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Eircom eFibre VDSL/FTTC rollout – plans to reach 1.6m premises by mid 2016

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    #1022
    arctan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 354 ✭✭arctan


    red_bairn wrote: »
    We've an old white cabinet at top of the road connected to a green box.

    in some of the FTTH set ups, yes a white cab has been used, this is where the ODF cross connect was, however, it could still be a FTTC setp

    To_be_confirmed wrote: »
    This extension section that I've seen on a few cabs, are they to house any of the FTTC equipment or just more space for the cables connecting to a FTTC cabinet beside it?

    the cab pictured is not populated much at all (I think its a 100 pair feeding the cab)

    more densely populated cabs can have up to 600 pairs feeding it, then over 800 leaving it .... this would take up the space very fast, so the section attached above houses the DSLAM cross connects (the blocks that are on the right in the pictures posted)


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    #1023
    Braytek
    Registered Users Posts: 45 ✭Braytek


    I can currently get max 4mb. I am a few km from the exchange but have a question. If a Cab is put between the exchange and me ( but still 1km from me ) would i be able to benefit from it. Even if it is about an extra mb or two

    Thanks


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    #1024
    arctan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 354 ✭✭arctan


    yes


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    #1025
    dubmick
    Registered Users Posts: 3,916 ✭✭✭dubmick


    still no word on prices / launch? I turned down Sky unlimited broadband for 7.50 a month thinking I would be getting fibre by Easter. Beginning to think it was a mistake.


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    #1026
    arctan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 354 ✭✭arctan


    last I heard, phase 1/phase 2 was still in line to be launched April-ish.... but there is still a lot of work to be done in some areas so not sure if they'll go ahead with what they have or wait until they are done 100% in the areas


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    #1027
    irishgeo
    Registered Users Posts: 9,423 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    arctan wrote: »
    last I heard, phase 1/phase 2 was still in line to be launched April-ish.... but there is still a lot of work to be done in some areas so not sure if they'll go ahead with what they have or wait until they are done 100% in the areas

    can they afford to wait is the question?


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    #1028
    GIMickey
    Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭GIMickey


    arctan wrote: »
    last I heard, phase 1/phase 2 was still in line to be launched April-ish.... but there is still a lot of work to be done in some areas so not sure if they'll go ahead with what they have or wait until they are done 100% in the areas


    I was reading a post yesterday, saying that they will be puttin the fibre on trial in the first 10 location complete sometime in January??

    Anybody else see this


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    #1029
    GIMickey
    Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭GIMickey


    GIMickey wrote: »


    I was reading a post yesterday, saying that they will be puttin the fibre on trial in the first 10 location complete sometime in January??

    Anybody else see this

    Link
    http://www.eircomwholesale.ie/News/NGA_Phase_5/


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    #1030
    JDxtra
    Registered Users Posts: 5,882 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    Eircom are very busy in my area this week (Leixlip). They've got 4 or 5 vans on the road and are working at all the main ducts.

    A few weeks ago there were non-Eircom contractors laying cable on their behalf along the main road.


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    #1031
    Praetorian
    Registered Users Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭Praetorian


    arctan wrote: »
    last I heard, phase 1/phase 2 was still in line to be launched April-ish.... but there is still a lot of work to be done in some areas so not sure if they'll go ahead with what they have or wait until they are done 100% in the areas

    I've heard some Eircom staff say 4-5 months to live. Also, on their own forums one of their own staff mentioned 4-5 months from yesterday.


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    #1032
    arctan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 354 ✭✭arctan


    so circa end of April - June ?

    BT are already selling unbundled fibre products in some areas so they'll be under pressure to go live not from their own point of view


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    #1033
    Praetorian
    Registered Users Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭Praetorian


    arctan wrote: »
    so circa end of April - June ?

    BT are already selling unbundled fibre products in some areas so they'll be under pressure to go live not from their own point of view

    I agree, but sure UPC have been the far bigger threat for ages, and everyday people are switching to UPC. The quicker they get up and running the better.


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    #1034
    Solair
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    I heard something about a BT Ireland trial of their own VDSL2 / FTTC product in Dun Laoghaire, but I think it was just a test run.

    http://www.siliconrepublic.com/comms/item/28793-bt-to-trial-80mbps-fibre-br

    BT Ireland's a threat, but eircom still makes money out of the access network for all of BT Ireland's products using it, even if they're unbundled, it still charges them for the physical line going into your house and for space in the exchange / cabinets.

