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Willfarman

Good loser wrote: »

I don't recognise that atall. I think he has been way better than most.

His policies have been measured and prudent.

I don't believe any M of Ag has any responsibility for the factory price of cattle or sheep or the market price for grain or feeds. Aren't you always talking about the best 'value' in feeds? Same difference.

The price has climbed significantly since I sold in November. That's market forces plain and simple.

Besides all year it was UK out of step with EU; we were in or around EU averages. When you export 90% of a commodity you are a price taker.

Mind you when Larry was in his prime (with CJH) that's when serious money was being made in beef. The halcyon days!

The minister for farming. We have around 140 000 irish family farms.

This is their minister. No he can't set the price of beef but he should be able to stop larry goodman and co from doing so too. And our beef was destined for the uk market so in a competitive processing industry beef farmers would have got a fair margin of it. This is where he failed dismally.

10 months ago a 600kg 24 month old friesian bull was worth €840. Today the Same bull is worth €1170 to these same processers. The retail value of the product hasn't changed. This tells me a lot about market forces.

The calves are on the lorries again, the suckler cows are heading for the slaughter house, the youth of rural Ireland are emigrating... But our beef barons are still topping rich lists and their are plenty of jobs for Eastern europeans and South Americans in the boning halls.

just do it

Remind me, what's the name of this thread again?!

huey1975

Base price wrote: »

From memory the same factories that you defend so rigorously were the ones crying out that too many veal calves were been exported and therefore putting Irish jobs at risk

I am not defending the factories, I am defending a free market. Some of the posters on here won't be happy until we are guaranteed a price for beef , which will lead to an increase in production and flood the market.

tanko

huey1975 wrote: »

I am not defending the factories, I am defending a free market. Some of the posters on here won't be happy until we are guaranteed a price for beef , which will lead to an increase in production and flood the market.

According to the comic this week farmers in the north have to pay a "penalty" of €103 on cattle born in the south and slaughtered in the north. Tesco like to call them "nomad cattle".

Is this the "free market" you speak about?

simx

3.45 O&P cows for Monday in Slaney and from what I hear theres a rise on the way for blks and heifers too, hope it's true

primary 2

simx wrote: »

3.45 O&P cows for Monday in Slaney and from what I hear theres a rise on the way for blks and heifers too, hope it's true

the bullocks were making 4 10 this week,did you hear what they are ment to go up?have some bullocks to go myself but waiting to see will things rise more,what would you of getting for those cows this week?

simx

primary 2 wrote: »

the bullocks were making 4 10 this week,did you hear what they are ment to go up?have some bullocks to go myself but waiting to see will things rise more,what would you of getting for those cows this week?

Heard 10c but time will tell, maybe 3.40 this week/last week. Sent a load before Xmas and getting 3.35

primary 2

simx wrote: »

Heard 10c but time will tell, maybe 3.40 this week/last week. Sent a load before Xmas and getting 3.35

things are improving slowly so,when do you think prices are going to peak?and how do you find slaney?

simx

primary 2 wrote: »

things are improving slowly so,when do you think prices are going to peak?and how do you find slaney?

Oh I couldn't tell ya, wouldn't say there will be any more of a rise for another while yet, dawn in waterford still have no prob filling kill every week still, ah generally wouldn't find them too bad, had a falling out with them before over a couple of cows on load not being in herd 70 days and they docked me 30c/kg so didn't kill much with them for a good while

primary 2

simx wrote: »

Oh I couldn't tell ya, wouldn't say there will be any more of a rise for another while yet, dawn in waterford still have no prob filling kill every week still, ah generally wouldn't find them too bad, had a falling out with them before over a couple of cows on load not being in herd 70 days and they docked me 30c/kg so didn't kill much with them for a good while

send steers there my self find them ok,i was hoping to hold on for another week or two to see would the base price rise to 4 20

tanko

simx wrote: »

Oh I couldn't tell ya, wouldn't say there will be any more of a rise for another while yet, dawn in waterford still have no prob filling kill every week still, ah generally wouldn't find them too bad, had a falling out with them before over a couple of cows on load not being in herd 70 days and they docked me 30c/kg so didn't kill much with them for a good while

Do you get 30c/kg extra for cows you've had for 70 days or more? I thought it was 10c extra for QA cows.

simx

tanko wrote: »

Do you get 30c/kg extra for cows you've had for 70 days or more? I thought it was 10c extra for QA cows.

