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Stay classy Gardai - Mod Note in OP

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    #32
    milehip1
    Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭milehip1


    tfitzgerald wrote: »
    In this case I have to side with the Garda . The driver was being smart with them . If I had being the guard I would have dragged him out of the car and asked him questions after he had a few hours in a cell


    Perhaps it's a good thing you're aint being a garda then.


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    #33
    baltimore sun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 483 ✭✭baltimore sun


    Vid should be working again now.


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    #34
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Comments disabled on that youtube video now, a few minutes after it was posted on boards

    Maybe he doesn't like the new comments he was getting

    I expect to see that video on indymedia, the mods there delete any comment they disagree with


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    #35
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    tfitzgerald wrote: »
    In this case I have to side with the Garda . The driver was being smart with them . If I had being the guard I would have dragged him out of the car and asked him questions after he had a few hours in a cell

    You should apply, you'd fit right in:p


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    #36
    AeoNGriM
    Registered Users Posts: 712 ✭✭✭AeoNGriM


    milehip1 wrote: »
    Perhaps it's a good thing you're aint being a garda then.

    And a good thing you're aint being an English teacher

    :D

    :pac:


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    #37
    _feedback_
    Registered Users Posts: 4,269 ✭✭✭_feedback_


    humberklog wrote: »
    Ah now come off it...there can often be plenty of excuses and reasons for not co-operating with the gaurds, bad instruction and undue interest is just that. As for doing what a guard tells you to do instantly? Well holy moly Mr. Orwell (and all that). Instantly? Good grief.

    Why not?

    The guy refused to co-operate. Why would you not do what a guard tells you? Why should they wait around?

    IMO, if the person is not disabled, injured or intoxicated, I don't see why the guards should wait. Two minutes is a long time when someone is refusing to co-operate, they have to gain control.


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    #38
    Seachmall
    Registered Users Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    elviscostello wrote: »
    There is no excuse for someone not co-operating.

    There's every excuse for not cooperating if you're doing nothing wrong.

    I've had a few encounters with Gardai and while I've always been cooperative and respectful I could fully understand why somebody wouldn't want to be.

    If you're going about your non-criminal related business it's ridiculous that somebody can simply stop you and request you do this and that without reason.

    I appreciate that they're only doing their job and I've utmost respect for most Gardai but people should have the right to tell them to feck off and continue on with their day.

    Their business is catching criminals and maintaining order, if they've no reason to believe you're a criminal or being disorderly then what you're doing is none of their business and "Fuck off" is a valid response to otherwise stupid demands and inquiries.


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    #39
    Padraig Mor
    Registered Users Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    Shouldn't the title of the video be changed to "Completely warranted police violence provoked by S2S nutjob"?


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    #40
    Reamer Fanny
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭Reamer Fanny


    The motor is broken


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    #41
    Jesus Shaves
    Registered Users Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Jesus Shaves


    hondasam wrote: »
    TBH I'm sick to death of this shell thing, it's costing us a fortune. Everyone knows the hassle with the gardai and the protesters, bring the army down there and see how they like that.

    Yeah, The army could bring down their great arsenal of handbags.


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    #42
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    Seachmall wrote: »
    There's every excuse for not cooperating if you're doing nothing wrong.

    I've had a few encounters with Gardai and while I've always been cooperative and respectful I could fully understand why somebody wouldn't want to be.

    If you're going about your non-criminal related business it's ridiculous that somebody can simply stop you and request you do this and that without reason.

    I appreciate that they're only doing their job and I've utmost respect most Gardai but people should have the right to tell them to feck off and continue on with their day.

    Their business is catching criminals and maintaining order, if they've no reason to believe you're a criminal or being disorderly then what you're doing is none of their business and "Fuck off" is a valid response to otherwise stupid demands and inquiries.

    +1 and imagine if it was happening on a regular basis when you're just going about your buisness


    I'm off to the shop.....


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    #43
    _feedback_
    Registered Users Posts: 4,269 ✭✭✭_feedback_


    Seachmall wrote: »
    There's every excuse for not cooperating if you're doing nothing wrong.

    I've had a few encounters with Gardai and while I've always been cooperative and respectful I could fully understand why somebody wouldn't want to be.

    If you're going about your non-criminal related business it's ridiculous that somebody can simply stop you and request you do this and that without reason.

    I appreciate that they're only doing their job and I've utmost respect for most Gardai but people should have the right to tell them to feck off and continue on with their day.

    Their business is catching criminals and maintaining order, if they've no reason to believe you're a criminal or being disorderly then what you're doing is none of their business and "Fuck off" is a valid response to otherwise stupid demands and inquiries.

    But they are not just somebody. They are our police force.


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    #44
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    Does the hat still matter?

    Yes illegal arrest if theres no hat on.

    Legally if you knock a gardas hat off whilst he's arresting you then the arrest is cancelled. If the garda attempts to continue with the arrest then you can actually make a citizens arrest on him for impersonating a garda. Fact.


