be a fairly boring forum if we all just sat around agreeing with each other and patting each other on the backs for our sporting knowledge prowess.
    You have to understand, people will have differing opinions on these subjects but its the idiocy of those who get on their high horses and lose the rag when someone expresses an opinion opposite to theirs that turns the thread into arguments .
    People will have differing opinions from you - learn to deal with it


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭vixdname


    tolosenc wrote: »
    No, as I said earlier, ROG's lack of balls to go for the 75m drop goal cost us. Don't you listen?!

    Hes reading tolosenc, not listening


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    vixdname wrote: »
    Hes reading tolosenc, not listening

    That's a shame. You and he could really do with listening to some sense. Everything I say is 100% fact.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭vixdname


    tolosenc wrote: »
    That's a shame. You and he could really do with listening to some sense. Everything I say is 100% fact.

    Disagree


  • Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭Leinster7


    vixdname wrote: »
    Surely its the people who have differing opinions to yourself and keep the discussion going that keeps you interested in the boards also, it'd be a fairly boring forum if we all just sat around agreeing with each other and patting each other on the backs for our sporting knowledge prowess.
    You have to understand, people will have differing opinions on these subjects but its the idiocy of those who get on their high horses and lose the rag when someone expresses an opinion opposite to theirs that turns the thread into arguments .
    People will have differing opinions from you - learn to deal with it

    I am not that narcissistic, nor lacking in intelligence and open-mindedness. Your response is extremely arrogant in its reading.

    I welcome intelligent debate and opinion, just not small minded provincialism when it comes to our beloved national team.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭vixdname


    Leinster7 wrote: »
    I am not that narcissistic, nor lacking in intelligence and open-mindedness. Your response is extremely arrogant in its reading.

    I welcome intelligent debate and opinion, just not small minded provincialism when it comes to our beloved national team.

    What you call small minded provincialism I call a differing of opinion to yours. One which you just cant seem to accept or that someone has the audacity to have when it comes to certain players on our fine national team.
    Perhaps its because your a Leinster man that your staunch small minded provincialism as you call it forbids you from accepting that someone can actually think that Johnny Sexton has his flaws and thinks ROG in his day was a better player.
    Lastly, how can accuse me of taking part in provincialism when you dont even know what province I'm in ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭BarackPyjama


    teednab-el wrote: »
    He never got a chance to go for a drop goal but Sexton did a few times. I'm not saying that Sexton is a bad player but lacks killer instinct.

    Completely agreed. In the HEC final last year he wilted away and died in the second half in the face of a massive half time points deficit. Oh no, hang on a second... he actually came onto the pitch scored a brance of tries, kicked a load of penalties, regained the lead and single-handedly instigated the biggest comeback in HEC final history.

    But you're right. No killer instinct.


  • Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭Leinster7


    vixdname wrote: »
    What you call small minded provincialism I call a differing of opinion to yours. One which you just cant seem to accept or that someone has the audacity to have when it comes to certain players on our fine national team.
    Perhaps its because your a Leinster man that your staunch small minded provincialism as you call it forbids you from accepting that someone can actually think that Johnny Sexton has his flaws and thinks ROG in his day was a better player.
    Lastly, how can accuse me of taking part in provincialism when you dont even know what province I'm in ?

    I never accused you of anything other than an arrogant sounding post.

    "The lady doth protest too much, methinks".

    :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Anyone who thinks O'Gara is a 100% kicker just hasn't a clue what theyre talking about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 questforfit


    As I sit here reading the English newspapers and their review of the game I realize what a joke this forum is.

    All of them commend Sexton on an excellent game. Not one of them mentions the fact that he missed one kick. Neither do they mention the fact that Parra missed two.

    There seems to be an abundance of people who want to shift the blame onto Sexton for one missed kick and then conveniently ignore the fact that Keith Earls (and to a lesser degree D'arcy) gave up 5 points with his defensive blunder. They also conveniently forget that our pack can be responsible for giving away far too many kickable chances to Parra.

