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This type of Installer will destroy the Aerial business

St Senan · 2012-02-01 17:38:45

I priced this 2 storey house for chimney install and supply a Saorview Approved receiver along with a Wideband or Grid Aerial, a lashing kit and 6-8ft pole and cradle. The customer contacted me a few days later to say that she had got a lot better price from another guy €100 cheaper (whom she wouldn't name) She made out I…

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#152 18-02-2012 2:01pm
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Is there any other location available on the property for that dish where the signal isn't actually blocked by a tree?

Nothing wrong with using a bit of ingenuity as long as the dish is mounted on a part of the tree that doesn't move in the wind.

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#153 18-02-2012 5:46pm
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Look at the cables though & I dread to think how they're routed to the house.

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#154 18-02-2012 6:16pm
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It's a balls of a job, my post was tongue-in-cheek, see how it echoes this entry in the ATV Cowboys' Locker.

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#155 18-02-2012 6:50pm
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spotted in Wicklow,
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#156 18-02-2012 7:40pm
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Spotted this in Gorey a while back

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#157 18-02-2012 7:45pm
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scaller wrote: »

Spotted this in Gorey a while back

where H becomes V and V becomes H

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#158 18-02-2012 8:42pm
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scaller wrote: »

Spotted this in Gorey a while back

Think I saw that myself.Why oh why do installers have the bar facing upwards? It lets rain in to corrode the inside plus if they can't be bothered to tighten everything properly it ends up like what's in Scallers pics.At least it wasn't screwed into the fascia:pac:

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#159 19-02-2012 1:04am
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zerks wrote: »

Think I saw that myself.Why oh why do installers have the bar facing upwards? It lets rain in to corrode the inside plus if they can't be bothered to tighten everything properly it ends up like what's in Scallers pics.At least it wasn't screwed into the fascia:pac:

its an installer who has been 'teached' by an installer who 'learn't' it himself, and the plague spreads.

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#160 19-02-2012 10:47am
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Cesium Clock wrote: »

spotted in Wicklow,
tree.jpg

You have to hand it to this guy, necessity is the mother of all invention.

Good diy, he'll be up and down that tree on a regular basis thou.

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#161 19-02-2012 12:09pm
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He needs stay wires.

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#162 20-02-2012 9:40pm
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watty wrote: »

He needs stay wires.

Or a chainsaw.

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#163 27-02-2012 9:45pm
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scaller wrote: »

Spotted this in Gorey a while back

I showed this to the father one day and he got a right laugh out of it. its sorted now.

It cant beat the sky dish that was mounted on an older analog dish down past tescos! Have you still got that photo scaller?

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#164 27-02-2012 10:06pm
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aerial man wrote: »

I showed this to the father one day and he got a right laugh out of it. its sorted now.

It cant beat the sky dish that was mounted on an older analog dish down past tescos! Have you still got that photo scaller?

Yep it's here on this post http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=51100871&postcount=1

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#165 22-03-2012 10:17pm
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Last year I priced these 3 Jobs. I was in that Park today and as you all can see the people got the Jobs done CHEAPER :eek::eek::eek::eek:

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#166 22-03-2012 10:46pm
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I've also been making a collection.

Here are some I collected in the last month. All by the same cheap bastard (who has a TV shop on the main street in a nearby town). I wouldn't mind his prices are ridiculously expensive, the least he could do is use proper f joiners and splitters. I showed the pics to the customers involved and they all insisted he was the only one ever did their TV work and the only one ever in the attics of these houses, all 3 were pensioners and 2 of the houses were bungalows in elderly housing schemes.

Sorry about the lighting, its a phone camera with no flash taking pics under head torch light.

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#167 22-03-2012 10:47pm
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How can anyone let cowboys drill/screw into there mobile home/caravan.
I would love to see the green mould inside after a few months.

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#168 22-03-2012 11:12pm
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Digitaltv wrote: »

How can anyone let cowboys drill/screw into there mobile home/caravan.
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Ok lets not insult Cowboys

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#169 23-03-2012 12:09am
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Does anyone expect things to get any better? Its six months to switch over and there hasn't even been a decent advertising campaign yet and there is no real value put on installers by our national broadcaster. Saorview recognise the trade bodies but for some strange reason the installers who have shown themselves to be honest and professional can't be approved to sell the saorview boxes they have to provide as part of their buisness. The black market work in aerial installations is huge yet every registered installer I know is seeing very little work. Can someone tell me what advantage there is to being a member of any of the three trade bodies when the cowboy installers are getting away with poor workmanship?