    However, if someone switches to UPC, they're 100% gone from eircom's revenue stream. It's a totally independent network which has no reason to use any eircom access / core networks at all. They've their own fibre-coax hybrid local networks and their own core network and international connectivity.

    UPC has fibre-to-curb already in place and running in pretty much all of our major and even some not so major urban areas. It's about 5 or 6 years ahead of eircom in terms of fibre access networks and they have technology deployed that already offers speeds that are much faster than eircom's VDSL2 product can!

    Not only that, but they are genuinely gobbling up Eircom customers because they've generally got a vastly superior and often cheaper broadband product.

    They're eircom's only full competitor of any scale in the residential sector.


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    #1035
    Cheerful Spring
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    irishgeo wrote: »
    can they afford to wait is the question?

    Eircoms future is depend on Fibre broadband. There looking at small towns in the coming years to have fibre, and their is the possibility of Eircom looking at certain rural places to have it too?

    Sky seems to be concentrating on DSL at the moment. Objective i guess is to add customers and take customers from Eircom.

    But you have to be with Sky to get those great deals at the momemt. When Sky officially does launch * (what will their prices be?) Will the deals be just as good for non sky customers?

    If Eircom doesn't move from DSL to Fibre. Sky will mostly likely add new customers, people who were previously with their rival Eircom. The only safe bet for Eircom, is to increase speeds for customers, so they will not go to Sky from them.

    If Sky invests in their own laying of Fibre than Eircom is really then in serious trouble.


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    #1036
    arctan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 354 ✭✭arctan


    Solair wrote: »
    I heard something about a BT Ireland trial of their own VDSL2 / FTTC product in Dun Laoghaire, but I think it was just a test run.

    http://www.siliconrepublic.com/comms/item/28793-bt-to-trial-80mbps-fibre-br

    BT Ireland's a threat, but eircom still makes money out of the access network for all of BT Ireland's products using it, even if they're unbundled, it still charges them for the physical line going into your house and for space in the exchange / cabinets.

    However, if someone switches to UPC, they're 100% gone from eircom's revenue stream. It's a totally independent network which has no reason to use any eircom access / core networks at all. They've their own fibre-coax hybrid local networks and their own core network and international connectivity.

    UPC has fibre-to-curb already in place and running in pretty much all of our major and even some not so major urban areas. It's about 5 or 6 years ahead of eircom in terms of fibre access networks and they have technology deployed that already offers speeds that are much faster than eircom's VDSL2 product can!

    Not only that, but they are genuinely gobbling up Eircom customers because they've generally got a vastly superior and often cheaper broadband product.

    They're eircom's only full competitor of any scale in the residential sector.

    this is Eircom's FTTC project, they'll be the first company in with local loop unbundling on it ... Dun Laoghaire isn't live yet

    its what I was saying, they're not only under pressure from the company, but with BT promised dates and selling products already, any major backlogs and Comreg will be involved, so it'll have to be within the timeframe they are saying


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    #1037
    swoofer
    Registered Users Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭swoofer


    we can only wait and hope, ennis is showing dec 2012 but we are now in 2013 and still not complete. We can only hope it happens eventually but there is a good chance it will be too pricey anyway. I cant see eircom charging less for a better product.


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    #1038
    Solair
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    GBCULLEN wrote: »
    we can only wait and hope, ennis is showing dec 2012 but we are now in 2013 and still not complete. We can only hope it happens eventually but there is a good chance it will be too pricey anyway. I cant see eircom charging less for a better product.

    It's not a better product than UPC, which is what will be dictating their pricing.

    UPC can easily offer 150mbit/s and beyond, eircom's product will max out at about 70 to 80mbit/s and that's only if you're very close to the cabinet.

    So, it's still a technically inferior product to DOCSIS 3.0 & fibre cabinets and UPC's already very competitively priced and has widespread service already in place.

    If eircom charge a fortune for VDSL, they simply won't get any returning UPC customers and will continue bleeding urban customers to the cable company.


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    #1039
    swoofer
    Registered Users Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭swoofer


    thats what i mean, no upc BB in ennis


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    #1040
    Solair
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    GBCULLEN wrote: »
    thats what i mean, no upc BB in ennis

    They won't really be able to have different prices in different regions though (I assume)

    So, whatever they're offering will have to be competitive with UPC even if there's no local UPC operation.


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    #1041
    irishgeo
    Registered Users Posts: 9,423 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    GIMickey wrote: »
    I was reading a post yesterday, saying that they will be puttin the fibre on trial in the first 10 location complete sometime in January??