    If you want to criticize Sexton then go ahead but at least let it be warranted. He was man of the match last week and was one of our best players yesterday as well. In the last two games hes kicked 10/12. The venom being spouted from sections of Munster fans is really shameful. Why is that Murray has a decent game and is barely criticized yet when Sexton has a very good game he is turned into the villian?

    I feel that some of the more experienced Munster posters around here should be looking to reign in their more immature brethen in these match threads. It reflects badly on Munster rugby and even Irish rugby. Heck, even the lone French poster has commented on it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,723 ✭✭✭✭phog


    It's easy to see posters seem happy with the result as this thread has been dragged to a new low and some poster that you'd expect more from are major contributors. I guess the best thing for it now would be a lock.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 questforfit


    phog wrote: »
    It's easy to see posters seem happy with the result as this thread has been dragged to a new low and some poster that you'd expect more from are major contributors. I guess the best thing for it now would be a lock.

    and let the idiots win?

    That was one of the biggest games of the season and its not even 24 hours after the whistle and you want it locked? jesus wept.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,723 ✭✭✭✭phog


    and let the idiots win?

    That was one of the biggest games of the season and its not even 24 hours after the whistle and you want it locked? jesus wept.

    I dont know about you but it's tiresome having to read glance through so many posts with no real mention of the game. I'd prefer it locked than dragged down the mire, obvioulsy if it can be rescued I'd much prefer that.


  • Site Banned Posts: 4,066 ✭✭✭Silvio.Dante


    andyman wrote: »
    Oh sweet mother of...
    Heaslip's done nothing for years now. He's shot his bolt. Time to warm the bench...


  • Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭Leinster7


    Heaslip's done nothing for years now. He's shot his bolt. Time to warm the bench...

    and this would be an example of what I was referring to chaps ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭andyman


    Heaslip's done nothing for years now. He's shot his bolt. Time to warm the bench...

    We had a massive discussion on Heaslip's contribution last week. See that turnover towards the end that he won for us? Yeah, he's been doing that a lot in the last year or so, and one of our best players at doing it too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    andyman wrote: »
    Oh sweet mother of...
    Heaslip's done nothing for years now. He's shot his bolt. Time to warm the bench...
    Y'know that part of the game where they all jump on each other and stuff? That's called the breakdown, and Heaslip is one of the best in Europe at it.

    Edit: Forgot to mention its the most important part if the game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Reloc8


    Unlucky not to come away with the win.

    On the Ref - in a close on you nearly always feel that the ref shaded against you. Inasmuch as Pearson had some dodgy calls against us, France would feel that we were very lucky to keep 15 men on the pitch. We could have had a yellow each half. As has rightly been said Pearson is not crooked, just average (being kind to him).

    (Oh yeah as an aside, just on the Wayne Barnes lineout call from the penalty that Kearney knocked into touch - in fact Barnes was correct. Law 19.1 provides that a player who jumps and knocks a ball which has crossed the line of touch back into the field of play must land with both feet on the field of play or it will be a lineout, ball in touch. Kearney landed off the field of play and the ball had already crossed the field of play.)

    Main reason I thought we did not win was that our lineout fell apart at important moments for us especially 5m out in the second half. Very disappointing when everything else went ok or very well.

    Their try was a defensive error for us but I would put it down to 'just one of those things' as opposed to a systems failure.

    Probably the other biggest disappointment was being held scoreless in the second half. I would have thought we would be able to sniff out a couple of 3 pointers.

    That said, it was a performance to lift the heart in most aspects of the game and we should be grateful to the team & management for that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,684 ✭✭✭JustinDee


    Heaslip's done nothing for years now. He's shot his bolt. Time to warm the bench...

    Has most turnovers per game to his name, as well as being in the top three tacklers, constantly.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,407 ✭✭✭✭justsomebloke


    phog wrote: »
    I guess the best thing for it now would be a lock.

    and let the crazies lose on the rest of the forum I don't think so!!!!!


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