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#170 23-03-2012 9:25am
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Well you cannot really force customers to go with any particular installer however if you are a member of a trade body so are at least showing a commitment to uphold a certain level of quality so customers can make an informed choice .

Its just unfortunate that many people go with the cheapest initial price with no regard to workmanship which usually ends up costing much more in the long term when the job has to be put right.

What you have to do is demonstrate the benefits of going with an installer that has a solid reputation.

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#171 23-03-2012 11:11pm
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scaller wrote: »

Last year I priced these 3 Jobs. I was in that Park today and as you all can see the people got the Jobs done CHEAPER :eek::eek::eek::eek:

Jesus Christ! :eek:

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#172 07-04-2012 10:40am
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Showing total disregard for health & safety, this guy even forgot to bring the aerial with him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9EICyaEJq0&list=UUCtG6glU2Mzlcyit6j61gIg&index=1&feature=plcp :eek:

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#173 07-04-2012 11:35am
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I just spotted this last week.

Sorry for quality of the picture it was taken 50kmh.

Anyhow the group B is under the dish and pointing directly into the roof.:eek::eek:

What sort of installer would put this over some ones front door. :eek::eek:

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#174 07-04-2012 8:09pm
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scaller wrote: »

I just spotted this last week.

Sorry for quality of the picture it was taken 50kmh.

Anyhow the group B is under the dish and pointing directly into the roof.:eek::eek:

What sort of installer would put this over some ones front door. :eek::eek:

That is one monumental f***-up of an install! That also looks like one of those rather light and bendy/flimsy 1.5" cranked mast welded to one section of a T&K. If it is, there isn't a hope it'll last long. Sneezing near it would probably sway it, causing breakup on satellite!

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#175 09-04-2012 5:52pm
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The Guy who put this on that persons chimney can not call himself an Aerial rigger or Installer. This has all been predicted since before last May and its only going to get worse before ASO. Its guys like this that is going to ruin this business.

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#176 09-04-2012 10:22pm
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scaller wrote: »

The Guy who put this on that persons chimney can not call himself an Aerial rigger or Installer. This has all been predicted since before last May and its only going to get worse before ASO. Its guys like this that is going to ruin this business.

I dont mean to be smart but i cant see the issue with the last photo if the signal is up to spec then what is the problem? No need to install 10ft pole if not needed i would reckon?

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#177 09-04-2012 10:31pm
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s_gr wrote: »

I dont mean to be smart but i cant see the issue with the last photo if the signal is up to spec then what is the problem? No need to install 10ft pole if not needed i would reckon?

It looks like its been drilled on to the chimney instead of a lashing kit (which the dish seems to have) and it should be facing downwards , if the top of the bracket gets water ingress it will eventually rust and break at the elbow. Its also more stable when mounted facing down.

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#178 09-04-2012 10:38pm
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Tony wrote: »

It looks like its been drilled on to the chimney instead of a lashing kit (which the dish seems to have) and it should be facing downwards , if the top of the bracket gets water ingress it will eventually rust and break at the elbow. Its also more stable when mounted facing down.

Well the same could be said for loads dishes fitted to date by both sky and independents judging by whats on view everyday.

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#179 09-04-2012 10:41pm
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The guy who installed that probably made a big deal out of putting that up as Tony has said he drilled four 10 or 12 mm holes into the face of the chimney he has the used a Dish mounting bracket upside down to mount the aerial on
(WATER and RUST) http://images.esellerpro.com/2237/I/300/8/SK47-4.jpg Anyhow it would have made more sense to mount that in the attic less than 2 feet below it.

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#180 09-04-2012 11:13pm
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s_gr wrote: »

Well the same could be said for loads dishes fitted to date by both sky and independents judging by whats on view everyday.

Indeed yes

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#181 09-04-2012 11:33pm
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scaller wrote: »

The guy who installed that probably made a big deal out of putting that up

Have you anything to justify that comment?

scaller wrote: »

as Tony has said he drilled four 10 or 12 mm holes into the face of the chimney

Did he damage the flue, or otherwise impact the structure of the chimney?

scaller wrote: »

he has the used a Dish mounting bracket

So? It's a nice neat solution.

scaller wrote: »

...Dish mounting bracket upside down to mount the aerial on

Common practice, unfortunately.

scaller wrote: »

Anyhow it would have made more sense to mount that in the attic less than 2 feet below it.

Why?
(If this is to avoid drilling holes for coax cable through external walls, then I agree 100%. However this approach does increase installation costs and some installers are unwilling/unable to route cables internally.)

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