    Anybody else see this

    ahh rats , castlebar was phase 2, i wish they stick up a line checker so we could check if our lines were capable of getting it.


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    #1042
    leigh852
    Registered Users Posts: 28 ✭leigh852


    irishgeo wrote: »
    ahh rats , castlebar was phase 2, i wish they stick up a line checker so we could check if our lines were capable of getting it.

    Word on the street is that its April before us in Castlebar go live with fiber. Are you far from a cabinet? I'm luckily only about 100m from one!


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    #1043
    chriss745
    Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭chriss745


    leigh852 wrote: »

    Word on the street is that its April before us in Castlebar go live with fiber. Are you far from a cabinet? I'm luckily only about 100m from one!

    I am from one smaller in 200m and one from 400m, but I am afraid I am connected to the latter (due to street layout), although I can see Eircom labels on the street to both directions from my house. Do you know if I am connected to the cab at 400 can I ask to connect me to the closer cab when I go with FTTC?


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    #1044
    MMAGirl
    Registered Users Posts: 484 ✭✭MMAGirl


    They are connecting us up to Eircom fibre at the start of Feb.

    Our landline BB was with Vodafone. It got really bad in October. Moved to Eircom and it got better but still was useless. So they have agreed that since the line is so bad we will be connected to fibre in Feb.
    Cant wait. In Swords exchange.


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    #1045
    bealtine
    Registered Users Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭bealtine


    Solair wrote: »
    They won't really be able to have different prices in different regions though (I assume)


    That's not what Comreg think...see their LEA proposals


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    #1046
    Wambo
    Registered Users Posts: 46 ✭Wambo


    MMAGirl wrote: »
    They are connecting us up to Eircom fibre at the start of Feb.

    Our landline BB was with Vodafone. It got really bad in October. Moved to Eircom and it got better but still was useless. So they have agreed that since the line is so bad we will be connected to fibre in Feb.
    Cant wait. In Swords exchange.
    Did they tell you the download speeds you'll be getting or anything?


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    #1047
    JDxtra
    Registered Users Posts: 5,882 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    Eircom contractors working again on a Sunday in Leixlip. They really are in a hurry to finish what they're doing!


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    #1048
    irishgeo
    Registered Users Posts: 9,423 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    leigh852 wrote: »

    Word on the street is that its April before us in Castlebar go live with fiber. Are you far from a cabinet? I'm luckily only about 100m from one!
    Think I am about 400m from one. I am out the WestPort rd so hopefully they ran it out to my estate


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    #1049
    Braytek
    Registered Users Posts: 45 ✭Braytek


    Braytek wrote: »
    I can currently get max 4mb. I am a few km from the exchange but have a question. If a Cab is put between the exchange and me ( but still 1km from me ) would i be able to benefit from it. Even if it is about an extra mb or two

    Thanks

    I got a reply saying yes but wonder if i can get another opinion, would I see an increase in speed when they put a cab between me and exchange ( even if its 1km away ). The exchange is an ADSL2+ one up to 24mb, im very far but can get 4mb max. I hope this increases when they put cabs between me and exchange


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    #1050
    red_bairn
    Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭red_bairn


    Braytek wrote: »
    I got a reply saying yes but wonder if i can get another opinion, would I see an increase in speed when they put a cab between me and exchange ( even if its 1km away ). The exchange is an ADSL2+ one up to 24mb, im very far but can get 4mb max. I hope this increases when they put cabs between me and exchange

    Did they say they'd put in a cabinet between the exchange and your home?

    I'm about 650 - 700m from the cabinet and we get 6 of 8MB (75%). Here is a guide that you could roughly go by:

    http://www.linebroker.co.uk/fttc-tech.php


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    #1051
    lucernarian
    Registered Users Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    Braytek wrote: »
    I got a reply saying yes but wonder if i can get another opinion, would I see an increase in speed when they put a cab between me and exchange ( even if its 1km away ). The exchange is an ADSL2+ one up to 24mb, im very far but can get 4mb max. I hope this increases when they put cabs between me and exchange
    I've been wondering this too. My family's DSL connection was limited to 1 mb by eircom even though it could do more. It took moving to an LLU provider and a few emails before I got the 3 mbps the line could handle. It's been working perfectly since, even when I set the modem to use ADSL only. No doubt a FTTC cabinet will be installed nearer, only to be told the same crap we were told for years:rolleyes:


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