No I got 30c docked off the base price I got, no bonus in Slaney or Kildare anyway, think there's a bonus in dawn so long as they grade better than a p+3 something like 3c, so I'm told anyway

Willfarman

simx wrote: »

No I got 30c docked off the base price I got, no bonus in Slaney or Kildare anyway, think there's a bonus in dawn so long as they grade better than a p+3 something like 3c, so I'm told anyway

Do you ever try ballon meats?

simx

Willfarman wrote: »

Do you ever try ballon meats?

Never rang them, killed most in Kildare this year and happy enough with them tbh, Dunbia are killing in ballon now, is be at nothing ringing me.g for a price though as we'd be going against each other at the ringside at times

Willfarman

simx wrote: »

Never rang them, killed most in Kildare this year and happy enough with them tbh, Dunbia are killing in ballon now, is be at nothing ringing me.g for a price though as we'd be going against each other at the ringside at times

Ah he wouldn't hold that against ya! I doubt your inclined to set the trade on fire

simx

Willfarman wrote: »

Ah he wouldn't hold that against ya! I doubt your inclined to set the trade on fire

I heard him quoting lads bad that went on cows he was on before, at times there would be certain lads I wouldn't spare and visa versa, a lot of it going on in last few weeks,Kk was a waste of time Thursday, it was like there was never going to be another cow the things that were happening, I'd say cows were up 50/60e in a lot of cases on the week previous, polling is a dangerous yoke to be at and wouldn't be a fan of it but If a lad Is purposely polling you it's hard to stand and watch him buy a cheap beast

cute geoge

simx wrote: »

3.45 O&P cows for Monday in Slaney and from what I hear theres a rise on the way for blks and heifers too, hope it's true

Man in the know told me that cows should be 3.60 for o's before march is out

simx

cute geoge wrote: »

Man in the know told me that cows should be 3.60 for o's before march is out

Usually a rise around paddys day

primary 2

was talking to an agent this morning best he said he could do was 4 00 base for overage bullocks maybe he might be able to get 4 05 if pushed,i thought it was a bit low,not going to sell yet

Hershall

primary 2 wrote: »

was talking to an agent this morning best he said he could do was 4 00 base for overage bullocks maybe he might be able to get 4 05 if pushed,i thought it was a bit low,not going to sell yet

Have tried a few of them today 4.05 base for over and underage bks on grid seems to be the general quote

Cavanjack

primary 2 wrote: »

was talking to an agent this morning best he said he could do was 4 00 base for overage bullocks maybe he might be able to get 4 05 if pushed,i thought it was a bit low,not going to sell yet

Getting €4.10 for overage bullocks in clonee next week.

primary 2

Hershall wrote: »

Have tried a few of them today 4.05 base for over and underage bks on grid seems to be the general quote

is that a mixture of both for that price or can 4 05 be got for a load of overage?are you going to chance some at that price? the agent was very keen to secure stock though and said we will keep in touch over the next few days

primary 2

Cavanjack wrote: »

Getting €4.10 for overage bullocks in clonee next week.

had you a job to get that price or was it got easly enough?are you going to sell at the 4 10 or do you think there is more to be got?

Cavanjack

primary 2 wrote: »

had you a job to get that price or was it got easly enough?are you going to sell at the 4 10 or do you think there is more to be got?

No that was quoted price. Will let them go at that. They are fat and I need the shed space. Have more to go in a month so hoping it'll continue to rise.

Hershall

primary 2 wrote: »

is that a mixture of both for that price or can 4 05 be got for a load of overage?are you going to chance some at that price? the agent was very keen to secure stock though and said we will keep in touch over the next few days

Doesn't matter same price for both. I'm going shortly just waiting for best price.

primary 2

Hershall wrote: »

Doesn't matter same price for both. I'm going shortly just waiting for best price.

i was thinking that, he is giving 4 10 for underage,i will just have to wait and see

primary 2

any news on prices for the week ahead?

Robson99

primary 2 wrote: »

any news on prices for the week ahead?

Talk of another 5cent increase. Factories stocking up on beef I'd say as there will probably be a shortage in a few months.

primary 2

Robson99 wrote: »

Talk of another 5cent increase. Factories stocking up on beef I'd say as there will probably be a shortage in a few months.

did you get any quotes yourself yet?

Robson99

Not till morning