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    #45
    foxyboxer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    tfitzgerald wrote: »
    In this case I have to side with the Garda . The driver was being smart with them . If I had being the guard I would have dragged him out of the car ve-hicle and asked him questions after he had a few hours in a cell

    FYP


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    #46
    Zulu
    Registered Users Posts: 10,965 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    What a tool.
    For a start it's clearly a set up.
    Secondly, I'd have supported the Guard pepper spraying the clown.


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    #47
    KeithM89_old
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,806 ✭✭✭✭KeithM89_old


    Tenner bet its the OP or friend of in the vid.


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    #48
    Seachmall
    Registered Users Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    elviscostello wrote: »
    But they are not just somebody. They are our police force.

    I think it was implied that I was referring to the Gardai throughout the post.

    Gardai or not poking their nose in somebody's business without a reason is excuse enough to not cooperate.


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    #49
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,408 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    elviscostello wrote: »
    Why not?

    The guy refused to co-operate. Why would you not do what a guard tells you? Why should they wait around?

    Did the guy refuse to co-operate? Half the conversation's missing.
    I've been instructed by the gardai to do something that they'd no power to request, I didn't do it. Why would I do something that anyone with no power to instruct in certain issues asks?

    It was all fairly brief. The gardai should have come over to his side of the door. Assessed and investigated the situation and then acted. That's their job and by the looks of it: they didn't do that.

    Yes it does look that the guy in the car is an asshat, but that's no reason the guards have to act like one too.


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    #50
    paddyh117
    Registered Users Posts: 404 ✭✭paddyh117


    well its cleary not "unprovoked" he went out of his way to get a reaction, film it and post it on tinterweb - all he's managed to do is look like an idiot.


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    #51
    inforfun
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    Ah well, at least he can now have the window fixed.


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    #52
    Jesus Shaves
    Registered Users Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Jesus Shaves


    Feckin' Culchies!


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    #53
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,408 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    ArmaniJeanss wrote: »
    Yes illegal arrest if theres no hat on.

    Legally if you knock a gardas hat off whilst he's arresting you then the arrest is cancelled. If the garda attempts to continue with the arrest then you can actually make a citizens arrest on him for impersonating a garda. Fact.

    Give over. That would just lead to master criminals being reduced to cap tippers.


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    #54
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Fake.

    A viral vid for ♫ Autoglass repair.... Autoglass replace ♫


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    #55
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,419 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    inforfun wrote: »
    Ah well, at least he can now have the window fixed.

    I'm sure he will try claim damages from the state. This is an every day occurrence at shell, they must need some publicity now, maybe people are forgetting about it. just a gentle reminder.
    Nothing provokes a reaction like good old garda headlines.


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    #56
    Reamer Fanny
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭Reamer Fanny


    Nothing wrong here, the driver was noncompliant and confrontational leading the Gardai to believe he had something to hide


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    #57
    davetherave
    Registered Users Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭davetherave


    Garda: Can you lower your window please?
    Guy: No.

    Garda: Can you open your window. *Something*. I want to see your driver's license.
    Guy: I'm not opening it.


    Garda: Open the window.
    Guy: Look calm down, the window doesn't open.
    Garda: Open the door.
    Guy keeps ****ting on about the broken window motor.

    Garda: I made a legal requirement of you to produce your driving license. You didn't give it to me.
    Guy: I was going to, I couldn't even hear you. I told you the motor wasn't working.
    Garda: Why didn't you open the door.
    Guy: *Doesn't answer the question*


    The fact that the Female Garda tells him to open the door, and then asks why he didn't open the door would suggest that he is allowed to open the door.

    As for the pop-up "This officer has to beat an extendable baton into the ground one assumes because of the force used to strike the car and threaten the driver."

    Ummmmm.....that is how they work.
    When you swing it open, centrifugal force locks it open, and you tap it off of a hard surface to release it. It has fcuk all to do it how hard he hit the window.


    Guy comes across as an pillock of the upmost order.

    What if there had been a serial rapist or a murder on the loose and that was a garda checkpoint. They were just there checking vehicles and asking drivers a few questions. Up drives this guy who refuses to roll down his window or open his door. Would that not make them suspicious?


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    #58
    crazyderk
    Registered Users Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭crazyderk


    its also possible that the Garda have dealt with him before and know he's a trouble maker, the good people of boards are right the video is edited in a very fine way!


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    #59
    Daithi 1
    Registered Users Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Daithi 1


    elviscostello wrote: »
    Don't have audio here, but from what I can gather, the driver was being completely uncooperative? They probably thought he/she had something to hide.

    Dont have audio ?

    Yet you are in a position to make that assumption ? ****s sake

    Thats one of the dumbest comments I have seen on this forum.


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    #60
    hardCopy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    The guy was clearly directed to pull in and was blocking oncoming traffic. Idiot.

    As for the note about the Garda using the ground to fold up her baton, that's how you're supposed to close them, they lock in place when extended.


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    #61
    Mardy Bum
    Registered Users Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Mardy Bum


    He is clearly looking for some sort of provocation. He got it too. Good enough for him.


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